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    White House Reviews Military Plans Against Iran ; no proof of Israeli hand in pushing war

    Despite some Lavon Affair type conspiracy chatter surfacing again following reports of Saudi tankers being sabotaged, there is no proof that Isreal or any other entity engaged in false flag operation to blame Iran in effort to push US in war against Iran.

    Ironically, below report citing 'echoes of Iraq war' is published by NYT, a paper that had led the fakenews "Iraq WMD" narrative with help of NYT's Judith Miller to help start Iraq war (Judith incidentally is reporting on Iran tensions thse days at notorious 'neocons rehab center' aka Foxnews).
    Lately, NYT has been publishing some stunning reports that don't quite fit its historic style.


    White House Reviews Military Plans Against Iran, in Echoes of Iraq War


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    The aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln last week in the Persian Gulf. As a precaution, the Pentagon has moved an aircraft carrier and more naval firepower to the gulf region.CreditCreditU.S. Navy, via Associated Press

    By Eric Schmitt and Julian E. Barnes


    • May 13, 2019


    WASHINGTON — At a meeting of President Trump’s top national security aides last Thursday, Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan presented an updated military plan that envisions sending as many as 120,000 troops to the Middle East should Iran attack American forces or accelerate work on nuclear weapons, administration officials said.
    The revisions were ordered by hard-liners led by John R. Bolton, Mr. Trump’s national security adviser. It does not call for a land invasion of Iran, which would require vastly more troops, officials said.

    The development reflects the influence of Mr. Bolton, one of the administration’s most virulent Iran hawks, whose push for confrontation with Tehran was ignored more than a decade ago by President George W. Bush.
    It is highly uncertain whether Mr. Trump, who has sought to disentangle the United States from Afghanistan and Syria, ultimately would send so many American forces back to the Middle East.

    It is also unclear whether the president has been briefed on the number of troops or other details in the plans. On Monday, asked about if he was seeking regime change in Iran, Mr. Trump said: “We’ll see what happens with Iran. If they do anything, it would be a very bad mistake.”

    There are sharp divisions in the administration over how to respond to Iran at a time when tensions are rising about Iran’s nuclear policy and its intentions in the Middle East.

    The size of the force involved has shocked some who have been briefed on them. The 120,000 troops would approach the size of the American force that invaded Iraq in 2003.
    Deploying such a robust air, land and naval force would give Tehran more targets to strike, and potentially more reason to do so, risking entangling the United States in a drawn out conflict. It also would reverse years of retrenching by the American military in the Middle East that began with President Barack Obama’s withdrawal of troops from Iraq in 2011.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/w...lans-iran.html












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    A shadowy Israeli firm is accused of spying on US government officials to undermine Iran deal


    Zerohedge is probably not bad reporter but let's wait till MSM confirmation of this story.
    Timing is interesting as there is higher risk of Iran military conflict.



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    How much is Drudge paying you to post their headlines with their logo prominently displayed?
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    Unlike Foxnews, that is notorious left wing neocons fakenews outlet, Drudge has mixed record and has not banned Coulter.

    But how did you miss these headlines but found time to gripe about logo?



    White House reviews military plans against Iran...
    'Deploy 120,000 troops' if attacked...
    SAUDI OIL TANKER SABOTAGE...
    GULF TENSIONS FLARE...


    Anthing you have to say about the subject of this thread, GOP-Adelson wing's escalation of Iran war tensions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Unlike Foxnews, that is notorious left wing neocons fakenews outlet, Drudge has mixed record and has not banned Coulter.

    But how did you miss these headlines but found time to gripe about logo?



    White House reviews military plans against Iran...
    'Deploy 120,000 troops' if attacked...
    SAUDI OIL TANKER SABOTAGE...
    GULF TENSIONS FLARE...


    Anthing you have to say about the subject of this thread, GOP-Adelson wing's escalation of Iran war tensions?
    Trump should fire Bolton & Co. and you shouldn't spam this site.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump should fire Bolton
    Very bad idea, the whole point of appointing Bolton as NSA was to keep an eye on him to understand what Foreign-Lobbies-First neocons were upto.

    For someone who posts tons of repetitive news to support GOP-Adelson wing's narratives, you seem to be quite unaware of MAGA's 3D strategies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Very bad idea, the whole point of appointing Bolton as NSA was to keep an eye on him to understand what Foreign-Lobbies-First neocons were upto.

    For someone who posts tons of repetitive news to support GOP-Adelson wing's narratives, you seem to be quite unaware of MAGA's 3D strategies.
    My posts are not repetitive and he has learned enough from Bolton, it's time to give Flynn his job back.


    You are getting sloppy.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    This MW cartoon seems improvement over more controversial NYT's cartoon past week that also showed MAGA in dark glasses but even this depiction crosses the line:


    The neoconservative push for war with Iran is not in the American people’s interest

    Opinion Philip Weiss on May 13, 2019



    For Jim Lobe's piece at Lobelog.
    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/05/neoco...ican-interest/

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    May 14, 2019
    Iranian lawmaker blames 'Israeli mischief' for tanker attacks off UAE coast

    1 Min Read
    FILE PHOTO: A damaged Andrea Victory ship is seen off the Port of Fujairah, United Arab Emirates, May 13, 2019. REUTERS/Satish Kumar

    GENEVA (Reuters) - The tanker attacks off the coast of the United Arab Emirates were “Israeli mischief,” an Iranian parliamentary spokesman said on Tuesday, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).
    “The events that took place in the Emirates were Israeli mischief,” Behrouz Nemati said, without providing any details on what role Israel may have played in the attacks.
    Saudi Arabia said on Monday that two of its oil tankers were among those attacked off the coast of the Emirates and described it as an attempt to undermine the security of crude supplies amid tensions between the United States and Iran.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN1SK0RY



    U.S. Embassy Staff to Leave Iraq as Iran Tensions Mount

    The directive comes amid U.S. warnings of heightened threats in the Middle East from Iran-allied militias, which could target American citizens and soldiers in Iraq

    At a news conference following a meeting with Russia Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was asked whether the U.S. is choosing a strategy of force with Iran. Photo: Getty

    Updated May 15, 2019 11:40 a.m. ET

    BAGHDAD—The U.S. ordered all its nonemergency diplomatic staff to leave Iraq immediately, as tensions rise with Iran over recent attacks against oil tankers and facilities in the Persian Gulf region.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-emb...ns-11557910345

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Deploying such a robust air, land and naval force would give Tehran more targets to strike, and potentially more reason to do so, risking entangling the United States in a drawn out conflict.
    Well, thank God we're in better shape than we were ninety years ago, after years of a fiscally conservative administration that knew enough was enough. Nothing worse than not having enough troops to get some shot when you really want a war.

    'China is having a new war, and we are having trouble getting into it. We always have gunboats there, so if there is any shooting, why, one of our boats will be shot at and that gives us the usual alibi.

    'But this time it seems we only had one gunboat and it had to maneuver around for days before it could get in the line of fire.'--Will Rogers
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
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    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.

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    This does not look like Lavon Affair type tactic designed to keep US entangled in mideast and not leave our closest ally alone on its own. But early reporting can be foggy, lets wait till all the facts come out:


    Rocket fired at US embassy in Iraq the same model used by Iran
    washingtonexaminer
    2 hours ago - Many foreign and Iraqi diplomats and officials are based in the Green Zone, though nonessential U.S. embassy staff were ordered out of Iraq ...


    Washexaminr is not a hardcore neoconish outlet.



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