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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fighting back in the trade wars is helping the economy instead of collaborating in hollowing it out.
    It is great for our economy that we have the highest steel prices in the world. Makes our manufacturing which uses steel that much more competitive. Thank you Mr. President!
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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    There is virtually no difference between their policies.

    Trump's government spends more than Obama's; that's a fact.

    His "deregulation" is utterly trivial (as I've demonstrated several times by citing the administration's own data).

    Foreign policy hasn't changed (e.g. more troops in Syria than before).

    Certainly nothing re due process/PATRIOT Act has changed.

    Trump's not an especially bad politician; he's just a normal one - which is to say horrible.

    But there's a certain mental illness in the country which prevents people from recognizing this obvious fact, which is what's uniquely problematic.
    LOL

    His deregulation as opposed to massive increases in regulation is making a big difference and his tax cuts for Americans and tariffs to fight back in the trade wars are also totally different and a big help.

    He has reduced our presence in Afghanistan and Syria as opposed to O'Bummer increasing it.
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fighting back in the trade wars is helping the economy instead of collaborating in hollowing it out.
    Yea, voluntary exchange is terrible; the state ought to determine the conditions under which exchange will be allowed.

    That's going to enrich us all, comrade.
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  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It is great for our economy that we have the highest steel prices in the world. Makes our manufacturing which uses steel that much more competitive. Thank you Mr. President!
    It is much better than having no steel industry and sending all our money to China.
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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Yea, voluntary exchange is terrible; the state ought to determine the conditions under which exchange will be allowed.

    That's going to enrich us all, comrade.
    That seems to be what you believe in since that is what you want to allow the ChiComs to do.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    His deregulation as opposed to massive increases in regulation is making a big difference
    It's almost literally nothing; tens of millions compared to trillions.

    ...I've said for years that a large part of the stupidity of voters is explained by confusion as to the meaning of orders of magnitude.

    and his tax cuts
    He didn't cut taxes; he increased them.

    Every dollar which the state spends has to be extracted from society; he's spending more, and so he's extracting more.

    That it appears in the form of higher interest rates rather than higher federal income tax rates is irrelevant; cost is cost.

    for Americans and tariffs to fight back in the trade wars are also totally different and a big help.
    Maybe the petition of the candle-stick makers ought to be reconsidered.

    He has reduced our presence in Afghanistan and Syria as opposed to O'Bummer increasing it.
    There are more troops in Syria now than when Obama left office, are there not?
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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It is much better than having no steel industry and sending all our money to China.
    Heck of a bargain for us.

    https://www.al.com/news/2019/05/trum...perts-say.html

    Trump steel tariffs cost $900,000 for every job created, experts say

    President Donald Trump has shown little interest in removing the steel and aluminum tariffs he imposed more than a year ago despite growing evidence Americans are paying a hefty price for these tariffs and increasing pressure from Republicans in Congress to remove them.

    U.S. consumers and businesses are paying more than $900,000 a year for every job saved or created by Trump steel tariffs, according to calculations by experts at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. The cost is more than 13 times the typical salary of a steelworker, according to Labor Department data, and it is similar to other economists' estimates that Trump's tariffs on washing machines are costing consumers $815,000 per job created.
    More at link.
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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Heck of a bargain for us.

    https://www.al.com/news/2019/05/trum...perts-say.html



    More at link.
    And the Chinese trade war has cost us much more and would end up costing us much more yet if we let it go on.
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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It's almost literally nothing; tens of millions compared to trillions.

    ...I've said for years that a large part of the stupidity of voters is explained by confusion as to the meaning of orders of magnitude.
    What part of the difference between massive additions and subtraction don't you understand?


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    He didn't cut taxes; he increased them.

    Every dollar which the state spends has to be extracted from society; he's spending more, and so he's extracting more.

    That it appears in the form of higher interest rates rather than higher federal income tax rates is irrelevant; cost is cost.
    Even if you define things that way his rate of increase is less than O'Bummer's


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Maybe the petition of the candle-stick makers ought to be reconsidered.
    No comparison, China is warping the marketplace through government interference, it would be like the window makers petitioning that their product no longer be outlawed.




    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    There are more troops in Syria now than when Obama left office, are there not?
    I don't think so but it will soon be only 200 and then 0, meanwhile the troops in Afghanistan have been cut and will soon all be gone.
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  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What part of the difference between massive additions and subtraction don't you understand?
    Surely you aren't talking about the extent of state intervention in the economy, that being a virtually unmitigated "addition."

    Even if you define things that way his rate of increase is less than O'Bummer's
    ...swell, we get poorer and oppressed at a slightly reduced speed (allegedly).

    No comparison, China is warping the marketplace through government interference, it would be like the window makers petitioning that their product no longer be outlawed.
    Or maybe China can produce things more cheaply because China is liberalizing while the USA is moving inevitably toward socialism.

    I don't think so but it will soon be only 200 and then 0, meanwhile the troops in Afghanistan have been cut and will soon all be gone.
    I think so, and we'll see about the future.

    Trump talks a lot about invading Iran (and hired Bolton).

    About the only good thing I have to say about the previous scoundrel is that he genuinely did not (despite FOX propaganda) want to invade Iran.

    The current scoundrel does.
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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post

    There are more troops in Syria now than when Obama left office, are there not?
    I don't think so but it will soon be only 200 and then 0, meanwhile the troops in Afghanistan have been cut and will soon all be gone.
    Trump said we would be out of Syria by January 22nd, 2019.

    Obama sent 400 "advisors and trainers" to Syria to train rebel groups. Trump increased it to more than 2,000. Looks like 1,000 will stay meaning more than twice as many as Obama sent there will remain in Syria for the foreseeable future. https://nypost.com/2019/03/17/us-pla...thdrawal-call/

    US planning to keep 1,000 troops in Syria despite Trump’s withdrawal call


    The US military is readying plans to keep 1,000 American troops in Syria — a development that comes three months after President Trump announced he wanted a full withdrawal, according to a report Sunday.

    The Trump administration’s talks with Turkey, European allies and US-backed Kurdish fighters haven’t resulted in an agreement to create a safe zone in the country’s northeast, where the Kurds are fighting Islamic State terrorists, the Wall Street Journal reported.

    After Trump’s December announcement, Turkey threatened to cross the border into Syria and attack the Kurds, whom Ankara accuses of being a terrorist group.

    The US will now continue to work with the Kurds, meaning that as many as 1,000 American troops will remain in Syria.

    Trump’s initial decision to remove the roughly 2,000 troops prompted the resignation of Defense Secretary James Mattis and criticism from bipartisan lawmakers who accused the president of pulling out before ISIS had been defeated.
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  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Surely you aren't talking about the extent of state intervention in the economy, that being a virtually unmitigated "addition."



    ...swell, we get poorer and oppressed at a slightly reduced speed (allegedly).
    You are trying to confuse different things as if they are all the same, they are not and your claim that Trump's economy is the same as O'Bummer's is laughable.


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Or maybe China can produce things more cheaply because China is liberalizing while the USA is moving inevitably toward socialism.
    That is pure garbage, the Chinese government is inextricably intertwined with every facet of their economy and they are blowing a debt bubble so large it makes ours look small, they have been subsidizing their industries and erecting barriers to ours to a ridiculous extent.



    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I think so, and we'll see about the future.

    Trump talks a lot about invading Iran (and hired Bolton).

    About the only good thing I have to say about the previous scoundrel is that he genuinely did not (despite FOX propaganda) want to invade Iran.

    The current scoundrel does.
    Trump will not invade Iran and he will not do anything like Libya.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump said we would be out of Syria by January 22nd, 2019.

    Obama sent 400 "advisors and trainers" to Syria to train rebel groups. Trump increased it to more than 2,000. Looks like 1,000 will stay meaning more than twice as many as Obama sent there will remain in Syria for the foreseeable future. https://nypost.com/2019/03/17/us-pla...thdrawal-call/
    That was discredited, only 200 will be left and eventually they will leave.

    Top US General Denies Plans To Leave 1,000 Troops In Syria

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  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That was discredited, only 200 will be left and eventually they will leave.

    Top US General Denies Plans To Leave 1,000 Troops In Syria
    The Korean War may eventually end too.
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  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The Korean War may eventually end too.
    Trump is negotiating that now.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump is negotiating that now.
    So any day now.
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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    according to calculations by experts at the Peterson Institute for International Economics.
    Globalist think tank promotes globalism.

    Your data is suspect.

    In an opinion piece for The New York Times published in 2016, Steven Rattner called the new building of the Peterson Institute "the locker room of the Team Globalization and Free Trade cheering squad." We should not close our borders or retreat from the world, said Rattner, but free trade has winners and losers, and "we need to be more sensitive to the losers and try to help," for example by redistribution of income through the tax system, which, he said, we haven't been doing. He goes on to state that Ross Perot was right when he said that the North American Free Trade Agreement would transfer American jobs to Mexico, particularly in manufacturing. From 2009 to 2013, employment in the American auto manufacturing sector rose by 23%, from 560,000 to 690,000. But employment in the Mexican auto sector rose from 368,000 to 589,000, or 60%. "I’m happy that 221,000 more Mexicans got jobs," he writes, "but let’s be honest: Absent open borders, many of those jobs would have been in America." He concludes by pointing out that wages in American auto manufacturing are down by 12.7%. Furthermore, American auto manufacturing compensation was $35.67 an hour; in Mexico, it was $6.36 an hour. Adam Posen, then the Peterson Institute's director, responded that “fetishization” of any industry was “immoral.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peters...onal_Economics

  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    You know, I can actually understand that point of view, but I also see joblessness and welfare as a form of slavery. Government wants a dependent class. People who get up at 6:30 in the morning to work an 8-to-5 job and can actually buy their groceries with their own money, well, they have skin in the game. They have something to be proud of, even if it is a crappy job cleaning toilets at a truck stop—there is at least more honor in it than sitting at home watching daytime TV and spamming trips to the mailbox looking for a check they didn't earn.

    When the majority of people realize they don't actually have to work for a living, we're going to see a real implosion of the economy. I guarantee you people are going to be worried about a lot more than a washing machine costing a few bucks more when that happens. Hell they're already adopting UBI in cities here in the USA, where people literally get a paycheck just for exchanging oxygen for carbon-dioxide. Hell, I can do that, I'll vote for whatever, so where's my money?

    Believe me, you want people to work. You want them to have a dog in the fight. I can definitely see it the way you put it, but I also see it my way, and between the two, I've made my choice.
    I do want people to work and have a dog in the fight. What I don't want is "jobs" that suck away 80% of the fruits of people's labor from taxation, inflation, fees-to-exist, etc. That is the majority of what qualifies as jobs these days. Tax and fee engines (batteries...see Matrix explanation of the "construct") and not much else. If you look at the whole system from a 10,000 feet level, the whole system as it currently stands is a giant ponzi scam. That system relies on the current iteration of "jobs" and the controllers know it, hence the Fed's dual mandate.
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  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are trying to confuse different things as if they are all the same, they are not and your claim that Trump's economy is the same as O'Bummer's is laughable.
    That you don't (or won't) see that Trump's economy is virtually identical to Obama's is laughable.

    e.g.



    Where's the "Trump effect"?

    Nowhere...

    The fact is that the massively hampered market economy which exists despite the Obamas and Trumps of the world is still productive enough to recover in spite of the massively socialistic policies of said clowns.

    That is pure garbage, the Chinese government is inextricably intertwined with every facet of their economy and they are blowing a debt bubble so large it makes ours look small, they have been subsidizing their industries and erecting barriers to ours to a ridiculous extent.
    Therefore, we should do the same, but larger!

    ..herp, derp, herp derp...

    Trump will not invade Iran and he will not do anything like Libya.
    Had he been in office at the time, he would have done exactly what was done in Libya.



    "We're sitting around, we have soldiers all over the middle east, and we're not bringing them in..."

    "We should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick."
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That you don't (or won't) see that Trump's economy is virtually identical to Obama's is laughable.
    LOL



    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Therefore, we should do the same, but larger!

    ..herp, derp, herp derp...
    We aren't doing anything like the ChiComs.


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Had he been in office at the time, he would have done exactly what was done ins Libya.



    "We're sitting around, we have soldiers all over the middle east, and we're not bringing them in..."

    "We should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick."
    Trump said a lot of things in the past that do not show themselves in his current policy, whether he was being PC in order to build his career and possibly prepare to run for office or whether he has learned and changed doesn't matter, he will not invade Iran and he has done nothing like Libya.
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  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    Since you found the unemployment chart showing no difference at all between Obama and Trump so amusing, I give you some more:







    We aren't doing anything like the ChiComs.
    The US is moving toward socialism, while China is moving away from it.

    This is because the US is democratic and China is not (the culture which you think matters is utterly meaningless).

    Trump said a lot of things in the past that do not show themselves in his current policy, whether he was being PC in order to build his career and possibly prepare to run for office or whether he has learned and changed doesn't matter, he will not invade Iran and he has done nothing like Libya.
    LOL
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  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Since you found the unemployment chart showing no difference at all between Obama and Trump so amusing, I give you some more:






    Correlation is not causation, O'Bummer had the Fed blowing a big fat bubble while he increased taxes and regulations, the Fed has been raising rates under Trump while he has reduced taxes and regulations.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The US is moving toward socialism, while China is moving away from it.

    This is because the US is democratic and China is not (the culture which you think matters is utterly meaningless).
    The US may or may not be moving towards socialism but Trump is slowing or reversing it and China is not moving away from it at all.
    The culture is all important in both cases.
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  27. #144



    Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama ?


    Apparently Zippy claimed that most of the jobs came from Obama era (pending confirmation).



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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Thank You President Barack Hussein Obama ?

    Apparently Zippy claimed that most of the jobs came from Obama era (pending confirmation).
    The longer I'm here the worse your posts get, now you are turning into zippy's little brother.
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  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Correlation is not causation, O'Bummer had the Fed blowing a big fat bubble while he increased taxes and regulations, the Fed has been raising rates under Trump while he has reduced taxes and regulations.
    Obama and Trump have both increased dramatically the size of government. Now, it is true that Trump has recently not had the benefit of extraordinary money printing; that's why he's been complaining about the lack of it. The impending massive depression won't be Trump's fault uniquely; he won't have done anything exceptional, just continued the stupidities of his predecessors.

    The US may or may not be moving towards socialism


    but Trump is slowing or reversing it
    The government is substantially larger now than when Obama left office; this is mathematical fact.

    and China is not moving away from it at all.
    China has made about as much progress toward liberalism as we've made toward socialism, which is to say, alot.

    The culture is all important in both cases.
    It means nothing; but, by all means, keep railing against tacos while the bolsheviks (for whom you enthusiastically vote) take power.
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  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Obama and Trump have both increased dramatically the size of government. Now, it is true that Trump has recently not had the benefit of extraordinary money printing; that's why he's been complaining about the lack of it. The impending massive depression won't be Trump's fault uniquely; he won't have done anything exceptional, just continued the stupidities of his predecessors.







    The government is substantially larger now than when Obama left office; this is mathematical fact.



    China has made about as much progress toward liberalism as we've made toward socialism, which is to say, alot.



    It means nothing; but, by all means, keep railing against tacos while the bolsheviks (for whom you enthusiastically vote) take power.
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  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You must be the annoyed pig.
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  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You must be the annoyed pig.
    I'm not at all annoyed but you seem to be.
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  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I'm not at all annoyed but you seem to be.
    I'm cool as a cucumber.



    Here's the thing; it annoys me that relatively intelligent people fall for obvious con-men.

    That said, it doesn't really matter; this system is going to the same conclusion regardless of what any of us do.

    So, che sara sara.
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