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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, how many times should he be allowed to drunkenly dog cuss and rob people before going to jail?

    3?

    5?

    15?

    Never?

    I'm curious.
    Never is the idea, meanwhile zippy will support you or I going to prison for things liberals want to outlaw or not paying property taxes or income taxes.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are concerned with crime............................................T HEY WANT MORE OF IT.


    That's why they are encouraging the invasion from those cultures and why they are pushing for zero punishment of criminals.
    Yes, I realize that, the Bolshies and Jacobins want a police state, even worse that what we have, and they know the way to get is to import a flood of petty crooks, the better to get people agitated for more cops, more surveillance, more jails, and more loss of liberty.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, I realize that, the Bolshies and Jacobins want a police state, even worse that what we have, and they know the way to get is to import a flood of petty crooks, the better to get people agitated for more cops, more surveillance, more jails, and more loss of liberty.
    It will also keep us too busy defending ourselves and too poor to try to fight back.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Never is the idea, meanwhile zippy will support you or I going to prison for things liberals want to outlaw or not paying property taxes or income taxes.
    Well, in a perfect world, the first time he tried that, drunkenly dog cussing and stealing $#@!, the property owner would be protected from legal retribution and give him the ass kicking he deserved.

    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, in a perfect world, the first time he tried that, drunkenly dog cussing and stealing $#@!, the property owner would be protected from legal retribution and give him the ass kicking he deserved.

    And the police would give you a medal.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thefts from cars mostly.

    https://www.apnews.com/4c5e227658e24ce7959719dedce4a1a4

    California's taxpayer funded jail population is about ten percent lower than it was in 2014. They have the 18th lowest incarceration rate in the country and the sixteenth lowest crime rate. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta.../public-safety
    Spare us the ZippyStats (tm).

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's easy to have a low crime rate when you ignore all the crimes.
    That’s how they do it. Don’t even respond for certain crimes. And even if someone wants to push for charges, they can intentionally mess up the paperwork in such a way that they know it will be thrown out by the Judge. No statistics!
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Spare us the ZippyStats (tm).



    That’s how they do it. Don’t even respond for certain crimes. And even if someone wants to push for charges, they can intentionally mess up the paperwork in such a way that they know it will be thrown out by the Judge. No statistics!
    "I can't support my claim so therefore they must be hiding the real facts!"

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is it worth it to spend $31,000 a year (not counting court costs) to keep somebody in jail who stole $200? (average prison inmate costs- in some states it can be $60,000 a year). Meanwhile if not in jail, they could be earning money and paying taxes instead of costing tax dollars.
    So it’s either prison or let criminals off? Sorry, you don’t get to make up the rules. Seems like there used to be other punishments, fines, and restitutions other than jail. Probably still is in rational court rooms. Of course rational thought is not common in a bleeding heart leftist just-us system.
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    "I can't support my claim so therefore they must be hiding the real facts!"
    LOL

    They are caught doing it all the time.
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  12. #40
    Day 2.

    It's eerily quiet outside. I removed a wooden plank from my window to take a peek, there's noone outside. Where people used to run and walk their dogs, there is only wind and silence.

    The left-over mac-n-cheese is almost gone. There's a few canned foods remaining.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    "I can't support my claim so therefore they must be hiding the real facts!"
    I operate in the real world, not your Big Mommy socialist utopia dreamworld. And anyone would be a damn fool to take the #FakeNews or #ZippyStats (tm) at face value.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Day 2.

    It's eerily quiet outside. I removed a wooden plank from my window to take a peek, there's noone outside. Where people used to run and walk their dogs, there is only wind and silence.

    The left-over mac-n-cheese is almost gone. There's a few canned foods remaining.
    It's a trap, don't go outside again for at least two weeks.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Day 2.

    It's eerily quiet outside. I removed a wooden plank from my window to take a peek, there's noone outside. Where people used to run and walk their dogs, there is only wind and silence.

    The left-over mac-n-cheese is almost gone. There's a few canned foods remaining.

  17. #44
    Nothing to see here. Move along, folks.

    Importing criminals, disarmament of the people, and a blind eye to crime... THAT brings down crime! - signed ZipJuan

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Wooden Indian View Post
    Nothing to see here. Move along, folks.

    Importing criminals, disarmament of the people, and a blind eye to crime... THAT brings down crime! - signed ZipJuan
    I see you have borrowed Swordsmyth's guidebook to scaring people on the internet and important key words to use in your discussions.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I see you have borrowed Swordsmyth's guidebook to scaring people on the internet and important key words to use in your discussions.
    LOL

    The truth hurts.
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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    The truth hurts.
    Not real truth. Truth is that immigrants (legal and illegal) are less likely to commit crimes. Though your playbook suggests that claiming otherwise is a good way to make people afraid. https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-im...ssing-evidence

    Fear rules over facts.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-13-2019 at 03:41 PM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Not real truth. Truth is that immigrants (legal and illegal) are less likely to commit crimes. Though your playbook suggests that claiming otherwise is a good way to make people afraid. https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-im...ssing-evidence

    Fear rules over facts.
    Those lies have been debunked many times.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 04-14-2019 at 12:12 AM.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Those lies have been debinked many times.
    Yes, your lies have. But you keep repeating them. Just like the book says you should. Don't let facts get in the way of making a point.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes, your lies have. But you keep repeating them. Just like the book says you should. Don't let facts get in the way of making a point.
    Talking to yourself again?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #51
    The talking point that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than naturalized American citizens is everywhere. It’s hard to find much dissent from the counterintuitive and bogus narrative.
    Those making the claim have found themselves some support from the libertarian right. An oft-cited paper from the Cato Institute found that illegal immigrants make up 6.4% of Texas’ population, but only 5% of their prison population (and thus, they must commit fewer crimes). That conflicts with US Census data from 2011 to 2015 shows that noncitizens are 7% more likely than the US population to be incarcerated in adult correctional facilities.
    Trump's demonization of Latinos is racist, it’s wrong and it also happens to be factually inaccurate. Undocumented Latino immigrants commit fewer crimes in America than the general public.
    — Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) February 9, 2019
    Reading some takes on here, feel it's important to remind everyone that immigrants (both documented and undocumented) are actually less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizenshttps://t.co/4zgX0PmDkr


    — Kat Timpf (@KatTimpf) December 28, 2018
    The explanation can be reduced to sampling bias.
    Cato isn’t taking into account the fact that the post-prison life of native-born American prisons and illegals is radically different, so you can’t infer that illegal aliens are less criminal even if they may be underrepresented in prisons at a particular point in time.

    A native-born criminal will be re-released into American society after serving time, where an illegal will be deported.
    In America the average convict released has 3.9 prior convictions (excluding convictions that didn’t result in jail time). Because illegal immigrants will simply be deported at the end of their sentence (or be deported in lieu of other punishment), the chance of them re-offending is essentially zero (unless they’re to reenter the US). As James Agresti notes:
    Department of Justice data reveals that in the decade ending in 2015, the U.S. deported at least 1.5 million noncitizens who were convicted of committing crimes in the U.S. (Table 41). This amounts to 10 times the number of noncitizens in U.S. adult correctional facilities during 2015.
    A more accurate claim is thus; after deporting millions of criminal illegal aliens, illegal aliens commit fewer crimes at a statistical category. We could flip the stats if we were allowed to deport our criminals to Canada.
    There could also be severe underreporting in illegal immigrant crime that’s committed against other illegals. If most white people in America are killed by other white people, and most blacks killed by other blacks, would it be a stretch to assume that illegals disproportionately commit crimes against other illegals? This is speculative – but unquestionably makes up a chunk of illegal immigrant crimes that go unreported.


    Perhaps that won’t be the case for illegals living in sanctuary cities – which brings me to another factor that naturally leads to underreporting of illegal immigrant crimes. Over 61% of illegal aliens live in just twenty sanctuary cities (compared to 36 % of the overall population that lives in those same cities).
    In 2015, 46% of the violent crimes and 19% of the property crimes reported to police in the US were cleared, according to FBI data. In sanctuary cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles, only about a third of violent crimes are cleared. In the areas that most illegal immigrant crimes would occur, crimes are solved at a lower rate than the national average.
    While illegal aliens do commit more crimes than native-born Americans, it shouldn’t matter to you if they committed crimes at a lower rate. Suppose for the sake of a thought experiment that there was a city of one million people, and an additional one million illegals began living in the city.
    For the sake of this thought experiment, natives are victimized at a rate 85% higher than they were before the influx of illegals, due to increased crime from the illegal share of the population.
    But at the same time, the population of the city increased by 100%, meaning there would be simultaneously more native victims of crime and yet the crime statistics would decrease on a per capita basis.
    It’s worth asking whether victims will notice (or find comfort in knowing) that they were technically being victimized at a lower statistical rate. That seems unlikely.


    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/dont-b...ural-citizens/
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Day 2.

    It's eerily quiet outside. I removed a wooden plank from my window to take a peek, there's noone outside. Where people used to run and walk their dogs, there is only wind and silence.

    The left-over mac-n-cheese is almost gone. There's a few canned foods remaining.
    But many of the potholes are now fixed.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The talking point that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than naturalized American citizens is everywhere. It’s hard to find much dissent from the counterintuitive and bogus narrative.
    Those making the claim have found themselves some support from the libertarian right. An oft-cited paper from the Cato Institute found that illegal immigrants make up 6.4% of Texas’ population, but only 5% of their prison population (and thus, they must commit fewer crimes). That conflicts with US Census data from 2011 to 2015 shows that noncitizens are 7% more likely than the US population to be incarcerated in adult correctional facilities.
    Trump's demonization of Latinos is racist, it’s wrong and it also happens to be factually inaccurate. Undocumented Latino immigrants commit fewer crimes in America than the general public.
    — Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) February 9, 2019
    Reading some takes on here, feel it's important to remind everyone that immigrants (both documented and undocumented) are actually less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizenshttps://t.co/4zgX0PmDkr


    — Kat Timpf (@KatTimpf) December 28, 2018
    The explanation can be reduced to sampling bias.
    Cato isn’t taking into account the fact that the post-prison life of native-born American prisons and illegals is radically different, so you can’t infer that illegal aliens are less criminal even if they may be underrepresented in prisons at a particular point in time.

    A native-born criminal will be re-released into American society after serving time, where an illegal will be deported.
    In America the average convict released has 3.9 prior convictions (excluding convictions that didn’t result in jail time). Because illegal immigrants will simply be deported at the end of their sentence (or be deported in lieu of other punishment), the chance of them re-offending is essentially zero (unless they’re to reenter the US). As James Agresti notes:
    Department of Justice data reveals that in the decade ending in 2015, the U.S. deported at least 1.5 million noncitizens who were convicted of committing crimes in the U.S. (Table 41). This amounts to 10 times the number of noncitizens in U.S. adult correctional facilities during 2015.
    A more accurate claim is thus; after deporting millions of criminal illegal aliens, illegal aliens commit fewer crimes at a statistical category. We could flip the stats if we were allowed to deport our criminals to Canada.
    There could also be severe underreporting in illegal immigrant crime that’s committed against other illegals. If most white people in America are killed by other white people, and most blacks killed by other blacks, would it be a stretch to assume that illegals disproportionately commit crimes against other illegals? This is speculative – but unquestionably makes up a chunk of illegal immigrant crimes that go unreported.


    Perhaps that won’t be the case for illegals living in sanctuary cities – which brings me to another factor that naturally leads to underreporting of illegal immigrant crimes. Over 61% of illegal aliens live in just twenty sanctuary cities (compared to 36 % of the overall population that lives in those same cities).
    In 2015, 46% of the violent crimes and 19% of the property crimes reported to police in the US were cleared, according to FBI data. In sanctuary cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles, only about a third of violent crimes are cleared. In the areas that most illegal immigrant crimes would occur, crimes are solved at a lower rate than the national average.
    While illegal aliens do commit more crimes than native-born Americans, it shouldn’t matter to you if they committed crimes at a lower rate. Suppose for the sake of a thought experiment that there was a city of one million people, and an additional one million illegals began living in the city.
    For the sake of this thought experiment, natives are victimized at a rate 85% higher than they were before the influx of illegals, due to increased crime from the illegal share of the population.
    But at the same time, the population of the city increased by 100%, meaning there would be simultaneously more native victims of crime and yet the crime statistics would decrease on a per capita basis.
    It’s worth asking whether victims will notice (or find comfort in knowing) that they were technically being victimized at a lower statistical rate. That seems unlikely.


    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/dont-b...ural-citizens/

    On that other issue we were talking about earlier, the illegals that are already slated to be released.
    None should be released in America.

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    On that other issue we were talking about earlier, the illegals that are already slated to be released.
    None should be released in America.
    Absolutely but unless Trump is able to defy the courts without being impeached or the laws are changed some will be and they should be sent to Sanctuary cities.
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Absolutely but unless Trump is able to defy the courts without being impeached or the laws are changed some will be and they should be sent to Sanctuary cities.
    Right.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I see you have borrowed Swordsmyth's guidebook to scaring people on the internet and important key words to use in your discussions.
    Are you trying to say that the current leading mouthpieces for leftism in the US are NOT in favor of citizen disarmament?
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...of-cigarettes/



    Twenty years at $30k a year- comes to $600,000 of taxpayer money- a thousand time the value of what he took.
    Spellman reportedly had 14 felony and 31 misdemeanor convictions prior to the cigarette theft, which qualified him as a habitual felony offender.
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  33. #58
    We need more people in jail. One quarter of all prisoners in the world is not enough. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ion-in-the-USA

    More liberty for everybody!

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    We need more people in jail. One quarter of all prisoners in the world is not enough. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ion-in-the-USA

    More liberty for everybody!
    LOL

    We need the right people in jail and everyone else out.
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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  35. #60
    Day 3.

    I heard a noise last night during my shift to keep watch. Likely a roaming homeless stealing from my trash. Since the Declaration to not prosecute these crimes, they are happening more and more frequently.

    Supplies are starting to run out. May have to venture outside soon.
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