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    Fox Business: Capitalism vs. Socialism

    Fox Business has been doing a running “debate” on some of it’s shows it’s calling “Capitalism vs. Socialism”.

    On Cavuto today, he had two guests “debating” the subject. The problem? His guests were both Marxists. A Trotskyite vs. a Leninist “debating” socialism vs. communism.

    Not surprisingly, they mostly agreed on the welfare state and other big government programs, the only difference being that the Leninist wanted eventual government ownership of everything, while the neo-Trot still liked some private ownership.

    One was a Yale professor, the other a representative from the neoconservative AEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Fox Business has been doing a running “debate” on some of it’s shows it’s calling “Capitalism vs. Socialism”.

    On Cavuto today, he had two guests “debating” the subject. The problem? His guests were both Marxists. A Trotskyite vs. a Leninist “debating” socialism vs. communism.

    Not u surprisingly, they mostly agreed on the welfare state and other big government programs, the only difference being that the Leninist wanted eventual government ownership of everything, while the neo-Trot still liked some private ownership.

    One was a Yale professor, the other a representative from the neoconservative AEI.
    This is what I have been seeing too. Even on here, the only two options being presented are Socialism or Communism. The mention of true free market Capitalism is being morphed and assimilated into one of those two as the only two options. The concept of Capitalism is about gone in the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    This is what I have been seeing too. Even on here, the only two options being presented are Socialism or Communism. The mention of true free market Capitalism is being morphed and assimilated into one of those two as the only two options. The concept of Capitalism is about gone in the narrative.
    You're saying that's what's happening on this website?

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    That's a little harsh with AEI. The are obviously catastrophically bad on foreign policy. They tend to have some good econ guys. Not everyone there is Bill Kristol.

    For example, I see Lew Rockwell/Tom Woods/Bob Murphy types link to Mark Perry, who would fit in at the Mises Institute. https://www.aei.org/scholar/mark-j-perry/ I really like Mark Perry's stuff. He has a lot of unique data that debunks liberal talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    You're saying that's what's happening on this website?
    Absolutely... Going forward I will point it out exact to that point for you as they pop up.

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    And right now, FOX Business has a guest that is pushing Trotsky and internationalism. The segment is titled “Socialism vs. Dem Socialism”. The guest is Jerry White, from the World Socialist website.

    FOX Business is essentially running a communist education camp today, with no true opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And right now, FOX Business has a guest that is pushing Trotsky and internationalism. The segment is titled “Socialism vs. Dem Socialism”. The guest is Jerry White, from the World Socialist website.

    FOX Business is essentially running a communist education camp today, with no true opposition.
    I knew they would go full left with all the new changes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    That's a little harsh with AEI. The are obviously catastrophically bad on foreign policy. They tend to have some good econ guys. Not everyone there is Bill Kristol.

    For example, I see Lew Rockwell/Tom Woods/Bob Murphy types link to Mark Perry, who would fit in at the Mises Institute. https://www.aei.org/scholar/mark-j-perry/ I really like Mark Perry's stuff. He has a lot of unique data that debunks liberal talking points.
    It’s quite common to have a person or two like that for appearances sake, to create an illusion of credibility, and to fake out those who don’t dig any deeper.

    The Washington-based American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research (AEI) has been a leading member of the neoconservative advocacy community for several decades. During Republican presidential administrations, AEI tends to be one of the more prominent U.S. policy institutions, with associated scholars and fellows populating numerous upper echelon policy posts in the administration. Commenting on AEI’s influence in the broader right-wing milieu, Republican Rep. Paul Ryan called the think tank “one of the beachheads of the modern conservative movement.”[1]
    ...
    AEI has been less prominent since the election of Donald Trump, attempting to maintain its place among conservatives while being occasionally critical of Trump’s policies, and rarely enthusiastic about them. AEI scholars have expressed concern about Trump’s rhetoric,[3] his stance on immigration,[4] his various scandals,[5] his response to investigations of his conduct,[6] and his trade[7] and tariff[8] policies.
    ...
    But just as central to AEI is U.S. policy on Israel and the Middle East, which has shaped its response to the Trump administration. AEI has long positioned itself within the right-wing “pro-Israel” advocacy community. A case in point was its September 2015 announcement that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was the winner of that year’s “Irving Kristol Award,” the organization’s top honor which is “given to individuals who have made exceptional practical and intellectual contributions to improve government policy, social welfare, or political understanding.”[11]

    This positon in has led AEI to be supportive of many of Trump’s geostrategic policies, particularly with respect to the Middle East. Thus, for example, several[12] prominent AEI figures[13] spoke out in support of the Trump administration’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, with no concomitant attention paid to the Palestinian claim to a capital in the same city. Senior vice president Danielle Pletka echoed Netanyahu’s claim that moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem could actually be a step toward peace, stating, “The truth is that the Israelis have had their capital in Jerusalem for almost 70 years, and Washington has maintained an embassy outside Jerusalem for the same time period, and none of that has led to a resolution between the Arabs and the Jews. There is no reason to believe that acknowledging reality will prejudice that particularly hopeless cause. Perhaps it will have the opposite effect.”[14]
    ...
    Among the better known figures with long-standing connections to the institute are several former George W. Bush administration officials and advisers who were key promoters of the Bush administration’s “war on terror” policies, including John Bolton , Paul Wolfowitz , Richard Perle , and John Yoo. President Bush highlighted the enormous influence the institute had in his administration during a January 2003 speech at an AEI dinner celebrating neoconservative trailblazer Irving Kristol . After commending AEI for having “some of the finest minds in our nation,” the president said, “You do such good work that my administration has borrowed 20 such minds.”[17]

    Although the George W. Bush presidency marked a high-point for AEI’s influence in the White House, the think tank continued to play a role influencing public debate on U.S. foreign and defense policies through the Barack Obama. In 2013, AEI brought on retired Sens. Joe Lieberman(I-CT) and Jon Kyl(R-AZ) as visiting fellows, tasking the two long-time hawks with heading the institute’s new “American Internationalism Project.”

    The think tank has long promoted U.S. military entanglements in the Middle East, advocating intervention in Syria’s civil war, a hard line against Iran, and a prolonged U.S. presence in Afghanistan. These positions were often at odds with the policies of the Obama administration and, while they may be a bit closer to Trump’s aggressive style, they are also out of step with Trump’s simultaneous isolationist streak. A 2012 AEI briefing called U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan “a recipe for endless war fought on American soil.”[18]In April 2018, AEI resident scholar Marc Thiessen wrote that Trump’s attacks in Syria, “were just muscular enough not to get mocked. As a result, they did more damage to the United States’ credibility on the world stage than they did to the Assad regime.”[19]

    In 2014, as the Obama administration announced a campaign of airstrikes against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria, Frederick Kagan, the director of AEI’s “Critical Threats” Project, came out strongly in favor of escalating the conflict by sending U.S. ground troops, arguing for a strategy that “includes a real American commitment—including some forces on the ground and the vital military and political enablers that only America can provide.”[20]

    Writing with his spouse, Kimberly Kagan of the Institute for the Study of War, Kagan suggested that the United States should send as many as 25,000 ground troops to Iraq and Syria. “Two battalion-sized quick reaction forces (QRF) will need to be available at all times, one in Iraq and one in Syria,” the couple wrote in September 2014.[21]
    ...
    AEI scholars have long identified Iran as a key Middle East threat, insisting—despite contrary assessments from U.S. and Israeli intelligence services—that Iran was actively engaged in building a nuclear weapon prior to the 2015 nuclear agreement. In a December 2011 report exploring the plausibility of containing a nuclear Iran, authors Danielle Pletka, Thomas Donnelly, and Maseh Zarif cast doubt on the possibility of effectively containing a nuclear Iran, but suggested that such a scenario was inevitable in the absence of preemptive action.
    ...
    Although AEI’s scholars focus on a range of social and domestic policy issues, the institute has long been identified with hawkish U.S. foreign policy advocacy. Many of its scholars were vociferous public promoters of attacking Iraq—even before the 9/11 terrorist attacks—and pushed for an expansive “war on terror.” AEI was closely associated with the now-defunct Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a neoconservative letterhead group that served as an important vehicle for forging a broad coalition of conservatives behind an aggressive post-Cold War U.S. agenda.

    AEI played an important role in buttressing arguments for the continued U.S. occupation of Iraq and served as a key advocacy organization for the push to approve the 2007 troop “surge.” Following the 2006 November midterm elections—which swept in Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate on a wave of antiwar sentiment—AEI scholar Frederick Kagan, an outspoken proponent of increasing troop levels in Iraq, wrote in the Weekly Standard, “We face a stark choice now. We can either maintain bases and large forces in Iraq, or we can withdraw. If we withdraw, the Iraqi Army will collapse, and we will not be able to help it except by re-entering the country in large numbers and in a much worse situation.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    And right now, FOX Business has a guest that is pushing Trotsky and internationalism. The segment is titled “Socialism vs. Dem Socialism”. The guest is Jerry White, from the World Socialist website.

    FOX Business is essentially running a communist education camp today, with no true opposition.
    Found the video. It’s not a long segment, but it is interesting to hear the Trotskyite agenda so openly discussed.

    Bottom line: For Trotskyites, there must be a global system. No nation can deviate, otherwise it won’t work. Pure communism does not exist and has never been tried. Stalin ruined it for them and would not take it global.

    Quite a system they propose that can only function if the entire world is forced to “participate”.

    https://video.foxbusiness.com/v/6036...#sp=show-clips
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    Yeah, and no Austrian Economic peeps on the show? Cherry Picking again...
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Yeah, and no Austrian Economic peeps on the show? Cherry Picking again...
    All of the segments I’ve seen are more like free advertising for various forms of Marxism. Not a whole lot of opposition.
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    Well, they do love trying to move "The Right" over towards "The Left". It's a good thing real conservatives know better. Otherwise Republicans would be nominating Democrats to run for president.

    Oh, wait...
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    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
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    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Fox Business has been doing a running “debate” on some of it’s shows it’s calling “Capitalism vs. Socialism”.

    On Cavuto today, he had two guests “debating” the subject. The problem? His guests were both Marxists. A Trotskyite vs. a Leninist “debating” socialism vs. communism.

    Not surprisingly, they mostly agreed on the welfare state and other big government programs, the only difference being that the Leninist wanted eventual government ownership of everything, while the neo-Trot still liked some private ownership.

    One was a Yale professor, the other a representative from the neoconservative AEI.
    Basically a Totalitarian and a Fascist debate
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    All of the segments I’ve seen are more like free advertising for various forms of Marxism. Not a whole lot of opposition.
    Thats exactly how Brainwashing works. It casts an Illusion of Choice. Just like voting, its either a Socialist or a Socialist or a Socialist. Arranging their statements so it appears as if things are different when they really arent at all. Heads they win, tails we lose.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Thats exactly how Brainwashing works. It casts an Illusion of Choice. Just like voting, its either a Socialist or a Socialist or a Socialist. Arranging their statements so it appears as if things are different when they really arent at all. Heads they win, tails we lose.
    Sort of like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump is not ideal but he is the least of all possible goods and the best option we have right now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And so is the lesser or greater of two evils but Trump is not either of those.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sort of like this?
    LOL

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    Seems that FOX is featuring the segments on YouTube where they seem tough on socialism...


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8mfd7yuOBA
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  21. #18
    Nomiki Konst (Marxist) gives her pitch for socialism.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBWnFsP32Ow
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  22. #19
    The nonexistent "Democratic Socialism" again.

  23. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Yeah, and no Austrian Economic peeps on the show? Cherry Picking again...
    Found a segment with Thomas DiLorenzo! Don’t blink, you may miss it.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8EAADn_F4Q
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Found a segment with Thomas DiLorenzo! Don’t blink, you may miss it.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8EAADn_F4Q
    Good points...

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Sort of like this?
    I dont blame people for the choices they make as long as they own up to the bad ones too. Not saying Trump is a good or bad choice, it still mostly falls into the Illusion category for me, but thats the beautiful thing about Freedom is we can all make our own mistakes.

    The biggest problem with Politics from the extremists today is that if anyone doesnt choose exactly as they are told, then they are somehow Terrorists. As Jeff Foxworthy once said, if you wanna drop the 600 pound TV on your skull, go right the $#@! ahead! Yeah, hurt like a summona-bitch didnt it? Yup, bet you wont do that again! People need to see mistakes so they may learn from them instead of demanding everyone make the exact same sets of mistakes and refusing to learn anything.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  26. #23
    Buy more ammo .
    Do something Danke

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I People need to see mistakes so they may learn from them instead of demanding everyone make the exact same sets of mistakes and refusing to learn anything.
    But that's what makes those who are too proud to admit their mistakes such useful idiots. The Establishment doesn't want us to learn from our mistakes.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
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    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    But that's what makes those who are too proud to admit their mistakes such useful idiots. The Establishment doesn't want us to learn from our mistakes.
    ... or to even notice theirs. Of course most of theirs are not really accidents, they are on purposes.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    I dont blame people for the choices they make as long as they own up to the bad ones too. Not saying Trump is a good or bad choice, it still mostly falls into the Illusion category for me, but thats the beautiful thing about Freedom is we can all make our own mistakes.

    The biggest problem with Politics from the extremists today is that if anyone doesnt choose exactly as they are told, then they are somehow Terrorists. As Jeff Foxworthy once said, if you wanna drop the 600 pound TV on your skull, go right the $#@! ahead! Yeah, hurt like a summona-bitch didnt it? Yup, bet you wont do that again! People need to see mistakes so they may learn from them instead of demanding everyone make the exact same sets of mistakes and refusing to learn anything.
    Kind of like how people with their favorite hypothesis that they cling to, no matter how much it fails and is disproven in reality. Communism for instance, fails every time. Then they say “but it wasn’t real communism”. So why did it fail? Then they say “because it wasn’t adopted by everyone, it wasn’t global”.

    “If it could just be forced down everyone’s throat, and all dissent eliminated, then it will work! It will be totally voluntary. Volunteer to join the glorious revolution, or die.”
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Kind of like how people with their favorite hypothesis that they cling to, no matter how much it fails and is disproven in reality. Communism for instance, fails every time. Then they say “but it wasn’t real communism”. So why did it fail? Then they say “because it wasn’t adopted by everyone, it wasn’t global”.

    “If it could just be forced down everyone’s throat, and all dissent eliminated, then it will work! It will be totally voluntary. Volunteer to join the glorious revolution, or die.”
    And if it was ever to truly become global they would claim a huge victory and success because now everyone in the world is universally and equally living in 3rd world poverty one step away from the stone age again.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by ATruepatriot View Post
    And if it was ever to truly become global they would claim a huge victory and success because now everyone in the world is universally and equally living in 3rd world poverty one step away from the stone age again.
    Saying that it was not a paradise would probably be a crime punishable by re-education or death.

    A global movement predicated on suppression and elimination of dissent would just take that even further. The main focus of this global government would be detection and elimination of any dissent. That and continual internal political struggles for power and dwindling resources. The higher a person rises in the government, the more they get. Thus the only option for those who may have some ambition will be politics, nothing productive.
    Twitter: B4Liberty@USAB4L
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Saying that it was not a paradise would probably be a crime punishable by re-education or death.

    A global movement predicated on suppression and elimination of dissent would just take that even further. The main focus of this global government would be detection and elimination of any dissent. That and continual internal political struggles for power and dwindling resources. The higher a person rises in the government, the more they get. Thus the only option for those who may have some ambition will be politics, nothing productive.
    A global monarchy with Imperial, royal and noble ranks.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Saying that it was not a paradise would probably be a crime punishable by re-education or death.

    A global movement predicated on suppression and elimination of dissent would just take that even further. The main focus of this global government would be detection and elimination of any dissent. That and continual internal political struggles for power and dwindling resources. The higher a person rises in the government, the more they get. Thus the only option for those who may have some ambition will be politics, nothing productive.
    And know what? In the bigger picture I think it has been a global monarchy with Imperial, royal and noble ranks all along but just hidden and disguised as financing and humanitarian institutions. What we see now is the longtime elitist hierarchy coming out of the closet for what it is.

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