Human composting

[Superfluous Man]

What is your problem with her post? She merely stated embalming fluids contain toxins.

I don't have a problem with it if it's meant as a point in favor of doing what the OP is talking about, and if it's meant in agreement with what pcosmar said.

But since she says she meant that as a point against those, then it doesn't make sense.

Not using embalming fluids is part of the process the OP is talking about.

[donnay]

They have been doing it for thousands of years..

Farmland became battlefields,, 200K men killed each other and a few left alive,, and it became farmland again.

From the Dust you were made and to Dust you return..

The problem is embalming fluids.

Arsenic and Old Graves: Civil War-Era Cemeteries May Be Leaking Toxins
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...ins-180957115/

Yes. And you also might go back and reread that post you were responding to, and specifically what he quoted in it and was responding to himself.

Here, I will lay it out for you...it was in the line of what pcosmar said of which I highlighted and then pointed out how bad that idea was (then) with an article from the Smithsonian. Hindsight is 20/20.

[Origanalist]

I don't have a problem with it if it's meant as a point in favor of doing what the OP is talking about, and if it's meant in agreement with what pcosmar said.

But since she says she meant that as a point against those, then it doesn't make sense.

Not using embalming fluids is part of the process the OP is talking about.

Well, some government approved rendering plant to turn me into fertilizer creeps me out just as much as being embalmed. What could go wrong?

[ATruepatriot]

Instead of "donating your body for science" would it then be an option to "donate your body for agriculture"?

[donnay]

Well, some government approved rendering plant to turn me into fertilizer creeps me out just as much as being embalmed. What could go wrong?

Exactly.

This is why some cultures bury the dead within 24 hours. No need for pumping poisons into them, just let the life cycles do what it does best. That goes for cremation as well.

[pcosmar]

Being embalmed strikes me as incredibly creepy. Just dig a hole and chuck me in, fill it up and pass around a bottle and a pipe.

Plant me with a small started tree,,.. and any celebration would be fine as well.

I SHOULD BE SO LUCKY.

[ATruepatriot]

Plant me with a small started tree,,.. and any celebration would be fine as well.

I SHOULD BE SO LUCKY.

Let me share a story about a tree...

My friend Joe imported a tree from Az into the middle of the Mojave desert in Ca. It is an Az willow and the only one to be found in that whole desert. As soon as he planted it he spread the word that he needs folks to stop and piss on it. 20 years later "Joe's tree" is huge and known by everyone local. In fact.... If someone wants to meet without disclosing exactly where... it is at "Joe's tree" in the middle of nowhere. May you someday be as important as Joe's tree.

[DamianTV]

Soylent Green is PEOPLE! Holy $#@!, does that mean Soylent Green is REAL?

[UWDude]

Plant me with a small started tree,,.. and any celebration would be fine as well.

I SHOULD BE SO LUCKY.

Me too. It has always been how I wish to be buried.
I know there was another article here about that being legalized in Washington as well.
It just seems the way it should be, to me.

In fact, my plan is, if I one day hear the terminal C word, to get my health together, and get out there, way out there in the mountains, in places I know, and dig my grave, then end it.

[pcosmar]

Soylent Green is PEOPLE! Holy $#@!, does that mean Soylent Green is REAL?

Everything BUT Green

[Schifference]

People should be able to dispose of themselves however they see fit. Let a family member dig a hole and put you in it, if that is what you want. No regulations required. Chop you up and burn you in the coal stove if that is what you want... Period...

[ATruepatriot]

Everything BUT Green

Right at the end of the movie it became soylent red...

[pcosmar]

https://www.redbubble.com/people/rib...reen?p=t-shirt
Unprocessed.

[oyarde]

From what I have seen , washington state has a lot of state legislators that need composting .

[Dr.3D]

People should be able to dispose of themselves however they see fit. Let a family member dig a hole and put you in it, if that is what you want. No regulations required. Chop you up and burn you in the coal stove if that is what you want... Period...

The funeral parlors would object to that. They have lobbied to make sure you have to pay something to dispose of a body.

We also have the folks who make the vaults the casket is placed in and the casket makers, they would also object.

If there is money to me made, the government has been lobbied to make laws to make sure that money is made.

[DamianTV]

Everything BUT Green

Soylent Brown?

[Origanalist]

From what I have seen , washington state has a lot of state legislators that need composting .

Quoted for truth.

[Origanalist]

Let me share a story about a tree...

My friend Joe imported a tree from Az into the middle of the Mojave desert in Ca. It is an Az willow and the only one to be found in that whole desert. As soon as he planted it he spread the word that he needs folks to stop and piss on it. 20 years later "Joe's tree" is huge and known by everyone local. In fact.... If someone wants to meet without disclosing exactly where... it is at "Joe's tree" in the middle of nowhere. May you someday be as important as Joe's tree.

Cool story bro....

[Danke]

From what I have seen , washington state has a lot of state legislators that need composting .

I think oyarde should be properly buried, not composting in the sun. I will help fund that. Any RPF members who wish to help in this effort, PM me.

[oyarde]

I think oyarde should be properly buried, not composting in the sun. I will help fund that. Any RPF members who wish to help in this effort, PM me.

I was thinking in a great temple , overlooking your home so I can keep helping to develop your character .

[Swordsmyth]

I was thinking in a great temple , overlooking your home so I can keep helping to develop your character .

[ATruepatriot]

Cool story bro....

I thought he was crazy planting that tree in the middle of nowhere like that. Turned out to be a long time reminder of him and a cool addition to the area.

[goldenequity]

No. You can't just 'mouse over'. I said guess.

[goldenequity]

Washington passes Bill to become first state to compost human bodies.



https://www.straitstimes.com/world/u...t-human-bodies

[pcosmar]

But,,

Is it covered in my VA Burial?

[timosman]

https://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...man-Composting

[goldenequity]

https://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...man-Composting

oops/ srry SS

[goldenequity]

ok... so I will try and redeem myself.
check this out....

https://twitter.com/kambrone64/statu...94155063709697



goin prospectin w/ my cell phone.. sure.

[oyarde]

No. You can't just 'mouse over'. I said guess.

Washington , Oregon or California . Do I get a beer ?

[tod evans]

Decomposing HUMAN remains can legally be used as compost from 2027 thanks to new California law aimed at tackling climate change

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...te-change.html

A California law makes it legal to turn human remains into compost
The process involves placing the body inside a reusable container along with wood chips and aerating it to allow microbes and bacteria to do their thing
The law, signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom this week, takes effect in 2027
‘With climate change ... this is an alternative method of final disposition that won’t contribute emissions into our atmosphere,' the bill's author said

California will begin offering the option of human composting after death thanks to a bill recently signed into law that aims to tackle climate change.

Human composting, also known as natural organic reduction (NOR), would be an option for residents who don't want to be buried or cremated upon their death - starting in 2027.

The process involves placing the body inside a long, reusable steel container along with wood chips and flowers to aerate it - allowing microbes and bacteria to do break down the remains.

Approximately one month later, the remains will fully decompose and be turned into soil.

Advocates for the bill, which was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Sunday, have said that NOR is a more climate-friendly option.

Cremation in the U.S. alone emits about 360,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year, according to National Geographic.

The bill bans the combining of various peoples' remains unless they are related.

But it does not make it illegal to sell the soil that results from the process or use it to grow food for human consumption.

‘AB 351 will provide an additional option for California residents that is more environmentally-friendly and gives them another choice for burial,’ Democratic Assembly member Cristina Garcia, the author of the bill, said in a statement.

‘With climate change and sea-level rise as very real threats to our environment, this is an alternative method of final disposition that won’t contribute emissions into our atmosphere.

‘I look forward to continuing my legacy to fight for clean air by using my reduced remains to plant a tree,’ she wrote, noting that she herself may choose the method when she passes away.

Micah Truman, founder and CEO of Return Home, a funeral home in the Seattle area that specializes in human composting, said there's been growing demand for the practice in recent years.

'With cremation, instead of sitting with our person and saying goodbye, we are very divorced from the process,' he told The Guardian.

Advocates for the bill, which was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom this week, have said NOR is a more climate-friendly option
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Advocates for the bill, which was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom this week, have said NOR is a more climate-friendly option

Truman said when a body is composted by his facility, the resulting soil is returned to the family to do with it as they wish - some customers have planted trees or flowers, while others have spread it into the ocean.

The Catholic Church in the state is against the process.

‘NOR uses essentially the same process as a home gardening composting system,’ the executive director of the California Catholic Conference, Kathleen Domingo, said in a statement to SFGATE.

She added that the process was developed for livestock, not humans.

‘These methods of disposal were used to lessen the possibility of disease being transmitted by the dead carcass,’ Domingo said.

‘Using these same methods for the “transformation” of human remains can create an unfortunate spiritual, emotional and psychological distancing from the deceased.'

Washington, Colorado and Oregon have all legalized the process of composting human remains. However, Colorado does not allow the soil to be sold or used to grow food for human consumption.

Under a bill recently passed by New York's state legislature, only cemeteries would be allowed to apply for a license to offer human composting - which the New York State Funeral Directors Association objects to.

'Funeral directors have always essentially prided themselves as being very responsive, fully responsive, to what a person deserves for their own funeral and burial - however they would like it,' Randy McCullough, deputy executive director of the organization, told NY1 News.

'And we still want to do that with this process. We're not opposed at all to the introduction of these alternative disposition processes, per se.'