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    Ukraine's Zelensky urges Russia sanctions after citizenship rule change

    Ukraine president-elect Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday urged more international sanctions against Russia after Moscow made it easier for people living in eastern Ukraine's separatist territories to obtain Russian passports.Kiev is "counting on increased diplomatic and sanctions pressure on the Russian Federation," Zelensky's press service said in a statement.
    "The Russian Federation has recognized its responsibility as an occupying state," it added referring to the Russian President Vladimir Putin's decree which was signed earlier today.
    The decree was aimed at residents of the unrecognised Donetsk and Lugansk republics that broke away from Kiev in 2014 and are governed by Moscow-backed rebels.
    People living in the separatist regions will now be entitled to receive a Russian passport within three months of applying for one.
    Ukraine's outgoing President Petro Poroshenko also slammed the decision, calling it "Russia's unprecedented interference in the internal affairs of an independent state."
    "This is an attempt to justify and legitimize Russia's military presence in the occupied part of the Ukrainian Donbass," Poroshenko said in a video statement, referring to the Kremlin-backed separatist areas.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-zele...162015482.html
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday there was nothing wrong with easing rules for residents of Ukrainian rebel regions to receive Russian passports, a decision that prompted condemnation and calls for more sanctions against Moscow.Speaking to reporters at the end of a summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, Putin said Poland, Romania and Hungary grant citizenship to their ethnic kin outside their borders and he saw no reason why Russia could not do the same.
    "It caused a negative reaction. That's strange," Putin said.
    "How are Russians in Ukraine worse than Romanians, Poles or Hungarians? I don't see anything unusual here."
    Putin signed an order on Wednesday saying that residents of the Donestk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine were entitled to apply for Russian citizenship under an expedited procedure to be processed within three months.


    Putin said on Thursday that Moscow was willing to work with Zelenskiy if he implemented the full terms of the 2015 truce agreements, brokered in the Belarus capital Minsk with international support. Both sides accuse each other of violating the agreements.
    "If those coming to power in Kiev find the strength to implement the Minsk agreements, we will do all we can to cooperate and we will do everything to normalize the situation in south-eastern Ukraine," Putin said.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/putin-nothing...100000192.html
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    If Russia wanted. They would already reached Kiev in matter of weeks.
    The international sanctions against Russia only bring Russia and China more together.
    America uses the EU because lets be honest they are the ones still militarily occupying Europe.

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    With art imitating life presidential elections in Ukraine ended with Volodymyr Zelenski garnering a massive majority over incumbent Petro Poroshenko. So, let’s get right to the point.
    Will this change anything?
    The West poured a lot of money and time into Poroshenko. It was obvious months ago he was not going to win a second term no matter what he did. With him mostly gone from the scene it is now up to Zelensky to put together a plan which goes far beyond the protest vote against Poroshenko’s obvious corruption.
    The problem is we have no idea if he’s 1) capable of doing this or 2) strong enough to implement anything he comes up with.
    With his party polling below 30% it’s clear this wasn’t a mandate for him but one against Poroshenko. The probability is high that he will be unable to form a stable, majority government later this year if his election isn’t a country-wide revolution but rather a short-lived temper tantrum.
    Let’s hope it’s the former. Given just how deep the US ties into Poroshenko and Yulia Tymoshenko are I would bet on the latter, unfortunately.
    So, his next steps are important. And the issues facing him are severe.
    From the Donbass, which he supported reconciling with versus Poroshenko’s unbridled belligerence, to Crimea. Zelensky will have to face down enormous political pressure to solve them in ways that reflect reality.
    That means mending some of the bridges burned under Poroshenko with Russia, which he says he wants. But the question is whether he realizes that much of the anti-Poroshenko vote is tied into this. And just how tenuous his position as president truly is.
    It means he will need to look Southeast to Pakistan where outsider and supposed political neophyte Imran Khan is walking a similar tightrope as a geopolitical hot potato. Khan is trying to do unite the civilian and military arms of Pakistan’s leadership under one roof.
    It’s no small task.
    And, so far, Khan has acquitted himself well. He’s cut deals with both Saudi Arabia on energy and Iran on border security/terrorism. He’s survived major conflagrations with India and Iran; false flag operations timed to create maximal chaos and paralyze his government and any reforms.
    In short, Zelensky will have to lead. It will mean talking with Putin. It will mean giving up something to put the Western vultures, both in the US and Europe, at bay. And he needs to do so in a way that is orthogonal to Poroshenko.
    If Zelensky is going to survive and bring Ukraine out of the mess that it’s in, he’s going to have to realize that rapprochement with Russia is the way forward.
    It means having the courage to not make unruly demands on Putin. Poroshenko spent the last year of his presidency leaving poison pills behind for whoever succeeded him.
    Breaking the Treaty of Friendship and attacking the Kerch Strait Bridge being the two big ones. He has to agree to back off on military use of the Sea of Azov and accept blame for the incident in return for getting the sailors Russia holds freed.
    Ending the bombing of the Donbass is also needed, disengaging back to the Minsk contact lines and stop lying about the situation. This would go a long way to establish a baseline of trust.
    And it’s low-hanging fruit. Ukrainians outside of the insane American diaspora, want this done. But, it’s also on a short-timer because 2019 is slipping away and a lot of energy issues have to be solved.
    Putin upped the ante barring coal and oil exports to Ukraine last week placing Ukraine in a very vulnerable position come this winter. And remember, no gas transport deal at the end of this year as well.
    He is not without leverage as the EU has dragged its feet on the final approvals of the Nordstream 2 pipeline. This is a pivotal moment. Gazprom and Russia are pot-committed to the project, with it nearly complete and the EU is now trying to leave it unfinished to inflict maximum pain.
    The Ukrainian economy is collapsing. Coal production is down 8% year-over-year. Putin knows this and has Zelensky in a stranglehold.
    Angela Merkel has made no bones about how important securing gas transit through Ukraine is to getting the EU to change its policies towards Russia. And Vladimir Putin will not budge on his negotiating any new deals until Ukraine changes.
    So, all of these competing agendas are coming to a climax in the next couple of months. And off in the corner is the European Parliamentary elections in a month. And they could easily change the entire political will of the European Union.
    Euroskeptics like Matteo Salvini could finally push for ending sanctions against Russia if Putin and Zelensky bury the hatchet on some of the latest issues left behind by Poroshenko. Returning the sailors would undercut the need for the latest sanctions. Withdrawing the Ukrainian Army from the contact line in accordance with the now only symbolic Minsk II agreement would melt EU resistance to lifting sanctions.
    But, lastly, these things would allow for a nominal gas transit contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz which would end-run around the opposition to Nordstream 2 as Merkel tells her people and Denmark to stand down on the final permits.
    Lots of ifs, I know. But that’s the path in front of Zelensky if he’s serious about making substantive changes to the dynamic in Eastern Europe. The incalculable damage that’s been done to the region for cynical geopolitical goals can never be undone but it can stop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    With art imitating life presidential elections in Ukraine ended with Volodymyr Zelenski garnering a massive majority over incumbent Petro Poroshenko. So, let’s get right to the point.
    Will this change anything?
    The West poured a lot of money and time into Poroshenko. It was obvious months ago he was not going to win a second term no matter what he did. With him mostly gone from the scene it is now up to Zelensky to put together a plan which goes far beyond the protest vote against Poroshenko’s obvious corruption.
    The problem is we have no idea if he’s 1) capable of doing this or 2) strong enough to implement anything he comes up with.
    With his party polling below 30% it’s clear this wasn’t a mandate for him but one against Poroshenko. The probability is high that he will be unable to form a stable, majority government later this year if his election isn’t a country-wide revolution but rather a short-lived temper tantrum.
    Let’s hope it’s the former. Given just how deep the US ties into Poroshenko and Yulia Tymoshenko are I would bet on the latter, unfortunately.
    So, his next steps are important. And the issues facing him are severe.
    From the Donbass, which he supported reconciling with versus Poroshenko’s unbridled belligerence, to Crimea. Zelensky will have to face down enormous political pressure to solve them in ways that reflect reality.
    That means mending some of the bridges burned under Poroshenko with Russia, which he says he wants. But the question is whether he realizes that much of the anti-Poroshenko vote is tied into this. And just how tenuous his position as president truly is.
    It means he will need to look Southeast to Pakistan where outsider and supposed political neophyte Imran Khan is walking a similar tightrope as a geopolitical hot potato. Khan is trying to do unite the civilian and military arms of Pakistan’s leadership under one roof.
    It’s no small task.
    And, so far, Khan has acquitted himself well. He’s cut deals with both Saudi Arabia on energy and Iran on border security/terrorism. He’s survived major conflagrations with India and Iran; false flag operations timed to create maximal chaos and paralyze his government and any reforms.
    In short, Zelensky will have to lead. It will mean talking with Putin. It will mean giving up something to put the Western vultures, both in the US and Europe, at bay. And he needs to do so in a way that is orthogonal to Poroshenko.
    If Zelensky is going to survive and bring Ukraine out of the mess that it’s in, he’s going to have to realize that rapprochement with Russia is the way forward.
    It means having the courage to not make unruly demands on Putin. Poroshenko spent the last year of his presidency leaving poison pills behind for whoever succeeded him.
    Breaking the Treaty of Friendship and attacking the Kerch Strait Bridge being the two big ones. He has to agree to back off on military use of the Sea of Azov and accept blame for the incident in return for getting the sailors Russia holds freed.
    Ending the bombing of the Donbass is also needed, disengaging back to the Minsk contact lines and stop lying about the situation. This would go a long way to establish a baseline of trust.
    And it’s low-hanging fruit. Ukrainians outside of the insane American diaspora, want this done. But, it’s also on a short-timer because 2019 is slipping away and a lot of energy issues have to be solved.
    Putin upped the ante barring coal and oil exports to Ukraine last week placing Ukraine in a very vulnerable position come this winter. And remember, no gas transport deal at the end of this year as well.
    He is not without leverage as the EU has dragged its feet on the final approvals of the Nordstream 2 pipeline. This is a pivotal moment. Gazprom and Russia are pot-committed to the project, with it nearly complete and the EU is now trying to leave it unfinished to inflict maximum pain.
    The Ukrainian economy is collapsing. Coal production is down 8% year-over-year. Putin knows this and has Zelensky in a stranglehold.
    Angela Merkel has made no bones about how important securing gas transit through Ukraine is to getting the EU to change its policies towards Russia. And Vladimir Putin will not budge on his negotiating any new deals until Ukraine changes.
    So, all of these competing agendas are coming to a climax in the next couple of months. And off in the corner is the European Parliamentary elections in a month. And they could easily change the entire political will of the European Union.
    Euroskeptics like Matteo Salvini could finally push for ending sanctions against Russia if Putin and Zelensky bury the hatchet on some of the latest issues left behind by Poroshenko. Returning the sailors would undercut the need for the latest sanctions. Withdrawing the Ukrainian Army from the contact line in accordance with the now only symbolic Minsk II agreement would melt EU resistance to lifting sanctions.
    But, lastly, these things would allow for a nominal gas transit contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz which would end-run around the opposition to Nordstream 2 as Merkel tells her people and Denmark to stand down on the final permits.
    Lots of ifs, I know. But that’s the path in front of Zelensky if he’s serious about making substantive changes to the dynamic in Eastern Europe. The incalculable damage that’s been done to the region for cynical geopolitical goals can never be undone but it can stop.


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...change-ukraine
    excellent. thnx 4 posting

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin said on April 27 that Moscow was considering offering all Ukrainian citizens the opportunity to fast-track Russian passports, Reuters reported.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...all-ukrainians
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said on April 27 that Moscow was considering offering all Ukrainian citizens the opportunity to fast-track Russian passports, Reuters reported.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...all-ukrainians
    I really think it's a brilliant chess move. srsly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    I really think it's a brilliant chess move. srsly.
    Another chess move Russia is doing right now is that they will stop exporting its gas from Russia to Ukraine and will use North Stream 2.



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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    I really think it's a brilliant chess move. srsly.
    How can they continue to claim he is trying to absorb the breakaway areas if the offer is open to all Ukrainians?

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday raised the possibility of meeting Ukraine's president-elect in a sign Moscow might want to improve relations that soured after its 2014 annexation of Crimea.Putin said if they meet, he and Volodymyr Zelenskiy should discuss how to end Ukraine's conflict with Russian-backed separatists in its southeast.
    The Russian leader talked to reporters while in Beijing for a forum on China's Belt and Road infrastructure-building initiative.
    "If we have a meeting sometime, begin some negotiations, which I do not rule out, then we will first of all have to talk about how to end the conflict in the southeast of Ukraine," Putin said at a news conference.
    Moscow's relations with Ukraine soured after the 2014 annexation of Crimea and the war Russia-backed separatists.
    Putin also said Moscow is considering whether to offer citizenship to all Ukrainians following his decree this week to expedite applications by residents of the rebel-held parts of eastern Ukraine.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/putin-raises-...100637394.html
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    Enrico Ivanov ☦‏ @Russ_Warrior ∑ 5 min.
    Putin on Zelensky's childish decision to simplify the procedure to get the Ukrainian citizenship for Russians
    as response to Russian initiative about Donbass.
    "I'm glad he realizes that we are one people, this approach will be helpful in the future"--Putin
    https://life.ru/1212307

    Owned again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post


    Enrico Ivanov ☦‏ @Russ_Warrior ∑ 5 min.
    Putin on Zelensky's childish decision to simplify the procedure to get the Ukrainian citizenship for Russians
    as response to Russian initiative about Donbass.
    "I'm glad he realizes that we are one people, this approach will be helpful in the future"--Putin
    https://life.ru/1212307

    Owned again...
    How long do you think it will be before Russia and Ukraine merge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    How long do you think it will be before Russia and Ukraine merge?
    Probably after the west finally collapses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Probably after the west finally collapses.
    Probably but it would be funny if it happened before that.
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    RIGHT TO FACILITATED RUSSIAN CITIZENSHIP ACQUISITION GRANTED TO CERTAIN CATEGORIES OF CITIZENS OF IRAQ, SYRIA, YEMEN, AFGHANISTAN, AND DESCENDANTS OF DEPORTEES FROM CRIMEA - PUTIN'S DECREE
    http://www.interfax.com/news.asp



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    https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1123611737176117249






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    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-01-2019 at 10:33 AM.

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    “It will be impossible to open fire at Donbass with impunity”

    In the next year, after a wave of inhabitants of the region obtaining Russian citizenship, about 500,000 citizens of Russia can appear in Donbass. In fact, the status of people and territories will change.

    “They will no longer be able to open fire at them with impunity, as has been done by the UAF during the last five years,” said the CEO of the Center for Political Information Aleksey Mukhin.

    Today the authorities of Ukraine perceive the residents of the DPR and LPR according to the concept of total war: as an absolute enemy who it is impossible to negotiate and reach an agreement with, who international standards and conventions do not apply to, and who can only be destroyed, noted the political scientist and director of the Center for Geopolitical Expertise Valery Korovin.

    “The Ukrainian authorities during the last five years have dehumanised the image of the residents of Donbass, depicting them as a total, irreconcilable enemy subject for destruction. This was caused by the fact that Ukraine considered the inhabitants of the People’s Republics as a part of their own population, which itself has a low status in the eyes of the Ukrainian leadership, even those who are located on the territories controlled by Kiev,” reported Korovin.

    Obtaining Russian passports completely and cardinally changes the status of the residents of the DPR and LPR. They turn into fully-fledged citizens, with all rights and freedoms, on whose side there is the Russian state with all its power, diplomatic, military, administrative capabilities, with social support and full legal recognition of these people as full citizens of the Russian Federation, pointed out the political scientist.

    “It is precisely this humanitarian aspect that Vladimir Putin spoke about when he explained the decision to issue Russian passports, meaning that being outside of the legal space of Russia, people will be just simply physically destroyed, subjected to genocide according to the concept of the total war that is waged by Ukraine against the residents of Donbass,” said Korovin.

    “The right to protection against attempts to violate rights”

    By obtaining Russian passports, the residents of the LPR and the DPR acquire the same rights and the same status that the other citizens of the Russian Federation have, said the political analyst and erudite Anatoly Wasserman.

    “They will be no different to other citizens. There are some nuances connected, for example, to the fact that they will receive a Russian pension only if they move to the territory of the Russian Federation. But this is a general rule for all citizens”, explained the political scientist.

    He added that he also once passed through these formalities.

    “This is not really complicated. But anyway, the common set of rights will be the same. Including the same – like for other citizens of the Russian Federation – right to protection against different ugly attempts to violate these rights,” said Wasserman.

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    a reminder....



    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/sta...54411758018560


    eternal damnation not ONLY to the banderites but to their international SPONSERS as well...
    McCain is already roasting.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree to expand a simplified system for obtaining Russian citizenship to all residents of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Eastern Ukraine, RFE/RL reported July 17. In response, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called for an easier system to grant Ukrainian citizenship to individuals facing human rights violations in their home states.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...idents-donetsk
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    Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has ordered an overhaul of the process for granting Ukrainian citizenship, in response to a Russian decree expanding the number of Ukrainians who can apply for fast-track Russian passports.Zelenskiy's office said early on Thursday, just a few hours after the Kremlin published Russian President Vladimir Putin's order, that the foreign ministry would simplify the procedure for certain groups to attain Ukrainian citizenship.
    Those who suffer from human rights violations and constraints on freedom in their home countries, and ethnic Ukrainians "from friendly powers" willing to help Ukraine's development, would be eligible for fast-track passports, Zelenskiy's office said.
    It did not explain which countries are considered to be friendly.
    "The President made this decision because of... an order by President Vladimir Putin introducing a simpler procedure for granting Russian citizenship to Ukrainians," the statement said.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-plans...102635096.html
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  27. #24
    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy has signed a decree to facilitate the process of obtaining Ukrainian citizenship for Russian nationals who have faced persecution for their political beliefs in Russia, the Kyiv Post reported Aug. 13. The decree remains subject to approval by the Ukrainian Parliament, which has two months to pass the law.

    More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situa...ng-persecution
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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