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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Are you actually attempting to deny that trump is expanding bush and obomba's NWO regime change foreign policy in Venezuela? Perhaps you'll attempt to deny that the Yemen veto happened, or the hiring of NWO neocons like bolton and abrams?
    This is silly. The left thinks Trump is a Russian puppet. You (and likely some others here) think Trump is the "NWO's" puppet.

    To be perfectly honest with you, he isnt either. The only person Trump cares about is himself and that makes him entirely predictable. He wants to go down as a great president (to his base) and he will do what he feels will achieve that.

    Its important to remind yourselves that Trump is not a libertarian and he never pretended to be.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by eleganz View Post
    This is silly. The left thinks Trump is a Russian puppet. You (and likely some others here) think Trump is the "NWO's" puppet.

    To be perfectly honest with you, he isnt either. The only person Trump cares about is himself and that makes him entirely predictable. He wants to go down as a great president (to his base) and he will do what he feels will achieve that.

    Its important to remind yourselves that Trump is not a libertarian and he never pretended to be.
    I know some morons on this forum gave him the moniker of "Ron Paul on steroids" but yea, he is definitely no libertarian. He is a conservative leaning president and there is nothing wrong with that.

    The problem is that he lied during the campaign saying he was non interventionist when he is not. He could have withdrawn US troops from Syria after the battle for ISIS was over but he did not. We have more troops in Syria now than when Obama was president.

    Also, think of the NWO, the people have created the refugee crisis in the middle east and then think of the people he surrounds himself with. If hes not a NWO puppet then he is for some bizarre reason doing their bidding.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I know some morons on this forum gave him the moniker of "Ron Paul on steroids" but yea, he is definitely no libertarian. He is a conservative leaning president and there is nothing wrong with that.

    The problem is that he lied during the campaign saying he was non interventionist when he is not. He could have withdrawn US troops from Syria after the battle for ISIS was over but he did not. We have more troops in Syria now than when Obama was president.

    Also, think of the NWO, the people have created the refugee crisis in the middle east and then think of the people he surrounds himself with. If hes not a NWO puppet then he is for some bizarre reason doing their bidding.
    He is more noninterventionist than the alternatives or we would already be in several more wars instead of being on the way to removing the troops from Syria and Afghanistan.

    He is not a NWO puppet but the government is full of them and he must make deals with them in order to get things done and stay alive and unimpeached.
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  5. #64
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He is more noninterventionist than the alternatives or we would already be in several more wars instead of being on the way to removing the troops from Syria and Afghanistan.

    He is not a NWO puppet but the government is full of them and he must make deals with them in order to get things done and stay alive and unimpeached.
    He appeared more anti interventionist than the alternative but in reality they are virtually the same. The candidate you thought was a worse alt would have continued the fight with Russia and her allies plus the war with Venezuela and Iran. Just like Trump is doing now.

    He may not be a NWO puppet but he has continued with his agenda.
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  8. #66
    He is more noninterventionist than the alternatives or we would already be in several more wars instead of being on the way to removing the troops from Syria and Afghanistan.

    He is not a NWO puppet but the government is full of them and he must make deals with them in order to get things done and stay alive and unimpeached.
    Let's keep the comedy rolling! The turd sandwich sure tastes better than the shyt stew, just keep trotting out that lesser of two evils garbage often enough and some just might fall for it. No, trump isn't a NWO puppet, he just happened to hire a cabinet full of them by mere coincidence, and is somehow being forced to do their bidding and act as a NWO puppet. LOL!


    So, for the shylls that are attempting to claim that trump's NWO regime change foreign policy isn't an NWO regime change foreign policy, I'll spoon feed it to you. After all, we wouldn't want anyone to remain willfully ignorant and uninformed of this fact, would we?

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3...d-order-agenda
    After two years of witnessing Trump in action, it is clear to me that he is an active participant in the new world order agenda, and not just an unwitting patsy for the economic crisis.
    Trump’s first action upon entering the White House was to invite multiple “swamp creatures” into his cabinet, going against his core campaign promise. This was not all that surprising considering his past.

    Trump was saved in the 1990s by Rothchild banking agent Wilber Ross, who bailed him out of his debts tied up in his failing Taj Mahal casino. Wilber Ross is now Trump’s commerce secretary. I ask, who is Trump going to be loyal to? The American people, who can offer him nothing of consequence, or the Rothschilds, who saved his public image and his billion-dollar empire?

    Trump is also currently “advised” by the likes of Steven Mnuchin formerly of Goldman Sachs, Larry Kudlow formerly of the New York Fed, and John Bolton of the CFR, among others.

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3...want-to-happen
    But how could the banking elites and globalists possibly predict Trump's behavior in order to take advantage of it? Well, if you look at Trump's background as well as the number of elites he has placed within his own cabinet, the reality if the situation becomes clear: Trump is a puppet, and always has been.
    The globalists don't have to predict Trump's behavior, they dictate Trump's behavior. Thus, the false left/right paradigm reigns supreme once again; the same paradigm many Trump followers thought they were escaping by rallying against a Clinton presidency.

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/0...nezuela-again/
    Guaido wants to be a US puppet; he has already been a thorough ideologue who has submitted his will to the stuff that makes up the New World Order.
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/leaked...eapons/254708/
    the U.S. Army states that major global financial institutions — such as the World Bank, International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) — are used as unconventional, financial “weapons in times of conflict up to and including large-scale general war,” as well as in leveraging “the policies and cooperation of state governments.”
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/watch-...ezuela/257396/
    Here are the top five special interest groups and institutions that seek to benefit from the U.S. backed coup in Venezuela.
    Number 1: The International Monetary Fund (IMF), which wants to saddle the Venezuelan people with enormous debt to the IMF
    The trojan horse for the return of neoliberalism in Venezuela, Juan Guaidó, stated that he’s going to borrow money from the IMF to fund his government, which would make all Venezuelans indebted to this predatory institution. Guaidó spends the money, the poor and working people work to pay taxes that pay off the principal and the interest.

    This is why the IMF’s standard “structural adjustment program” is based on the so-called Washington Consensus, a set of 10 economic policies entirely concocted by U.S. think tanks, the IMF, the World Bank and the Treasury Department.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...185902069.html
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...195030646.html
    Newly installed World Bank Group president David Malpass said on Thursday that the development lender is preparing to become "deeply involved" in Venezuela, "but the situation is still troublesome on the ground".

    Speaking at a press conference on the opening day of the joint World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) spring meetings, Malpass said that Venezuela is a "deep concern" for the World Bank

    And here's a couple more links exposing the NWO globalist backgrounds of quite a few of the behind the scenes figures:
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/whos-b...-in-dc/258533/
    https://thegrayzone.com/2019/04/13/u...csis-invasion/

    Remember that attempting to excuse trump's NWO regime change foreign policy is nothing less than directly opposing Ron Paul, and his statements that sanctions are an act of war and that foreign policy needs to follow the Golden Rule. Hopefully Massie is successful in throwing a wrench into the gears.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Let's keep the comedy rolling! The turd sandwich sure tastes better than the shyt stew, just keep trotting out that lesser of two evils garbage often enough and some just might fall for it. No, trump isn't a NWO puppet, he just happened to hire a cabinet full of them by mere coincidence, and is somehow being forced to do their bidding and act as a NWO puppet. LOL!


    So, for the shylls that are attempting to claim that trump's NWO regime change foreign policy isn't an NWO regime change foreign policy, I'll spoon feed it to you. After all, we wouldn't want anyone to remain willfully ignorant and uninformed of this fact, would we?

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3...d-order-agenda




    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/3...want-to-happen




    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/0...nezuela-again/


    https://www.mintpressnews.com/leaked...eapons/254708/


    https://www.mintpressnews.com/watch-...ezuela/257396/




    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...185902069.html
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/...195030646.html



    And here's a couple more links exposing the NWO globalist backgrounds of quite a few of the behind the scenes figures:
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/whos-b...-in-dc/258533/
    https://thegrayzone.com/2019/04/13/u...csis-invasion/

    Remember that attempting to excuse trump's NWO regime change foreign policy is nothing less than directly opposing Ron Paul, and his statements that sanctions are an act of war and that foreign policy needs to follow the Golden Rule. Hopefully Massie is successful in throwing a wrench into the gears.
    I dunno if this would be enough for his supporters seeing as we still have the theory that he may still be trying to play 3D chess with the NWO.

    See he ran an anti NWO campaign to win the presidency but seeing as the NWO ppl are short memoried stupid people, he would now try to trick them by pretending now that he is pro NWO. Personally if I was gonna play tricks, I would play my tricks on the NWO to get power and only after then would I reveal my true intention.

    But what do I know
    You can maintain power over people, as long as you give them something. Rob a man of everything, and that man will no longer be in your power. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Trust principles; not people.
    My Che avatar is my unique way of giving a big middle finger to the, the neocons, the globalists, imperialists and most importantly to the left and right political establishment who hate his guts till this day. My admiration for him ends where his anti imperialist pro communism ideology starts.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    He appeared more anti interventionist than the alternative but in reality they are virtually the same. The candidate you thought was a worse alt would have continued the fight with Russia and her allies plus the war with Venezuela and Iran. Just like Trump is doing now.

    He may not be a NWO puppet but he has continued with his agenda.
    Hitlery would have had us at war with Russia over Crimea and would be accelerating our involvement in Syria and Afghanistan while probably also starting all out wars in Venezuela and Iran and possibly other places.

    Trump is not starting actual wars and he is moving us towards withdrawal in Syria and Afghanistan.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  11. #69
    trump's NWO regime change foreign policy is unacceptable, and repetitively being told that the turd sandwich you're selling tastes better than the shyt stew doesn't change that.
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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    trump's NWO regime change foreign policy is unacceptable, and repetitively being told that the turd sandwich you're selling tastes better than the shyt stew doesn't change that.
    Give me a better option and I'll take it but until then I'd rather be poisoned slowly so that I have a chance to live long enough to stop it over being poisoned quickly.

    Trump isn't just reducing the damage either, he is turning us closer to the right direction.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  13. #71
    Claiming that trump's NWO regime change foreign policy is somehow "turning us closer to the right direction" is nothing less than direct opposition to Ron Paul and Thomas Massie. Right here on RPF, in your face, fully sanctioned by the site owner and mods.

    Hopefully Massie is able to put a stop to this.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Claiming that trump's NWO regime change foreign policy is somehow "turning us closer to the right direction" is nothing less than direct opposition to Ron Paul and Thomas Massie. Right here on RPF, in your face, fully sanctioned by the site owner and mods.

    Hopefully Massie is able to put a stop to this.
    LOL
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  16. #73
    Have I missed something, or have we no business in Venezuela?

    I seem to recall some far worse things having gone on in Rwanda, yet I recall no hand wringing about the horrors there that make Venezuela look like a circle jerk.
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