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    Thumbs up TRUMP LIED! - (top 10 lies) by Chuck Baldwin

    A truth bomb from Chuck Baldwin. Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin for president on the Constitution Party ticket, in 2008. Couldn't go for Barr, McCain and the like (Better than Obama?).
    Paul has endorsed Baldwin

    TRUMP LIED!


    It is undoubtedly true that the vast majority of politicians are liars. Some, however, are more prolific liars than others. And any honest, objective, even semi-intelligent person knows that Donald Trump takes the blue ribbon in the lying game. He lies so much, he can’t even play a game of golf without cheating.

    In a column dated August 10, 2017, I wrote a piece entitled The Truth About Donald Trump. In the column I documented the truth about Trump’s lifetime conduct. In short:

    *Donald Trump spent his entire adult life scamming people out of billions of dollars.

    Trump’s seven bankruptcies (which he brags about) cost investors, employees and consumers multiplied billions of dollars. Doug Heller, the executive director of Consumer Watchdog, said Trump is the "most egregious, almost comical example" of the disparity between what the average American faces when going through bankruptcy and the "ease with which the very rich can move in and out of bankruptcy."

    *Donald Trump spent his entire adult life as a perverse philanderer and miserable misogynist.

    I documented what I could on this subject in the column referenced above. The full account of Trump’s lifelong moral debauchery could not even be reported in polite company. In short, Trump is a sick moral reprobate of the lowest order.

    *Donald Trump spent his entire business life consorting with international crime syndicates and the Jewish mafia.

    In my column, I documented Trump’s crooked, illegal, unethical and immoral penchant for deal-making with some of the most unscrupulous, dishonest and evil mafia figures in the world (I even named a few of them). Donald Trump wouldn’t know what honesty and truth were if they came up and bit him on his dumpy derriere. (Read my column referenced above for documentation and details.)

    Remember, the focus of that 2017 column was on Donald Trump’s conduct over his entire lifespan right up to and including when he became President. But what about Trump’s track record since becoming President? With his first administration more than half finished, we now have that track record. Surprise! Surprise! Trump is the same kind of miserable, lying, pretending, duplicitous scoundrel he was before being elected.

    Here are a few examples of President Trump’s many lies. (“Thank you” to one of my faithful readers, JT, for helping me with this creepy compilation of Trump’s deceit and deception.)

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    https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Article...RUMP-LIED.aspx
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again



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    I like Chuck and I would vote for him again if he ran against Trump.


    Let's take a look at the charges:


    1. Trump promised to put Hillary Clinton in jail.

    On the campaign trail, Trump talked about putting Hillary in jail in just about every city in which he held a rally. But after becoming President, Trump has gushed all over Bill and Hillary, calling them “good friends” and saying they are “good people.” Of course, what he’s said since becoming President IS true. He and the Clintons are good friends. They have been good friends for almost a lifetime. The “good people” part, of course, is just another lousy lie.

    TRUMP LIED!
    It's not over yet, Trump needs to deliver on this but it's not over yet.




    2. Trump promised to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C.

    But after becoming President, Donald Trump’s administration is almost a carbon copy of G.W. Bush’s globalist insiders. Trump’s appointment of CFR and Bilderberg swamp creatures matches those of Bush or Obama. If he gets a second term, his appointment of globalists will surpass his predecessors. And his appointment of Zionists already exceeds those of Bush or Obama.
    TRUMP LIED!
    Just like #1, it's not over yet and Trump is beginning to turn the tables on the swamp.


    3. Trump promised to reduce deficit spending.

    What a crock of bull manure that promise was! Trump and his fellow Republicans have exploded federal spending and federal deficits to records never seen before. Plus, Trump has superintended over another serious stock bubble that most economists predict is nearing another crash.
    TRUMP LIED!
    This is a valid point and Trump needs to do much better.


    4. Trump said that government vaccinations of small children should “stop now,” rightly linking vaccinations to certain diseases such as autism (and even death).

    Now, Trump tells parents that their children “have to get shots.” He repeated: “They have to get their shots.”
    TRUMP LIED!
    Trump has NOT changed his position, he always said that parents should get their children vaccinated, it's right in the article Chuck cites:
    During a 2015 Republican primary presidential debate on CNN, Trump told CNN's Jake Tapper that he was in favor of "smaller doses (of vaccinations) over a longer period of time."

    "Autism has become an epidemic. Twenty-five years ago, 35 years ago, you look at the statistics, not even close. It has gotten totally out of control. I am totally in favor of vaccines. But I want smaller doses over a longer period of time," Trump said.
    "Because you take a baby in -- and I've seen it -- and I've seen it, and I had my children taken care of over a long period of time, over a two- or three-year period of time. Same exact amount, but you take this little beautiful baby, and you pump -- I mean, it looks just like it's meant for a horse, not for a child, and we've had so many instances, people that work for me."
    Trump first weighed in on the issue on Twitter in 2012.

    "Massive combined inoculations to small children is the cause for big increase in autism," he claimed.
    He made a similar argument in 2014, tweeting, "Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!"
    I'm disappointed in Chuck for twisting this.


    5. Donald Trump promised to get America out of these infernal, incessant foreign wars.

    Talk about a whopper of a lie! Trump never intended to stop America’s foreign wars.
    As I have noted several times in this column:
    Trump has dropped more bombs and missiles on Middle Eastern countries in a comparable period of time than any modern U.S. President. Presidents Bush, Obama and now [2017] Trump have dropped nearly 200,000 bombs and missiles on Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Trump’s rate of bombing eclipses both Bush and Obama; and Trump is on a pace to drop over 100,000 [180,000 to be precise] bombs and missiles on Middle Eastern countries during his first term of office—which would equal the number of bombs and missiles dropped by Obama during his entire eight-year presidency.
    Here’s more perspective:
    The United States Government, under the Trump administration, reportedly drops a bomb every 12 minutes, which means that 121 bombs are dropped in a day, and 44,096 bombs per year. The Pentagon’s data show that during George W. Bush’s eight years he averaged 24 bombs dropped per day, that is, 8,750 per year. Over the course of Obama’s time in office, his military dropped 34 bombs per day, 12,500 per year. This shows that even though American presidents are all war criminals, Trump is the most vicious of them all.
    As I said:
    Trump is dropping almost FOUR TIMES MORE BOMBS than Barack Obama and over FIVE TIMES MORE BOMBS than G.W. Bush—which included military invasions of two countries.
    We also know that Trump expanded America’s wars in Afghanistan and Syria (and, no, he is NOT bringing U.S. troops home from Syria) and is ramping up America’s war machine against Venezuela, Somalia, China and Russia. And this does not even take into account the way Trump has given Benjamin Netanyahu’s raunchy racist regime the green light to expand its wars against the Palestinians, Lebanon, Syria and Iran or the U.S./Israeli proxy war (with Saudi Arabia taking the lead) in Yemen.
    Now, Donald Trump is escalating a U.S. war in Iran.
    On Tuesday the US military announced that B-52 Stratofortress strategic bombers will be deployed to the Middle East in response to what US Acting Secretary of Defence Patrick Shanahan dubbed "indications of a credible threat by Iranian regime forces." (Source)
    “Credible threat” to whom? Does anyone actually believe that Iran poses a “credible threat” to the United States? What a farce! The truth is, Israel has been itching for a war with Iran for almost forever. But typical of the bullying apartheid Zionist State, Israel knows it cannot take on Iran unless the U.S. brings in military assistance. Hence, the Zionist toady Donald Trump is ratcheting up a U.S. war with Iran. Yep! This is just another war for Israel, folks.
    Vice President Mike Pence wasn’t kidding when he told attendees at the recent AIPAC convention: “Her [Israel’s] fight is OUR fight.” Really, Mike? Tell me, when did the American people get to vote on THAT? And please tell me, Mike, where did you find THAT in the Constitution that you took an oath to preserve, protect and defend?
    National Security Advisor John Bolton (CFR) and Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan (CFR) reportedly now have a plan in place to send 120,000 U.S. ground forces to Iran’s doorstep. Donald Trump is inching toward military confrontation with Iran.
    Ladies and gentlemen, under Donald Trump, America’s wars are literally “off the charts.”
    TRUMP LIED!
    Trump is not moving as fast on this as I would like but he is getting us out of Syria and Afghanistan.



    6. Donald Trump emphatically promised to build a wall on the U.S./Mexican border, which Mexico would pay for.

    This is one promise I am glad he hasn’t kept. I AM ALL FOR STOPPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. But I do NOT like border walls. I agree with Ron Paul: The same walls that ostensibly are used to keep people out can also be used to keep people IN. Plus, unless the United States is prepared to put military snipers and machine gunners on and around the walls (like Israel does), they do not work.
    But Trump’s lie is not simply about the wall; it is about the entire phony façade that he truly wants to stop illegal immigration. It’s all a BIG, FAT LIE, folks.
    Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) recently reported the stark truth about Donald Trump’s record on illegal immigration. And like most of the things, the truth is exactly opposite Trump’s rhetoric. ALIPAC produced a factual record of Trump’s immigration policies.
    ALIPAC documents how Trump hasn’t reduced legal immigration levels like he said he would; instead he has raised them. That Trump promised to stop illegal caravans, but instead he has allowed them to enter the U.S.—and has even supplied transportation for many of these illegals, at taxpayer expense, of course. That Trump promised to end Obama’s DACA amnesty, but he has NOT ended DACA. That he promised to oppose amnesty for illegals, but he and son-in-law Jared Kushner have cut a deal with Democrats to actually INCREASE the number of illegals receiving amnesty. That he promised to end birthright citizenship, but hasn’t done it. That he promised to end sanctuary cities, but hasn’t done it. That Trump promised to end the catch-and-release of illegals. But not only has he not ended the practice, he has INCREASED the practice.
    ALIPAC President William Gheen notes:
    Trump's border wall promise remains 90% broken because a wall will not work as long as Border Patrol catches and releases illegals and escorts them into the USA.
    Gheen goes on to say:
    As you can see from these ten painful facts above [read his article], President Donald J. Trump is conducting the largest fraud ever committed upon the American public.
    We thought we were electing another President Dwight D. Eisenhower, but we got another GW Bush because Trump's immigration policies and legislative agenda are very similar to the Bush administration.
    We need all Americans to come to terms with these betrayals and begin to organize rapidly to defend against these policies and the new legislative Amnesty push coming from the White House.
    With lifelong Democrats like Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump running the show in the White House and espousing plans to run for President as Democrats one day it makes many of us wonder... Was Trump ever really a Republican at all or merely an actor playing the role of a Judas Goat leading conservatives to our doom?
    If you listen to Trump carefully or read his numerous Tweets, you will see Trump blaming Mexico, Democrats, judges, anyone and everyone but himself for these outrages at our border. Trump wants us to believe it is everyone else's fault and responsibility but his own, when in truth the illegal immigration buck stops with Trump!
    TRUMP LIED!
    Trump is doing his best but Congress and the courts keep getting in the way.
    Does Chuck want Trump to go dictator?


    7. Trump said he would release documents investigating 9/11.

    Of course, that was another one of Trump’s monster fibs. He knows 9/11 was not carried out by 19 Muslim hijackers. He knows that his Jewish Mafia buddies were neck-deep in the 9/11 conspiracy. Trump never intended to investigate 9/11. It was all a ruse to fool conservatives and get elected.
    TRUMP LIED!
    Trump should do this and he hasn't yet, we will see.


    8. Donald Trump said he “loved” government whistleblower Julian Assange and called WikiLeaks “amazing.”

    Now that Assange has been arrested by British authorities after Ecuador stripped him of his political asylum and his citizenship was suspended, Trump declared, “I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It’s not my thing.” And you watch: Trump is going to sit back and let the U.S. government and its allies in Europe torture and murder Assange for having the guts to blow the whistle on the U.S. government’s illegal spying on the American people.
    TRUMP LIED!
    It's not over yet.

    Speaking of which…when it came to illegal government spying on the American people, Trump actually DID keep his word. But it’s not a good thing. He told us during his presidential campaign in 2016 that he fully intended to maintain—and even expand—the federal government’s illegal spying on U.S. citizens. And he has definitely kept that promise.

    Under Donald Trump, America’s burgeoning Police State is growing faster than ever. Under Trump, the IRS is not only a tax-gathering agency; it is a spy agency. I could spend almost forever on this point.
    The tables have begun to turn, we will see how this turns out.


    9. Trump promised the American people that he would be the greatest Pro-Second Amendment President the country has ever seen.

    Since becoming President, however, Donald Trump has foisted more gun-control laws on the American people than Barack Obama.
    Trump signed the worthless “bump-stock” ban into law. Trump repeatedly says that he is open to siding with Democrats in supporting additional gun control legislation. Plus, Trump is enthusiastically championing (along with Republicans Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham) one of the most—if not THE MOST—dangerous, draconian and downright Stalinesque gun-control laws to ever be proposed in the United States: “red flag” gun confiscation laws.
    Since Trump’s emphatic call for law enforcement to “take the guns first and go through due process second,” 15 states and the District of Columbia have passed these communist “red flag” laws, and THOUSANDS of innocent Americans, who did not commit a crime, did not threaten to commit a crime, were not accused of committing a crime—and without a hearing, without a trial and without any constitutional due process—have ALREADY had their guns CONFISCATED by police. And who is the chief promoter of these unconstitutional gun confiscations? President Donald Trump.
    TRUMP LIED!
    I criticized Trump over this myself but Trump is the one who has nominated the Judges who will likely block and reverse it all, Trump knows that.


    10. Trump promised to make America great.
    But since taking office, Donald Trump has done everything he can, not to make America great, but to make Israel great.
    After Trump was elected, I predicted:
    2017 will see a tsunami of Zionistic thought and theology immersing the church. Ultra-Zionists in Congress such as John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz are preparing to launch a fresh Israel-First political campaign like this country has never seen. And I predict that Donald Trump will likewise launch his own Israel-First campaign from the White House. (Source)
    They did, and he did.
    TRUMP LIED!
    While I wish he would not do so much for Israel you can't call that breaking his promise to make America great again when Trump is doing so much else to make America great again.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    He ain't Jesus!

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    that's a bunch of whining and complaining from another loser
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
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    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    The most important question. How many people did die?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    that's a bunch of whining and complaining from another loser
    Still bitter about Senator McCain's loss, I see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Still bitter about Senator McCain's loss, I see.
    What's your trauma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    What's your trauma?
    Trump is Juan McCain on steroids.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Trump is Juan McCain on steroids.
    Maybe he is. That's still progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    He ain't Jesus!


    Unfortunately they cut of the part where he says to the other arab "He is NOT perfect".
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    A truth bomb from Chuck Baldwin. Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin for president on the Constitution Party ticket, in 2008. Couldn't go for Barr, McCain and the like (Better than Obama?).
    Paul has endorsed Baldwin

    TRUMP LIED!



    MAGA is not perfect and all donors funded politicians lie to some extent but some of the criticism is also out of line and not appropriate for a sitting POTUS:


    Coulter on Trump: "joke presidency who scammed the American people"

    But according to GOA leadership, Constituional protections are being eroded here also, although they crossed the line and used the f-word:





    'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage

    'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

    Thursday 1 March 2018

    Donald Trump has sparked fury among gun owners and conservatives after repeatedly backing proposals to tighten gun control laws.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8234606.html

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    I find it hard to pick a “top 10” of Trump lies.

    According to The Washington Post, since Trump took office in January 2017, he’s told 6,420 lies in 649 days: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-telli...lleges-1200769

    Donald Trump makes previous, pathological lying presidents (almost) look “honest”: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...paign-promises

    Do NOT ever read my posts. Google and Yahoo wouldn’t block them without a very good reason: Google-censors-the-world/page3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    I find it hard to pick a “top 10” of Trump lies.

    According to The Washington Post, since Trump took office in January 2017, he’s told 6,420 lies in 649 days: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-telli...lleges-1200769

    Donald Trump makes previous, pathological lying presidents (almost) look “honest”: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...paign-promises

    WaPo is garbage.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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