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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
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Groucho Marx
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Linus, from the Peanuts comic
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Yes, I realize that, the Bolshies and Jacobins want a police state, even worse that what we have, and they know the way to get is to import a flood of petty crooks, the better to get people agitated for more cops, more surveillance, more jails, and more loss of liberty.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Spare us the ZippyStats (tm).
That’s how they do it. Don’t even respond for certain crimes. And even if someone wants to push for charges, they can intentionally mess up the paperwork in such a way that they know it will be thrown out by the Judge. No statistics!
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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So it’s either prison or let criminals off? Sorry, you don’t get to make up the rules. Seems like there used to be other punishments, fines, and restitutions other than jail. Probably still is in rational court rooms. Of course rational thought is not common in a bleeding heart leftist just-us system.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Day 2.
It's eerily quiet outside. I removed a wooden plank from my window to take a peek, there's noone outside. Where people used to run and walk their dogs, there is only wind and silence.
The left-over mac-n-cheese is almost gone. There's a few canned foods remaining.
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Nothing to see here. Move along, folks.
Importing criminals, disarmament of the people, and a blind eye to crime... THAT brings down crime! - signed ZipJuan
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Not real truth. Truth is that immigrants (legal and illegal) are less likely to commit crimes. Though your playbook suggests that claiming otherwise is a good way to make people afraid. https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-im...ssing-evidence
Fear rules over facts.
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Last edited by Swordsmyth; 04-14-2019 at 12:12 AM.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
The talking point that illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than naturalized American citizens is everywhere. It’s hard to find much dissent from the counterintuitive and bogus narrative.
Those making the claim have found themselves some support from the libertarian right. An oft-cited paper from the Cato Institute found that illegal immigrants make up 6.4% of Texas’ population, but only 5% of their prison population (and thus, they must commit fewer crimes). That conflicts with US Census data from 2011 to 2015 shows that noncitizens are 7% more likely than the US population to be incarcerated in adult correctional facilities.
Trump's demonization of Latinos is racist, it’s wrong and it also happens to be factually inaccurate. Undocumented Latino immigrants commit fewer crimes in America than the general public.
— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) February 9, 2019Reading some takes on here, feel it's important to remind everyone that immigrants (both documented and undocumented) are actually less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizenshttps://t.co/4zgX0PmDkrThe explanation can be reduced to sampling bias.
— Kat Timpf (@KatTimpf) December 28, 2018
Cato isn’t taking into account the fact that the post-prison life of native-born American prisons and illegals is radically different, so you can’t infer that illegal aliens are less criminal even if they may be underrepresented in prisons at a particular point in time.
A native-born criminal will be re-released into American society after serving time, where an illegal will be deported.
In America the average convict released has 3.9 prior convictions (excluding convictions that didn’t result in jail time). Because illegal immigrants will simply be deported at the end of their sentence (or be deported in lieu of other punishment), the chance of them re-offending is essentially zero (unless they’re to reenter the US). As James Agresti notes:
Department of Justice data reveals that in the decade ending in 2015, the U.S. deported at least 1.5 million noncitizens who were convicted of committing crimes in the U.S. (Table 41). This amounts to 10 times the number of noncitizens in U.S. adult correctional facilities during 2015.A more accurate claim is thus; after deporting millions of criminal illegal aliens, illegal aliens commit fewer crimes at a statistical category. We could flip the stats if we were allowed to deport our criminals to Canada.
There could also be severe underreporting in illegal immigrant crime that’s committed against other illegals. If most white people in America are killed by other white people, and most blacks killed by other blacks, would it be a stretch to assume that illegals disproportionately commit crimes against other illegals? This is speculative – but unquestionably makes up a chunk of illegal immigrant crimes that go unreported.
Perhaps that won’t be the case for illegals living in sanctuary cities – which brings me to another factor that naturally leads to underreporting of illegal immigrant crimes. Over 61% of illegal aliens live in just twenty sanctuary cities (compared to 36 % of the overall population that lives in those same cities).
In 2015, 46% of the violent crimes and 19% of the property crimes reported to police in the US were cleared, according to FBI data. In sanctuary cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles, only about a third of violent crimes are cleared. In the areas that most illegal immigrant crimes would occur, crimes are solved at a lower rate than the national average.
While illegal aliens do commit more crimes than native-born Americans, it shouldn’t matter to you if they committed crimes at a lower rate. Suppose for the sake of a thought experiment that there was a city of one million people, and an additional one million illegals began living in the city.
For the sake of this thought experiment, natives are victimized at a rate 85% higher than they were before the influx of illegals, due to increased crime from the illegal share of the population.
But at the same time, the population of the city increased by 100%, meaning there would be simultaneously more native victims of crime and yet the crime statistics would decrease on a per capita basis.
It’s worth asking whether victims will notice (or find comfort in knowing) that they were technically being victimized at a lower statistical rate. That seems unlikely.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/dont-b...ural-citizens/
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Day 3.
I heard a noise last night during my shift to keep watch. Likely a roaming homeless stealing from my trash. Since the Declaration to not prosecute these crimes, they are happening more and more frequently.
Supplies are starting to run out. May have to venture outside soon.
- Kim KardashianIt's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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