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It's true.
Trump is the first president in a very long time to admit they can't pull an infinite number of real beans out of the mythical beanbag. Is he off the script, or are they setting us up for the fall?'The budget is a mythical beanbag. Congress votes mythical beans into it, and then tries to reach in and pull real beans out.'--Will Rogers
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
I won't call it 'losing our a-word', would call it "cooperation".
True friendship demands sacrifices too. As long as our national debt and human costs are within our tolerance budget, we should continue to stand by our closest allies.
Potentially Related
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/w...s-attacks.htmlFebruary 17, 2019
New York Times Claims Osama Bin Laden Motivated by ‘News Coverage of Displaced Palestinians’
he New York Times is suddenly and retroactively blaming Israel for motivating the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, without much evidence to support the claim. A recent Times news article about deadly attacks in Africa by affiliates of the terrorist group Al Qaeda blames them on President Trump’s decision to obey an American law that required him to move the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel
Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217%
Last edited by enhanced_deficit; 04-29-2019 at 10:09 AM.
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
In related news, today's top news on Drudge:
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
Then perhaps you should stop aiding Saudi Arabia with their war on Yemen.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
Time to stop defending them then.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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"Defending"?
Is that what "fighting all their neighbors while they sit on their asses" is called?
I'm using his words, he seems to think we are defending them.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Well, I guess he is on script after all.
In this line of activism we do here, we should know better than to kneejerk on everything we hear. There are a whole bunch of liars out there expecting this.
Liars all...
Last edited by goldenequity; 04-29-2019 at 04:40 PM.
What part of what I said is a knee jerk reaction?
Trump has been "in the club" from the beginning. If he weren't, he'd never have gotten continual 24/7 coverage during the primaries. That we learned during two Ron Paul campaigns. So if your point is you think Trump's not playing conservatives, you might as well stow it. Otherwise, spit it out.
https://twitter.com/walid970721/stat...48996735758336
Blair's "45 minutes" comes to mind.
They don't even try to make something new, just recycle their old propaganda over and over again.
And the lemmings take it for facts even still...
I'm just saying that we need to pay no heed to what we hear and wait for the fat orange man to sing and act before getting too excited. Know what I mean?
No. I've been watching that brat bask in the public eye for forty years. It hasn't excited me one bit in all that time. If you think he's going to get a rise out of me now, your expectations may be a tad elevated.
My comment was not directed at you specifically friend. It was just a general observation how there are a lot of kneejerks about everything.
Translation: "I'm losing my ass defending you."
IMO the message was for the Saudi government more than the crowd.
Trump had to veto the vote against the Yemen war from both parties just to protect his Saudi buddies, and he doesn't feel like their doing much to support him in return.
Yeah... it's all about U donald.
President Donald yelled to a roaring crowd of Trump-retards:Some party poopers rated this a “Pants on Fire” lie....With all that being said though, we have $450 billion, $110 billion of which is a military order, but this is equipment and various things ordered from Saudi Arabia, $450 billion.
I think it's over a million jobs. That's not helpful for us to cancel an order like that. That hurts us far more than it hurts them.
The Saudis haven´t bought anywhere near $110 billion in arms.
Nor has Saudi Arabia ordered anywhere near $450 billion worth of goods.
Total exports to Saudi Arabia in 2017 were $25.4 billion. “Only” $14.5 billion in arms sales has been agreed upon (not $450 billion or $110 billion). There is no reason at all to think that all of these will be bought though.
The over one million jobs becomes quite ridiculous if you compare it to the offered exports to the Saudis.
In 2015, the US Commerce Department said exports supported “165,000 jobs" for a export total of $29.7 billion (that´s higher than in 2017). This means that the United States gets .0000056 per job on average.
If we take the $110 billion in arms sales as a “fact” (which it isn´t) they could generate more than 600,000 jobs. If we take the agreed upon $14.5 billion, this would support “only” 81,200 jobs.
The arms experts have said that arm sales typically take 3 or more years to complete. When you take this into account the $14.5 billion won´t be bought in 2019 alone and the amount of generated jobs would be even much lower: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...llion-saudi-o/
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Last edited by goldenequity; 05-03-2019 at 02:36 PM.
MAGA's foreign policy is not perfect and seems to have been hijacked by neocons (over which it may lose 2020 unless Dem leaders managed to play fake opposition successfully)... but criticism should be done without using controversial words that tend to shut down debate.
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says Trump is "Saudi Arabia's bitch" in tweet
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
What do the real presidents, Javanka, Bolton & Pompeo say?
Average it out and make your best guess.
Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
MAGA.
CNN@CNN
Exclusive: When Murtaja Qureiris was 10, he led protests demanding rights for Saudi Arabia’s Shia minority. Now, at the age of 18, he faces the death penalty
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...-penalty-intl/
Deir Ezzor... member how we blew all their bridges cept 4 the ones ISIS used??? I do.
It looks like President Donald has been working hard to get more jobs producing arms in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia...
In a May 24 letter, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo notified congressional leaders of the national emergency declaration, waiving congressional review for 22 separate arms sales to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates totaling $8.1 billion.
The arms package, previously blocked by Congress, includes 120,000 precision-guided bombs from Raytheon to the coalition. These will add to the tens of thousands of bombs that the Saudis and UAE have already stockpiled, so they could continue fighting in Yemen practically indefinitely. It also includes support for Saudi F-15 warplanes, mortars, anti-tank missiles and .50-caliber rifles.
The emergency declaration also allows Raytheon Company to build high-tech bomb parts in Saudi Arabia. This information was first reported last Monday.
The bomb parts to be jointly build by Raytheon and the Saudis include the control systems, guidance electronics and circuit cards for the Paveway “smart” bombs. According to Representative Ted Lieu, it seemed “to serve no purpose other than to forfeit our technology and prevent future congressional oversight”.
Possibly the Saudis will copy the technology and use it to produce their own weapons, which they could use for example in Yemen or sell to other countries (without US Congress having a say).
Raytheon executives have made their way into high-ranking positions.
In 2017, Raytheon’s former vice president for government relations, Mark T. Esper, became Army secretary.
According to the Times, Saudi Arabia has "ordered more than 27,000 missiles worth at least $1.8 billion from Raytheon alone" of which "about $650 million of those Raytheon orders came after the Saudi war in Yemen began".
In May 2017, Raytheon signed a deal to work closely with the Saudi Arabian Military Industries Company. It is unclear whether the new production deal is part of that plan.
On Wednesday, several Members of US Congress - , including Rand Paul, Lindsey Graham and Robert Menendez - announced that they would introduce “measures” against the arms deals. The “coalition” must just as terrified of the terrorist-supporting UN as the toothless Congress by now...
Rand Paul commented:Is Saudi Arabia really worse than the US, UK, Israel or the Netherlands?!?Few nations should be trusted less than Saudi Arabia. In recent years, they have fomented human atrocities, repeatedly lied to the United States and have proved to be a reckless regional pariah. It is concerning and irresponsible for the United States to continue providing them arms.
Malinowski, a top human rights official under President Obama, said the bombs will be used in Yemen, not for defending Saudi Arabia or UAE from Iran, as Trump administration officials have claimed: http://archive.is/8uqQe
(original here: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/u...-raytheon.html)
Last edited by Firestarter; 06-08-2019 at 08:23 AM.
Do NOT ever read my posts. Google and Yahoo wouldn’t block them without a very good reason: Google-censors-the-world/page3
The Order of the Garter rules the world: Order of the Garter and the Carolingian dynasty
According to another thread in which a mod changed the title simply because Trump lies so nothing he says can be taken seriously, even when he says things we have been waiting to hear for a long time.
Thats all or nothing libertarianism for ya, folks.
I asked for that specific mod to step forward, nada.
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
Filomena Rocha
@Filomen03258997
[finally]"A CNN exclusive investigation found that SaudiArabia & its coalition partners transferred the American-made weapons to al Qaeda-linked fighters, Salafi militias & others involved in the Yemen war, violating agreements with the UnitedStates."
https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/...-lost-us-arms/
And not only in Yemen. (of course)
Sad that it takes this long for well paid "journalists" to find out what we've known for years.
What truly amazes me is the dissonant 'ability' of otherwise thinking minds....
to somehow divide the actions 'the empire'
from
our nation state.
.... like they're 2 separate things.
amazing what you can wrap in a flag.
Last edited by goldenequity; 06-09-2019 at 05:54 AM.
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