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    Lawmakers, Doctors, Attorneys and Oregon Public Oppose Secretive Bill to Force All Vaccines on

    Lawmakers, Doctors, Attorneys and Oregon Public Oppose Secretive Bill to Force All Vaccines on Oregon Children

    Oregon Bill HB 3063 proposes to exclude children from school if they are missing just one vaccination.

    It strips Oregonians of religious and philosophical freedom when it comes to vaccines and abolishes all but the medical exemption (ME).

    In Oregon most doctors are unwilling to write medical exemptions because they must be approved by the Oregon Health Authority (OHA), and they have one of the most restrictive set of rules for MEs in the country.

    Science journalist and book author Jennifer Margulis, PhD, Dr. James Lyons-Weiler, PhD, a biochemist who has published over 100 peer-reviewed papers, and Dr. Paul Thomas, MD, a pediatrician with over 15,000 children in his practice, and many others will be gathering in Salem, Oregon at a “Rally for Rights” to oppose the bill on April 23, 2019.

    Oregon State Senator Dennis Linthicum issued a press release stating that "House Bill 3063 is hovering in the Ways and Means Committee and is being tinkered with behind the scene by a group of lawmakers attempting to abolish consent in medicine."

    Oregon State Senator Kim Thatcher also issued a press release this week opposing the bill, and proposing 28 amendments to the bill to "dismantle the false narrative promoted by proponents of forcible injections."

    One of her amendments calls for all lawmakers who vote for HB 3063 to have "their immediate family members administered to them the bill’s mandated vaccines. Vaccination protocol shall begin within 30 days of the passage of the bill and adhere to the full schedule required for children under the bill."

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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Unbelievable. These people will stop at nothing.

    U.S Navy Acknowledges: MMR Vaccine Caused Viral Mumps Outbreak
    https://ahrp.org/u-s-navy-acknowledg...umps-outbreak/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    As good a reason as any to pull your kids out of public school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    As good a reason as any to pull your kids out of public school.
    And many are doing that. Some of the state legislatures are proposing bills that would include homeschoolers for forced vaccinations because they are becoming a bigger percentage of the population.

    The Next Mandatory Vaccine Battleground: Homeschool Children
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Unbelievable. These people will stop at nothing.

    U.S Navy Acknowledges: MMR Vaccine Caused Viral Mumps Outbreak
    https://ahrp.org/u-s-navy-acknowledg...umps-outbreak/
    Booster vaccines were given AFTER the outbreak as a precaution. Vaccines did not cause the outbreak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Booster vaccines were given AFTER the outbreak as a precaution. Vaccines did not cause the outbreak.
    These people are entirely incapable of getting even the tiniest detail correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Booster vaccines were given AFTER the outbreak as a precaution.
    Source?

    That would go against Merck's instructions for the mumps vaccine:

    There is no conclusive evidence that vaccination of individuals recently exposed to wild-type mumps or wild-type rubella will provide protection.{33,37}
    Source.

    However, plenty of sources saying those with the MMR vaccine can still get mumps:

    MMR vaccine prevents most, but not all, cases of mumps and complications caused by the disease.
    Source.
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    Source?

    That would go against Merck's instructions for the mumps vaccine:



    Source.

    However, plenty of sources saying those with the MMR vaccine can still get mumps:



    Source.
    Sure. https://www.stripes.com/viral-infect...rines-1.572711

    The viral infection affected less than 4 percent of the ship’s personnel, Lt. Chloe Morgan with 5th Fleet public affairs wrote in an email about the illnesses.

    When they were symptomatic, the sailors and Marines were quarantined and treated in the ship’s medical facilities, the Navy said. Their living and work areas were also cleaned and disinfected.

    Everyone aboard the USS Fort McHenry were given a measles, mumps and rubella booster vaccination “out of an abundance of caution,” according to the statement.
    Wait- you saying vaccines work?

    MMR vaccine prevents most, but not all, cases of mumps
    (no vaccine claims to be 100% effective in all people).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post

    Wait- you saying vaccines work?



    (no vaccine claims to be 100% effective in all people).
    Not me, CDC. Nice try though...

    Do you have any evidence anywhere that vaccinating "boosters" to those who already have the mumps actually works, or is recommended somewhere?
    There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.
    (1 John 4:18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Created4 View Post
    Not me, CDC. Nice try though...

    Do you have any evidence anywhere that vaccinating "boosters" to those who already have the mumps actually works, or is recommended somewhere?
    They gave the booster to those who had not yet been infected. No point in vaccinating the one who already had it. Less than four percent got the mumps. Did you read the three short paragraphs I posted?

    Everyone aboard the USS Fort McHenry were given a measles, mumps and rubella booster vaccination “out of an abundance of caution,” according to the statement.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-19-2019 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I don't see any source for this picture. It isn't on any NBC site that I can find, nor can I find anybody discussing it. What is the source of this photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I don't see any source for this picture. It isn't on any NBC site that I can find, nor can I find anybody discussing it. What is the source of this photo.
    I find the one on the right but not the one on the left on a stock image site. https://www.shutterstock.com/image-p...ugxFfasvQ-1-40

    Photoshop can be used to add or remove things. The left may have had the measles removed.

    Found an interesting article using the image: https://www.rferl.org/a/are-russian-.../29768471.html

    There are more similar articles. https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/08/24/russi...isinformation/

    Study of the problem: https://ajph.aphapublications.org/do...PH.2018.304567
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-19-2019 at 04:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Booster vaccines were given AFTER the outbreak as a precaution. Vaccines did not cause the outbreak.
    The mumps virus has also made a “comeback” in other settings where younger adults congregate. For example, a naval ship deployed to the Persian Gulf, the USS Fort McHenry, has been unable to come ashore since early January because of a mumps contagion that has devastated its crew—even though the military vaccinates all personnel against the virus and despite the Navy having immediately subjected the crew in question to another MMR booster. News accounts have declined to comment on mumps complications but describe the quarantine as “a morale killer” for crew members who are accustomed to having monthly port calls. Infection control protocols stipulate that the Navy cannot declare the situation “under control” until “50 days after the last affected service member recovers.”
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...-sperm-counts/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Yes, as posted, they were given boosters. After the outbreak started. Link earlier in this thread. It wasn't caused by getting vaccinated.

    The viral infection affected less than 4 percent of the ship’s personnel, Lt. Chloe Morgan with 5th Fleet public affairs wrote in an email about the illnesses.

    When they were symptomatic, the sailors and Marines were quarantined and treated in the ship’s medical facilities, the Navy said. Their living and work areas were also cleaned and disinfected.

    Everyone aboard the USS Fort McHenry were given a measles, mumps and rubella booster vaccination “out of an abundance of caution,” according to the statement.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-19-2019 at 04:12 PM.

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    Last edited by Dr.3D; 04-19-2019 at 04:15 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes, as posted, they were given boosters. After the outbreak started. Link earlier in this thread.
    It is not because of non-vaccinated people that are causing this. These guys were all vaccinated, so it is vaccine failure and shedding that caused it.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    "search for similar images" only shows ones with the measles. Looks like the "clean" or "healthy" image is the Photoshopped one.

    Possible related search: rubella virus
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-19-2019 at 04:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I find the one on the right but not the one on the left on a stock image site. https://www.shutterstock.com/image-p...ugxFfasvQ-1-40

    Photoshop can be used to add or remove things. The left may have had the measles removed.

    Found an interesting article using the image: https://www.rferl.org/a/are-russian-.../29768471.html

    There are more similar articles. https://hub.jhu.edu/2018/08/24/russi...isinformation/

    Study of the problem: https://ajph.aphapublications.org/do...PH.2018.304567
    thanks. i must have been using the wrong search words. I also can't find the picture on the NBC Facebook site.
    Stylistically it does not seem to match what they normally use, either.
    Last edited by angelatc; 04-19-2019 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    thanks. i must have been using the wrong search words.
    I just right clicked on it and asked google to search for similar images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    "search for similar images" only shows ones with the measles. Looks like the "clean" or "healthy" image is the Photoshopped one.
    Look again Zippy..... the ones that say 'Stock' on them are the originals.
    https://www.tineye.com/search/59cd00...ore&order=desc

    Okay, the search has expired.

    Run it again with this picture and see what you get.

    https://www.tineye.com
    https://us.123rf.com/450wm/andriano/...ound.jpg?ver=6
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 04-19-2019 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Look again Zippy..... the ones that say 'Stock' on them are the originals.
    https://www.tineye.com/search/59cd00...ore&order=desc
    The ones at the link have the measles except for one- which does not say "stock photo" on it.

    Link to the original stock image: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-p...0078&utm_term=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    The anti-vaxxers are indirectly claiming the NBC doctored the photo, yet the measles baby version is the one all over the internet so I don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The anti-vaxxers are indirectly claiming the NBC doctored the photo, yet the measles baby version is the one all over the internet so I don't understand.
    The NBC picture seems to be the real one. Somebody created a doctored one to try to discredit it. Read the articles I posted links to earlier.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Sure.
    (no vaccine claims to be 100% effective in all people).

    PLEASE
    say that part again...it was glorious!

    now say this:
    "no vaccine claims to be 100% safe in all people"

    if it isnt SAFE it IS NOT effective


    split up the damn shot! why is that so hard for these dumb muther truckers to figure out?
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post


    Looking closer, both pictures are listed on Photostock by the same artist- Andriano https://www.123rf.com/profile_andriano . With and without spots. That means he was the one who created both and altered the image- not anybody in the media.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-19-2019 at 04:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    PLEASE
    say that part again...it was glorious!

    now say this:
    "no vaccine claims to be 100% safe in all people"

    if it isnt SAFE it IS NOT effective


    split up the damn shot! why is that so hard for these dumb muther truckers to figure out?
    Only in extremely rare circumstances. Drinking water can be hazardous to ones health in the right circumstances as well. Perhaps we should ban or restrict water? "Water is killing people! "
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-19-2019 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Only in extremely rare circumstances. Drinking water can be hazardous to ones health in the right circumstances as well. Perhaps we should ban or restrict water? "Water is killing people! "
    it is in FLINT

    B00M!
    THANK YOU GUBBERMINT!
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    -russian-trolls-
    Got it.

    It is the official answer.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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