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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Rand HAS affected Trump's policy.
    Like on that Wall Emergency Declaration? https://www.npr.org/2019/03/03/69983...forcing-a-veto

    Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky says he'll vote in favor of a resolution to terminate President Trump's national emergency declaration with regards to the U.S.-Mexico border. Paul's support means the resolution will likely pass the Senate with bipartisan support and could force the president to issue his first veto.
    "There is always a tweet. That has become accepted fact in the Trump presidency: For every pronouncement the President makes, there is at least one tweet from his past that directly contradicts his current view." -CNN

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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Rand HAS affected Trump's policy.
    ...not in any meaningful way.

    If the general thrust of Trump's policies is Rand-approved, then Rand has utterly sold out, because Trump's policies are terrible.

    But he hasn't; he just has no meaningful influence over policy, which is totally unsurprising.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...not in any meaningful way.

    If the general thrust of Trump's policies is Rand-approved, then Rand has utterly sold out, because Trump's policies are terrible.

    But he hasn't; he just has no meaningful influence over policy, which is totally unsurprising.
    So you don't think Trump is tempering Bolton? You think if Bolton was President, we wouldn't have started 5 new wars? You don't think Rand has any influence on that?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So you don't think Trump is tempering Bolton?
    Right, Trump appointed Bolton to temper him...

    You don't think Rand has any influence on that?
    On Bolton having the job? Obviously not, since Bolton has the job.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Hey, those are pretty good debating skills. Can you teach me that?




    "And no?" What does that mean? I didn't see where Dannno called you a dumbass. Link?
    You are the rightwing embodiment of the idiotic "leftist" media and politicians who cry exclusively about Trump's mean tweets while ignoring his abhorrent policies. I'm truly sorry that my post was not kind and well-mannered enough for your liking, but I didn't think it would distract you so much from the actual content of the post, in which I absolutely destroyed your ideological compatriot, danno.

    And I know you have made it abundantly clear in the past few years that you are incapable of complex thoughts, but this may be a new low. "And no" is in response to the accusation dannno made, saying that "If Trump had signed it as an Executive Order, you people would have pointed out the same thing. But you are only interested in bashing Trump.(referring to the existence of pro-israel rhetoric in the bill)" which I had made abundantly clear in the very next sentence when I typed:

    "I would not point out meaningless language in the bill "we support Israel and Jews" to use to bash Trump if he signed the bill." Learn to read before trying to dissect people's posts, jeez
    Last edited by Influenza; 05-17-2019 at 01:47 PM.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    "I would not point out meaningless language in the bill "we support Israel and Jews" to use to bash Trump if he signed the bill." Learn to read before trying to dissect people's posts, jeez
    It wasn't meaningless language, it was literally "this bill is null and void if Israel wants us to help them do something this bill stops us from doing".

    And you are being dishonest.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc


    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It wasn't meaningless language, it was literally "this bill is null and void if Israel wants us to help them do something this bill stops us from doing".

    And you are being dishonest.
    The US is not currently involved in Yemen due to Israel, it's due to Saudi Arabia. That's why as of now, that language is absolutely meaningless. If Israel decided to start bombing yemen too in the future, and wanted US help, then that clause would be important.

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    The US is not currently involved in Yemen due to Israel, it's due to Saudi Arabia. That's why as of now, that language is absolutely meaningless. If Israel decided to start bombing yemen too in the future, and wanted US help, then that clause would be important.
    You think they would have waited even one day to get involved?
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    ...I absolutely destroyed your ideological compatriot, danno.

    Forum observation #17. The guy claiming he "destroyed" his competitor is desperately losing the debate.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    The US is not currently involved in Yemen due to Israel, it's due to Saudi Arabia. That's why as of now, that language is absolutely meaningless. If Israel decided to start bombing yemen too in the future, and wanted US help, then that clause would be important.
    'Murica IS involved. We supplied the Saudis with the weaponry.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    'Murica IS involved. We supplied the Saudis with the weaponry.
    Did you even read any of my posts in this thread, including the one you responded to? It really doesn't seem like it

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Forum observation #17. The guy claiming he "destroyed" his competitor is desperately losing the debate.
    I have long since won the "debate." dannno and co. have done nothing besides strawman and misrepresent the facts on this topic, like just about every single other topic.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You think they would have waited even one day to get involved?
    Israel itself starting to bomb yemen, of all places, would be the most random thing ever. Your beliefs are not rooted in reality.

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    Israel itself starting to bomb yemen, of all places, would be the most random thing ever. Your beliefs are not rooted in reality.
    Bombing is not the only way they can get involved and it wouldn't be random at all, they would be "fighting Iranian backed terrorists".
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    Did you even read any of my posts in this thread, including the one you responded to? It really doesn't seem like it
    Well that's on you then.

    America shouldn't be selling to them in the first place. America is involved because of Americas actions. Don't serve the alcoholic shots.
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