Unemployment: Record Low. Homelessness: Record High. Something's Fishy.

**Brian4Liberty** · 04-27-2019, 11:32 AM

The economy is booming, we are told. Unemployment is nearly non-existent! Jobs for everyone! But at the same time homelessness is on the rise, leading several major US cities to declare an emergency over the problem. Why the discrepancy? Are government stats wrong?

**acptulsa** · 04-27-2019, 11:40 AM

In B4 Zippy pops up to tell us the Bureau of Labor is right to tell us the homeless aren't unemployed, they just chose to retire early.

**Pauls' Revere** · 04-27-2019, 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=acptulsa;6788342]In B4 Zippy pops up to tell us the Bureau of Labor is right to tell us the homeless aren't unemployed, they just chose to retire early.[/QUOTE

Employment numbers are B.S.

Government definition of unemployment

Being involuntarily out of work. The government defines unemployed as people who are jobless, looking for jobs, and available for work.

What if I voluntarily choose to not work, not look, and be not available? Am I considered employed?

**Zippyjuan** · 04-27-2019, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere

Being involuntarily out of work. The government defines unemployed as people who are jobless, looking for jobs, and available for work.

What if I voluntarily choose to not work, not look, and be not available? Am I considered employed?

If you are not working and not looking for a job, you are not considered in the labor force and are not considered unemployed. They only worry about jobs for people who want one and are trying to find one.

**Stratovarious** · 04-27-2019, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Zippyjuan

If you are not working and not looking for a job, you are not considered in the labor force and are not considered unemployed.

But if you are employed full time, to troll on libertarian forums you are considered what ,
not looking for a real job , or gainfully employed ?

**Pauls' Revere** · 04-27-2019, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Stratovarious

But if you are employed full time, to troll on libertarian forums you are considered what ,
not looking for a real job , or gainfully employed ?

+ rep

What if I consider myself in the work force although not employed or looking since I identify as a participant? I have a trophy to show for it.

**oyarde** · 04-27-2019, 07:15 PM

I make as much money without working as I did when I was working and am not looking for a job . I am not homeless as long as I pay my property tax . How do they count me ?

**Stratovarious** · 04-27-2019, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere

+ rep

What if I consider myself in the work force although not employed or looking since I identify as a participant? I have a trophy to show for it.

: )

Everyone gets a trophy , its the law. :hammer:

**Stratovarious** · 04-27-2019, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by oyarde

I make as much money without working as I did when I was working and am not looking for a job . I am not homeless as long as I pay my property tax . How do they count me ?

Well first off , you are renting from the gobt, we all are, so good on you....... : )

**Superfluous Man** · 04-28-2019, 07:52 PM

Homelessness isn't at a record high.

I didn't watch the video, so I'm not sure what statistic they're referring to for that. It might be referring to some specific places where it's at a record high, but not nationwide.

**DamianTV** · 05-01-2019, 03:39 AM

Would any company willingly hire a Homeless Person over an Illegal Immigrant? ... and looking at the big companies, hopefully mom and pop shops are a bit more compassionate than any company that builds an AI to FIRE as many "inefficient employees" as possible in order to maximize their revenue streams. The real question here is how did these people become homeless to begin with. Corporate greed? Mental Illness as the case with many War Vets? Fell thru the cracks? Kicked out because they were not willing to take a bite of Corporate Americas big $#@! SANDWICH?

**AZJoe** · 05-05-2019, 02:17 PM

**Zippyjuan** · 05-05-2019, 06:22 PM

Not in the Labor Force (figures for April 2019). https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea38.htm

Total Not In the Labor Force (thousands): 96,596

Do Not Want A Job Now: 91,645

Want A Job: 4,951

Of those who want a job:

Did Not Look For One in the Past Year: 2,892 (do they really want a job if they aren't even looking for one?)

Searched Past Year but Not Past Four Weeks: 2,059

Not Available To Work Now: 642

Available for Work: 1,417

Discouraged over Job Prospects: 454

Why don't the 92 million say they don't want a job now?

https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-...ey-working.htm