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Closed border, think Berlin Wall or DMZ, guns and mines unlimited deterrents
Open borders, No limits at all totally open 24/7/365 to anyone.
Status qou
Reform, more visas like a C1G1-B for level 1 criminals and gangbangers
Unlimited immigration, but with cheks for disease,criminal history,income verification
Birthright citizenship, at least one parent must be a US citizen for child to be US Citizen
Limited quota, checks for disease and criminal history.
quota without checks lottery system
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
Or you could let big government protect you and make all of your decisions for you. Now that would be Liberty!
The Swiss do not allow people or towns to allow in people who the country at large do not want, they are not stupid, they allow them to veto people who otherwise would have been allowed in.
Cities or individuals can set their own immigration policy when they secede so that their policy doesn't destroy my liberty and not before, they will however become foreigners and require permission to enter my country themselves.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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That is exactly what the invaders will impose on us:
Illegal Migrants Come Here as Ready-made Democrats — Here’s Why
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
I'll just assume the 4 people who voted for "No limits at all 24/7 open borders" are just trolling/joking.
They probably really would have voted for something more reasonable, like the currently winning option "Closed border, think Berlin Wall or DMZ, guns and mines unlimited deterrents"
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
My pronouns are he/him/his
This makes me think of Chad Elwartowski and Seasteading.
Until the tone changes among the American people, certainly starting with this so-called "liberty" forum turned completely STATIST, the government will continue to impose more and more anti-liberty regulations and restrictions.
It is nobody's business whether one is employed or not, or where to travel.
If a person chooses to travel freely, there should be NO "documentation" papers please, or permission from you, others or government goons.
If you "see something say something" is what many here are promoting, at force by gun, prison, turn around and get out against ones will.
The tone needs to change to eliminate free handouts/welfare, and ONLY convict when an actual crime against others or private property has occurred. This does NOT include manufactured ordinances and regulations to feed the state and line the extortionists pockets.
The FED/Gov has NO right to own public or private land, or even control it; unused land should be homesteaded, the same way Chad attempted to do out in the open seas.
You don't want to shell out free handouts/incentives/welfare? Then start working locally toward that goal. Excuses will NEVER solve the problem or lead to more freedom.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
I'm all for it.
But why I am being told that cannot be done either?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ing-assistance
You open borders guys need to all get on the same page.
This wasn't the US, it was Thailand. Now if they enact anti seasteading policies, what should be done? Bomb them?The FED/Gov has NO right to own public or private land, or even control it; unused land should be homesteaded, the same way Chad attempted to do out in the open seas.
To tell you the honest truth, I can think of a number places on the US coast where he probably would have been successful.
At the very least, the US Coast Guard would not have been threatening him with the death penalty.
That's how upside down this whole idiotic open borders movement has become, where you've got me defending US cops as being relatively level headed.
Last edited by Anti Federalist; 04-22-2019 at 10:30 AM.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
Obviously people will need to pay an arm and a leg to come here illegally otherwise they will just keep coming here. Therefore if you take the arm and leg from them and send them back they won't have any way to walk here again.
Disingenuous Purism. While touting open borders in the spirit of Ron Paul... "What would Ron Paul do?" Exactly... What would he do? They want their cake and eat it too and it is completely economically unsustainable. First and foremost Ron Paul is an economist who's ideology is based on REALITY.
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