Amash is saying Trump has engaged in an impeachable offense

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Oh man, is this a terrible move from Amash. Even if he was right, it's just bad strategy. Trump is exceedingly popular with the GOP, which includes Amash's constituents. What is he trying to accomplish? The Dems will use this as a propaganda victory, saying that if a conservative like Amash can realize "the truth", other Republicans have no excuse not to. And any cachet he gets with the Democrats will be immediately forgotten when he once again disagrees with them.

[kahless]

Lets see the redacted portions that Amash is basing it on. How are we to judge otherwise.

[PAF]

That doesn't disprove what Cleaner said.

And I'm still waiting for you to defend Amash's lie.

I am defending Amash’s 94% Freedom Index Record, one of which trump could never reach with a ten yard pole.

BTW, open borders yes, but ask Justin if he would advocate incentive/welfare payments, such that trumps long term goal will provide even more, which you are too blind to see, or admit. I’ve been around the block a few hundred times and know how such things work.

[ATruepatriot]

What exactly is the case for obstruction? Was it that Trump discussed keeping or firing Mueller with his staff? What difference does that make? Doesn't Trump have the authority to fire him? Do they want to say that every question, statement, or console with staff is obstruction? Would not any person running anything discuss options with staff and brainstorm ideas?

You know the answer to that. To the leftist crybaby children, him just being President is now obstruction of justice.

[Stratovarious]

Amash was the Golden Boy here if I remember correctly, I was not buying it.

...and Jeff Flake certainly lived up to his name.

Everyone today seems to be levying the most impressive and outlandish claims about
anything , just to get 15 minutes of coverage, they don't give a fk about America
and the 'Republic' .

[Swordsmyth]

I am defending Amash’s 94% Freedom Index Record, one of which trump could never reach with a ten yard pole.

Yes, you are trying to distract everyone from his lie which is the subject of this thread but I am not going to let you.

BTW, open borders yes, but ask Justin if he would advocate incentive/welfare payments, such that trumps long term goal will provide even more, which you are too blind to see, or admit. I’ve been around the block a few hundred times and know how such things work.

Trump is reducing welfare to citizens and invaders and our economy alone is sufficient incentive to keep the invaders coming here and turning us into a communist country.

[TheCount]

The knives come out for anyone who is insufficiently loyal to the Orange One.

[ATruepatriot]

The knives come out for anyone who is insufficiently loyal to the Orange One.

And the knives come out for anyone who is not a communist.

[PAF]

Amash was the Golden Boy here if I remember correctly, I was not buying it.

...and Jeff Flake certainly lived up to his name.

Everyone today seems to be levying the most impressive and outlandish claims about
anything , just to get 15 minutes of coverage, they don't give a fk about America
and the 'Republic' .

Anybody who compares Justin Amash to jeff flake is a total FLAKE. Certainly while Justin’s Record remains solid.

Memo... RPF, the Shills have arrived.

[oyarde]

Oh man, is this a terrible move from Amash. Even if he was right, it's just bad strategy. Trump is exceedingly popular with the GOP, which includes Amash's constituents. What is he trying to accomplish? The Dems will use this as a propaganda victory, saying that if a conservative like Amash can realize "the truth", other Republicans have no excuse not to. And any cachet he gets with the Democrats will be immediately forgotten when he once again disagrees with them.

Thats how I see it . Some things you just keep to yourself .

[juleswin]

The knives come out for anyone who is insufficiently loyal to the Orange One.

Don't you find it a bit odd for someone who is supposedly a champion of limited govt to be a stickler for govt rules and regulations? A normal person who would refuse to punish a normal citizen for obstruction of justic for a crime he hasn't been found guilty of.

I hate Trump as a person and politician and even I would not vote to impeach him.

[Swordsmyth]

Amash refused to endorse impeachment of former President Barack Hussein Obama while he was in office, but now publicly supports the impeachment of President Trump despite the fact that the Mueller investigation cleared him of colluding with Russia.
Sen. Rand Paul’s chief strategist Doug Stafford liked the following tweet critical of Amash’s rant, suggesting that Paul and his team understand that the Congressman from Grand Rapids has lost his way:

https://twitter.com/davidharsanyi/st...51375523905536

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/follow...-donald-trump/

[oyarde]

Don't you find it a bit odd for someone who is supposedly a champion of limited govt to be a stickler for govt rules and regulations? A normal person who would refuse to punish a normal citizen for obstruction of justic for a crime he hasn't been found guilty of.

I hate Trump as a person and politician and even I would not vote to impeach him.

It is odd , that is the first clue something else is up.

[juleswin]

Anybody who compares Justin Amash to jeff flake is a total FLAKE. Certainly while Justin’s Record remains solid.

Memo... RPF, the Shills have arrived.

This ^^^. Justin Amash has a weird fetish for the rule of law. The kind of man who would have no problem killing innocent people just as long as we go through the correct process. He is good on so many issues but this just happen to be his blind spot.

I hope this doesn't cost him his political career

[oyarde]

I am defending Amash’s 94% Freedom Index Record, one of which trump could never reach with a ten yard pole.

BTW, open borders yes, but ask Justin if he would advocate incentive/welfare payments, such that trumps long term goal will provide even more, which you are too blind to see, or admit. I’ve been around the block a few hundred times and know how such things work.

I only hope he has a lot of defenders in his district .

[Swordsmyth]

The knives come out for anyone who is insufficiently loyal to the Orange One.

The knives come out?

LOL


Amash is lying and he deserves to be called out for it.

Amash refused to endorse impeachment of former President Barack Hussein Obama while he was in office but now he jumps on the "obstruction of justice" lie.

[Swordsmyth]

Don't you find it a bit odd for someone who is supposedly a champion of limited govt to be a stickler for govt rules and regulations? A normal person who would refuse to punish a normal citizen for obstruction of justic for a crime he hasn't been found guilty of.

I hate Trump as a person and politician and even I would not vote to impeach him.

This ^^^. Justin Amash has a weird fetish for the rule of law. The kind of man who would have no problem killing innocent people just as long as we go through the correct process. He is good on so many issues but this just happen to be his blind spot.

I hope this doesn't cost him his political career

This is not the rule of law, there was no obstruction.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm sure he said the same about Obama

He did NOT, he opposed impeaching O'Bummer.

[TheCount]

Don't you find it a bit odd for someone who is supposedly a champion of limited govt to be a stickler for govt rules and regulations? A normal person who would refuse to punish a normal citizen for obstruction of justic for a crime he hasn't been found guilty of.

I hate Trump as a person and politician and even I would not vote to impeach him.

As Amash points out, no rules and regulations are required, only the constitution.

[TheCount]

The knives come out?

Yes, the majority of the active members of this forum will immediately turn on someone who is listed as a "defender of liberty" in order to protect someone whose actions and politics are both expressly against the goals of the forum.


Really says everything that needs to be said, doesn't it?

[Swordsmyth]

As Amash points out, no rules and regulations are required, only the constitution.

No collusion, No obstruction.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, the majority of the active members of this forum will immediately turn on someone who is listed as a "defender of liberty" in order to protect someone whose actions and politics are both expressly against the goals of the forum.


Really says everything that needs to be said, doesn't it?

Nonsense.

[juleswin]

It is odd , that is the first clue something else is up.

Attention seeking behaviour, listening to Judge Nap or what I suspect his is very strict adherence to the rule of law.

[EBounding]

Who here has read the Mueller report? I haven't.

[Anti Globalist]

Is Amash trying to lose his reelection? I'm sure his constituents don't like what hes doing.

[oyarde]

As Amash points out, no rules and regulations are required, only the constitution.

Well I will point out there is no member of congress who has not voted for bills that have dishonorable content so he pretty well lost any credibility there.I will be rooting for him , I cannot imagine he could be replaced by someone better but it sounds like he may be trying to replace himself .

[juleswin]

This is not the rule of law, there was no obstruction.

I think he believes that there was obstrution of justice. My take is that even if he is correct, I still think he should not be impeached if he not guilt of the underlying crime. Rule of law be damned.

[Swordsmyth]

I think he believes that there was obstrution of justice. My take is that even if he is correct, I still think he should not be impeached if he not guilt of the underlying crime. Rule of law be damned.

IF he really believes there was obstruction of justice it is only because he WANTS to believe it because of his TDS.

[oyarde]

Lets see the redacted portions that Amash is basing it on. How are we to judge otherwise.

I wont judge except that I do not think it overly bright for his future . But lets say there is some real evidence , you think the dems would not have leaked it ? My guess is there is none or everyone would know .

[ATruepatriot]

I wont judge except that I do not think it overly bright for his future . But lets say there is some real evidence , you think the dems would not have leaked it ? My guess is there is none or everyone would know .

The logical one in the room... Absolutely.