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    Dallas Decides to Stop Prosecuting Some Criminal Acts

    Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot is firmly dedicated to ending “mass incarceration” so much so, in fact, that the Democrat is going to let many criminal offenders back onto the streets.
    Creuzot announced on Thursday that his office will be letting criminals off the hook if they commit offenses such as low-level drug possession, theft, and criminal trespass. Law enforcement will be more focused on promoting social justice than protecting property rights under Creuzot’s plan.
    He will also be targeting the bail bonds system and reducing probation sentences. Creuzot does not want criminals to “sit in jail not because they pose an identifiable danger to the community, but because they cannot pay their fee to go home” so they will be let out on the streets instead.
    Marijuana offenders will be among the beneficiaries of the new weak-on-crime approach of the Dallas County criminal justice system. First-time marijuana offenders will not have their misdemeanors prosecuted as long as their offense is committed outside of a drug-free zone. Creuzot has already tossed out more than 1,000 misdemeanor marijuana cases with many more to come.


    Robbers will be shielded by Dallas County too, as individuals who commit a robbery under the threshold of $750 will be let off scot free except in rare circumstances.
    “Study after study shows that when we arrest, jail, and convict people for non-violent crimes committed out of necessity, we only prevent that person from gaining the stability necessary to lead a law-abiding life. Criminalizing poverty is counter-productive for our community’s health and safety,” Creuzot said to justify his push toward lawlessness.
    Under the guise of protecting the homeless and mentally ill, criminal trespass will no longer be prosecuted unless it involves an physical intrusion onto property.
    “Around 90 percent of homeless individuals charged with trespass will receive an average jail sentence of 33 days. These prosecutions are an ineffective and inhumane approach to dealing with homelessness or mental illness, and yet since 2015, Dallas County has spent nearly $11 million just to incarcerate those charged with trespass, not including the costs and resources required to arrest and prosecute their cases,” Creuzot said.

    Creuzot makes it clear that these decisions are far from arbitrary, and he is acting on a strong electoral mandate. The facts bear him out. His Democratic voter base put him into office, in essence, to ignore the law.
    “When I ran to become your District Attorney, I promised you that I would bring changes to our criminal justice system,” Creuzot wrote in a public statement.
    Creuzot defeated his rule-of-law Republican challenger, Faith Johnson, by a commanding 20 point margin during last year’s elections.
    “It’s not wanting to be the district attorney,” Creuzot said after he won the election. “It’s about wanting to implement change.”

    More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/after-...criminal-acts/
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    Robbers will be shielded by Dallas County too, as individuals who commit a robbery under the threshold of $750 will be let off scot free except in rare circumstances.
    “Study after study shows that when we arrest, jail, and convict people for non-violent crimes committed out of necessity, we only prevent that person from gaining the stability necessary to lead a law-abiding life. Criminalizing poverty is counter-productive for our community’s health and safety,” Creuzot said to justify his push toward lawlessness.
    So $750 is the max I can steal per client, got it. I need a lot of stuff out of necessity, need to rob some clients to gain my stability.

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    Criminal drug users not being prosecuted? This is anarchy!!!

    What's next, our roads???
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Criminal drug users not being prosecuted? This is anarchy!!!

    What's next, our roads???
    Every Texican should steal $750 and donate it to a fund to protect the roads.
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    Yikes, looks like I chose the right time to move further west into Tarrant county
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Yikes, looks like I chose the right time to move further west into Tarrant county
    You're very lucky to have gotten out when you did. Now, with these drug users freely roaming the streets it's very dangerous to try to leave the city.

    I'm advising all my neighbors to lock themselves in their homes as much as possible and board up the windows. If one must go outside, it's better to do it when it's dark outside, because in Texas the laws against shooting criminals are much more relaxed at night. In the day time it's really only safe to travel with a police escort.

    It's just chaos outside. I don't know how it came to this. I could really use your prayers during this trying time.

    May God have mercy on our souls.
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    Maybe they should choose to refuse to enforce Unconstitutional Laws? Like the Oathkeepers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Criminal drug users not being prosecuted? This is anarchy!!!

    What's next, our roads???
    "First-time marijuana offenders will not have their misdemeanors prosecuted as long as their offense is committed outside of a drug-free zone."

    Sounds like you guys need to set-up more drug-free zones.
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    Selective application of laws is devolution, they should repeal laws that are un constitutional
    first .

    And fix the potholes.

    Then send in the National Guard to rescue TheTexan , before he's forced to go' vigilante,
    Bronson/Willis etc.....

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    As President, I pledged to work with both parties for the good of the whole nation. And that’s what it is: It’s for the good of the whole nation. And it’s something that is so important to me in terms of this and lots of other things. And it’s happening. Slowly, but surely, it’s all happening.

    The more I met and spoke with those involved in our criminal justice system, the more clear it became that unfair sentencing rules were contributing to the cycle of poverty and crime like really nothing else before. It was time to fix this broken system — and it’s a system of the past — and to improve the lives of so many people.
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...t-celebration/

    In less than four months, more than 500 people with unfair sentences have been released from prison and are free to begin a new life. (Applause.)
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    Robbers will be shielded by Dallas County too, as individuals who commit a robbery under the threshold of $750 will be let off scot free except in rare circumstances.
    LOL. The damn fool didn’t learn from the California experiment with this? Theft skyrockets because there is no longer any penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    LOL. The damn fool didn’t learn from the California experiment with this? Theft skyrockets because there is no longer any penalty.
    Thefts from cars mostly.

    https://www.apnews.com/4c5e227658e24ce7959719dedce4a1a4

    Larcenies increased about 9 percent by 2016, or about 135 more thefts per 100,000 residents than if tougher penalties had remained, according to results of a study by the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California released Tuesday.

    Thefts from motor vehicles accounted for about three-quarters of the increase. San Francisco alone recorded more than 30,000 auto burglaries last year, which authorities largely blamed on gangs. Shoplifting may be leveling off, researchers found, but there is no sign of a decline in thefts from vehicles.

    Proposition 47 lowered criminal sentences for drug possession, theft, shoplifting, identity theft, receiving stolen property, writing bad checks and check forgery from felonies that can bring prison terms to misdemeanors that often bring minimal jail sentences.
    California still has historically low crime rates despite recent changes in the criminal justice system aimed at reducing mass incarceration and increasing rehabilitation and treatment programs, said Lenore Anderson, executive director of Californians for Safety and Justice, who led the drive to pass Proposition 47.

    “This report shows we are making progress,” she said in a statement calling for less spending on prisons and more on programs to help reduce the cycle of crime.
    California's taxpayer funded jail population is about ten percent lower than it was in 2014. They have the 18th lowest incarceration rate in the country and the sixteenth lowest crime rate. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta.../public-safety
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Thefts from cars mostly.

    https://www.apnews.com/4c5e227658e24ce7959719dedce4a1a4





    California's taxpayer funded jail population is about ten percent lower than it was in 2014. They have the 18th lowest incarceration rate in the country and the sixteenth lowest crime rate. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta.../public-safety
    It's easy to have a low crime rate when you ignore all the crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's easy to have a low crime rate when you ignore all the crimes.
    "We need to spend more tax dollars to hire more police (bigger police state) and arrest more people and build more jails and spend even more taxpayer dollars to house them there."

    More key words from your guide book?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    "We need to spend more tax dollars to hire more police (bigger police state) and arrest more people and build more jails and spend even more taxpayer dollars to house them there."

    More key words from your guide book?
    LOL

    We need to get rid of all of the phony crimes and stop coddling real criminals, we could probably reduce our law enforcement and prisons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    "We need to spend more tax dollars to hire more police (bigger police state) and arrest more people and build more jails and spend even more taxpayer dollars to house them there."

    More key words from your guide book?
    Do you think there should be any criminal sanctions for crimes that do have victims?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    We need to get rid of all of the phony crimes and stop coddling real criminals, we could probably reduce our law enforcement and prisons.
    Which are the "phony crimes" and which are the "real crimes"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Which are the "phony crimes" and which are the "real crimes"?
    Drug use is a phony crime, theft is a real one.

    You've been here long enough to know the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Drug use is a phony crime, theft is a real one.

    You've been here long enough to know the idea.
    Is it worth it to spend $31,000 a year (not counting court costs) to keep somebody in jail who stole $200? (average prison inmate costs- in some states it can be $60,000 a year). Meanwhile if not in jail, they could be earning money and paying taxes instead of costing tax dollars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is it worth it to spend $31,000 a year (not counting court costs) to keep somebody in jail who stole $200? (average prison inmate costs- in some states it can be $60,000 a year). Meanwhile if not in jail, they could be earning money and paying taxes instead of costing tax dollars.
    Deport them to Mexico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is it worth it to spend $31,000 a year (not counting court costs) to keep somebody in jail who stole $200? (average prison inmate costs- in some states it can be $60,000 a year). Meanwhile if not in jail, they could be earning money and paying taxes instead of costing tax dollars.
    Or they could be stealing more.

    The exact penalty could be debated but letting them off entirely is insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Is it worth it to spend $31,000 a year (not counting court costs) to keep somebody in jail who stole $200? (average prison inmate costs- in some states it can be $60,000 a year). Meanwhile if not in jail, they could be earning money and paying taxes instead of costing tax dollars.
    Petty theft is not a very big issue in states that have a "gun culture".

    What would you suggest as an alternative "discouragement"?

    Is not a victim of property theft just as "traumatized" if somebody breaks into their property or home, regardless if the steal $100 or $10,000?

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    Lock 'em all up and throw away the key!

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...ds-police-say/

    Florida man charged with felony for stealing a cup of soda from McDonalds, police say

    NAPLES, Fla. - Police say a Naples man remains jailed on felony charges after leaving a McDonald's restaurant without paying for a cup of soda.


    The Naples Daily News reports that after filling a courtesy cup with soda Thursday at the McDonald's soda fountain, Mark Abaire, 52, was arrested by police and now faces a felony thrift charge.

    According to a manager, Abaire entered the store and asked for a glass of water around 10 p.m. Although the employee told him the cup was for water, Abaire filled it with soda from the fountain machine and sat outside the restaurant, an arrest report states.

    Abaire allegedly had a conversation with the manager and declined to pay for the soda, valued at $1. He reportedly refused to leave the premises and cursed at the manager.

    The charge is petty theft, but it was increased to a felony because Abaire has previous petty theft convictions. In Florida, a third-degree felony can result in a sentence of up to five years and a $5,000 fine.

    The newspaper reports Abaire faces additional misdemeanor counts of trespassing and disorderly intoxication.

    On Saturday, he remained in the Collier County jail with bond set at $6,500.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Lock 'em all up and throw away the key!

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...ds-police-say/
    Maybe he should only get a day in jail.


    But he must not be allowed to get away with it, if one person gets away with it others will copy them and they will continue to test the limits while their liberal friends continue to push the limits farther and farther.
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...of-cigarettes/

    Florida man gets 20 years in prison for stealing $600 worth of cigarettes


    PENSACOLA, Fla. — A man who stole $600 worth of cigarettes from a convenience store in Florida has been sentenced to 20 years in state prison. A jury in Pensacola convicted 48-year-old Robert Spellman of burglary and grand theft in August.

    Authorities say Spellman took 10 cartons of cigarettes from a stock room in the store manager's office last December. He was sentenced Friday.

    Police found Spellman nearby with the cigarettes in his possession, the State Attorney's Office told The Pensacola News Journal.
    Twenty years at $30k a year- comes to $600,000 of taxpayer money- a thousand time the value of what he took.


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    And if all of sudden we're concerned about crime, why are we importing people, or more properly, standing by while people invade, from what are universally the most crime prone cities in the world, all of which, outside a few here in the good old USA, are in Central and South America?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_murder_rate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And if all of sudden we're concerned about crime, why are we importing people, or more properly, standing by while people invade, from what are universally the most crime prone cities in the world, all of which, outside a few here in the good old USA, are in Central and South America?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_murder_rate
    They are concerned with crime............................................T HEY WANT MORE OF IT.


    That's why they are encouraging the invasion from those cultures and why they are pushing for zero punishment of criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Lock 'em all up and throw away the key!

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...ds-police-say/
    Well, how many times should he be allowed to drunkenly dog cuss and rob people before going to jail?

    3?

    5?

    15?

    Never?

    I'm curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida...of-cigarettes/



    Twenty years at $30k a year- comes to $600,000 of taxpayer money- a thousand time the value of what he took.
    The exact penalty could be debated but letting them off entirely is insane.
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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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