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    Bill Weld announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020

    Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020

    (CNN)Former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld announced Monday he is officially entering the race for president, becoming the first Republican to challenge President Donald Trump in the 2020 race.

    "Ours is a nation built on courage, resilience, and independence. In these times of great political strife, when both major parties are entrenched in their 'win at all cost' battles, the voices of the American people are being ignored and our nation is suffering," Weld, who had previously formed an exploratory committee, said in a statement.

    "It is time for patriotic men and women across our great nation to stand and plant a flag. It is time to return to the principles of Lincoln -- equality, dignity, and opportunity for all. There is no greater cause on earth than to preserve what truly makes America great. I am ready to lead that fight."

    In 2016, Weld was the vice presidential nominee on the Libertarian Party ticket with former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson. He previously served two terms as the governor of Massachusetts in the early 1990s.
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    More: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/polit...ump/index.html
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    This guy isn't very bright.
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    Weld's state will be won by bernie .
    Do something Danke

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    Does he not realize hes going to be absolutely destroyed?
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    "It is time for patriotic men and women across our great nation to stand and plant a flag. It is time to return to the principles of Lincoln -- equality, dignity, and opportunity for all. There is no greater cause on earth than to preserve what truly makes America great. I am ready to lead that fight."
    And the American people could use some preservation. But I notice he's no more willing to say that only We, the People have ever Made America Great than Trump is.

    Go home, Weld. No one cares.
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    Better than Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    Trump is not ideal but he is the least of all possible goods
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    Ya , I got my black flag already Weld .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Better than Trump.
    I remain seriously skeptical of anyones ability to pitch that successfully .
    Do something Danke



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    When the guy who backed Evan McMuffin won’t even back you...

    A group of “Never Trump” Republicans led by Weekly Standard founder Bill Kristol have been holding meetings about recruiting a primary challenger against Trump. They have not decided on a potential challenger but do not view Weld as a top recruit.

    Some Republicans remain hopeful that Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) or former Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) will jump into the primary against Trump.

    Still, the effort to deny Trump the GOP nomination would be a long shot, even if the “Never Trump” Republicans land one of their top prospects.

    Kristol led the doomed effort to recruit a conservative challenger in 2016 once it became clear that Trump would win the GOP nomination. At one point, Kristol hoped to recruit former U.S. Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly, who went on to become Trump’s chief of staff.
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-against-trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    When the guy who backed Evan McMuffin won’t even back you...
    I expect Kasich is probably thinking about a senate seat ......
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump is not ideal but he is the least of all possible goods
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    With increasing support from left/Dems since MAGA's pivot to the left, he's pretty strong now even if part of his conservative base is alienated. His political slave masters are likely to spend more money on him this time from the start with his flip flops towards neocons stances and tactful abandoning of Wall project. But that has also exposed his weaknesses , his attacks and tweets are often shrugged by even many of his supporters now, there is a risk for him if a real driven guy with genuine Rand Paul like America-First ideas decided to take on him. Crowd funding is also getting stronger and with guerrilla marketing could take on current neocon masters funding who had hijacked GOP. Won't be too surprised if this became the last term of GOP-neocon wing in US politics.

    Sheldon Adelson signalled in 2015 he’ll bankroll effort to stop Rand Paul... and so he did

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    I don't understand, the RNC has already stated Trump is the GOP candidate for the general election. If the RNC doesn't support a primary, is it all done at the state level?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    When the guy who backed Evan McMuffin won’t even back you...
    LOL. Trump's done everything they want. Why would they want to primary him? Oh yeah, that's right, to keep up the appearance that he's not already 100% owned by the neocons.
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    pffffff....the LIBERTARIAN? sure, throw your vote away...

    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Better than Trump.
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    It's very sad that even M$#@! Republicans like Bill Weld & Mitt are, better than Trump.
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    Trump is not ideal but he is the least of all possible goods
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    It's very sad that even M$#@! Republicans like Bill Weld & Mitt are, better than Trump.
    LOL
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    I don't understand, the RNC has already stated Trump is the GOP candidate for the general election. If the RNC doesn't support a primary, is it all done at the state level?
    Ya I was not expecting a primary but my state can probably put what they want on the ballot . I would expect Weld to get less than 92 votes .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Better than Trump.
    Don't know much about his platform yet but heard he has been only Republican or Libetrian since he was 18, so he may lack some political diversity expereince like MAGA who was Hillary funding democrat for few decades.

    That said, if Weld doesn't get funded by foreign-first neoconservatives like MAGA's top current funder Adelson, he does get some key advantages automatically. Will have to see how he rolls out his campaign. MAGA's attack machine is still fierce but bit bloated now as it now includes some prominent liberals like Dershowitz, Lindsey Graham, Lieberman, various professional hacks and neocons tools at Foxnews minus MASNBC's Morning Joe etc but it no longer has the underdog advantages and smart candidate can take it apart.

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    Anyone wanna bet how long he stays in the race?
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    Lightbulb Ronald Reagan, Bill Weld - True Grit

    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Don't know much about his platform yet but heard he has been only Republican or Libetrian since he was 18, so he may lack some political diversity expereince like MAGA who was Hillary funding democrat for few decades.

    That said, if Weld doesn't get funded by foreign-first neoconservatives like MAGA's top current funder Adelson, he does get some key advantages automatically. Will have to see how he rolls out his campaign. MAGA's attack machine is still fierce but bit bloated now as it now includes some prominent liberals like Dershowitz, Lindsey Graham, Lieberman, various professional hacks and neocons tools at Foxnews minus MASNBC's Morning Joe etc but it no longer has the underdog advantages and smart candidate can take it apart.
    Ronald Reagan was a loser until he beat Bob Dole & Jimmy Carter in '80.

    Because he had True Grit like Bill Weld, and just kept on trying until he won.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump is not ideal but he is the least of all possible goods
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Better than Trump.
    Mitt Romney has I.Q points over Bill Weld. Charlie Baker gladhands

    better than he. If its Trump or Weld, i vote for Weld. Trust me....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Mitt Romney has I.Q points over Bill Weld. Charlie Baker gladhands

    better than he. If its Trump or Weld, i vote for Weld. Trust me....
    More mental diarrhea from Aratus.

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    Duckie....... you really missed me. The stuff Mister BARR took a magic marker to, is about to get real public.
    Duckie..... if there is the whiff of impeachment in the air, you knew i said i'd be back to opine on about 1868.
    Duckie......... i just might write a coffee table book about the literacy level ole Andy Johnson has in adulthood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    More mental diarrhea from Aratus.
    timosman.... Bill Weld is unlike Donald Trump. Weld is too stupid to steal all the gold in Fort Knox. I think Ex-Gov.Weld is very honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    timosman.... Bill Weld is unlike Donald Trump. Weld is too stupid to steal all the gold in Fort Knox. I think Ex-Gov.Weld is very honest.
    I don't think Weld is either stupid or honest. That said, he may still be less terrible than Trump overall. I'm certain that he's closer than Trump to Ron Paul on trade and immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Better than Trump.
    Well, Weld would definitely be the lesser of two evils. Hell, even Bolton or Pompeo is less evil, after all they are just doing what they are told right?
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    Whatever it takes to keep the 2-party duopoly alive. It makes people feel included in the process and discuss issues that have nothing to do with individual liberty and true freedom.

    How many centuries is this now?
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