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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Annnd...under the bus he goes.

    This is Trump at his scummiest
    ...you know god damned well he knows exactly who Assange is and when and where and why he was being hauled off.
    People only have value to Trump when they can help Trump look good. Trump is all that matters.


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  3. #62
    Looks like American liberals still wont accpet that Russia never meddled in America's elections and are now attacking/Claiming Russia owned Wikileaks.
    Chuck Schumer
    Now that Julian Assange has been arrested, I hope he will soon be held to account for his meddling in our elections on behalf of Putin and the Russian government.
    The hacker of the DNC Hillary Witch was one of their own. The hacker only gave the info to wikileaks.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    He is charged with "conspiracy to commit computer intrusion", specifically helping manning crack a password; not anything to do with releasing news or being an agent of the press. IF he really did help manning hack into the computers, then he should get time.
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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    How can they convict him of anything if he does not work for any govt.'s ?
    A fine question. I have to wonder where exactly the DoJ's jurisdiction over a foreign national that (presumably) didn't engage in any hacking comes from. Wasn't Assange's original charge over a rape allegation? The timing of the arrest sorta looks like a side show distraction when there wasn't much drama coming out of DC lately. Gotta keep the circuses going...
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    It'll be funny when Trump lets him go. He'll have willingly imprisoned himself for no reason for 7? years.
    I hope that is how it ends.
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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Why are you always such a $#@!ing tool??
    Speaking of tools, how about this tool who used to think that actions were more important than words?

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    I don't care about speeches, I care about actions
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    I've always said that it is important to judge on actions the administration takes
    What a $#@!ing tool.
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    Trump hasn't even been in 6 months, you can't call him a boondoggle President unless he has overseen a military boondoggle for at least a year or two.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    A fine question. I have to wonder where exactly the DoJ's jurisdiction over a foreign national that (presumably) didn't engage in any hacking comes from. Wasn't Assange's original charge over a rape allegation? The timing of the arrest sorta looks like a side show distraction when there wasn't much drama coming out of DC lately. Gotta keep the circuses going...
    One of the victims is considering re-instating her rape charge. The government dropped the charges when Assange entered the Embassy. The current charge in the US is that he assisted Manning in hacking government computers (though more charges may be added later).

    https://www.npr.org/2019/04/11/71212...sted-in-london

    in March 2010, Assange engaged in a conspiracy with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, to assist Manning in cracking a password stored on U.S. Department of Defense computers connected to ... a U.S. government network used for classified documents and communications.
    Elisabeth Massi Fritz, the lawyer representing the unnamed woman who accused Assange of rape, told NPR by email that she and her client would do everything they can to get the Swedish police to reopen the investigation.

    That case — and fear by Assange that Stockholm might extradite him to the United States if he went to Sweden to address it — prompted him to confine himself in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London.
    His London arrest is for failure to appear in court (he jumped bail and fled to the Argentinian Embassy to escape prosecution). That could lead to a twelve month sentence.


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  10. #68
    Ahh the infamous "conspiracy to" charge. The last refuge of a prosecutor without much evidence.
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  11. #69
    Julian Assange after arrest: ‘I told you so’

    Damn it I already was thinking that while watching your arrest video.

  12. #70
    So do we now get the key to that big 'dead man's switch' data file that was uploaded years ago in the event of his arrest?
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So do we now get the key to that big 'dead man's switch' data file that was uploaded years ago in the event of his arrest?
    It's Alex Jones's stash of tranny porn.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So do we now get the key to that big 'dead man's switch' data file that was uploaded years ago in the event of his arrest?
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/julia...surance-files/

    What Happened to Julian Assange’s Dead Man’s Switch for the WikiLeaks Insurance Files?

    Now that Julian Assange has been arrested in London after seven years in exile at the Ecuadorian embassy, many are wondering if anything will happen with the “dead man’s switch” that Assange and WikiLeaks have talked about in the past. Read on for more details about the dead man’s switch, its history, and what we know so far about the insurance files.

    Assange is accused of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer, related to Chelsea Manning’s release of classified data in 2010, according to the U.S. Department of Justice for the Eastern District of Virginia. The arrest happened shortly after Ecuadorian President Lenín Moreno withdrew Assange’s asylum.

    Assange now faces extradition to the United States, but his lawyer has vowed to fight extradition, AP reported. When Assange appeared in Westminster Magistrate’s Court, District Judge Michael Snow found him guilty of breaking his bail conditions, saying that Assange was a “narcissist who cannot get beyond his own selfish interests.” Assange’s next court appearance will be May 2 via a prison video-link, where he will face an extradition hearing. Another extradition hearing is scheduled for June 12.

    What’s still unclear at this time is what might happen with the dead man’s switch that Assange has talked about in the past. WikiLeaks has released numerous insurance files as a type of “deadman’s switch.” Downloaders get an encryption key, but they need a second one before they can actually unlock the file. The insurance files operate as a type of backup. If anything happens to WikiLeaks, the second key is released, giving everyone access to the file, according to comments WikiLeaks and Assange have made in the past. However, these are typically insurance files to ensure that a pending publication is actually released. It’s unclear how many (if any) are actually related to Julian Assange’s safety or WikiLeaks’ existence in general.

    Insurance files have been released by WikiLeaks multiple times. One of those insurance files was released in June 2016:



    The June 2016 dead man’s switch was the subject of a lot of speculation in late 2016 when rumors had spread that Julian Assange was no longer alive and people wanted proof of life. A tweet by WikiLeaks in October 2016 revived those rumors, as some mistakenly believed that the following tweet was connected to the dead man’s switch.

    However, as Gizmodo reported, the pre-commitment wording above meant the codes provided proof that related documents hadn’t been tampered with. They weren’t actually dead man’s switches, but digital fingerprints of upcoming releases. So if you see a pre-commitment tweet, that is not a dead man’s switch or a means to decrypt an insurance file.

    A file that is genuinely a dead man’s switch is typically labeled “insurance” in a WikiLeaks tweet, such as what the June 17, 2016 tweet above shows. These need a second decryption key to open. That decryption key is the dead man’s switch that people are waiting on.

    Let’s look at the June 19, 2016 file for more details on how that works. The June 19, 2016 insurance filed was just called “WIKILEAKS INSURANCE” but some wondered at the time if it was a deadman’s switch connected to Hillary Clinton somehow. It’s important to point out that this particular encrypted file was going to be released if WikiLeaks was prevented from releasing planned publications connected to the 2016 election, which they did release.
    So it’s unclear how many of the insurance files that WikiLeaks has tweeted before are actually dead man switches in case something happens to Assange or WikiLeaks itself. A story by Wired in 2011 indicated that at least some are insurance files just for this purpose, however. Daniel Domscheit-Berg wrote a book called Inside WikiLeaks, talking about how he and a WikiLeaks programmer had seized their submission system and some documents that were there at the time. In the article, Domscheit-Berg said he didn’t know what was in an encrypted WikiLeaks file that was posted to the site that previous July. The file had been sent to politicians, journalists, and others. According to Wired, WikiLeaks planned to distribute a password for that file if anything “grave” happened to WikiLeaks staff or if anyone tried to take down WikiLeaks. Domscheit-Berg thought this included Assange losing a legal battle, according to Wired.
    More at link.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-11-2019 at 02:25 PM.


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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    So do we now get the key to that big 'dead man's switch' data file that was uploaded years ago in the event of his arrest?
    I had "blank" files on an old hard drive..

    May have to see if any have opened.
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  17. #74
    Maybe the "dead man" files have already been released. Or maybe it was just a bluff. Maybe those secret 8 gb or whatever files were cat pictures or porn.

    https://newspunch.com/julian-assange...tch-wikileaks/

    From October, 2016:

    Assange Missing, Presumed Dead As WikiLeaks Open Huge Archive

    An enormous directory of secret files has been opened to the public on the WikiLeaks website sparking fears Julian Assange’s dead man’s switch has been activated, meaning he is either detained or dead.

    The silently released files contain top-secret information from all corners of the globe including hundreds of files relating to the US military, the Kremlin, Israel, Royal families, Scientology, secret societies, multinational corporations, and even a zip file named Steve Jobs HIV.

    In a display of grim humor, every file and folder has been timestamped 01.01.1984.

    In the past WikiLeaks has made known the existence of a Julian Assange dead man’s switch. Essentially a means of discouraging his assassination, an enormous trove of secrets will be automatically published if Assange is detained or dead.

    Unlike usual WikiLeaks releases, the official twitter account has not mentioned the opening of the folder to the public, heightening suspicions it was an automatic release.

    Fears about Julian Assange’s safety have been growing since Sunday when the US government leaned on Ecuador to cut the WikiLeak founder’s internet access. The following day an unusual series of cryptic tweets was released by WikiLeaks, prompting fears the dead man’s switch had been activated.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-11-2019 at 02:36 PM.


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  18. #75
    Meanwhile , the much bigger threat to America (Hillary) walks free, guilty of Espionage
    and probably murder.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Annnd...under the bus he goes.

    This is Trump at his scummiest...you know god damned well he knows exactly who Assange is and when and where and why he was being hauled off.

    I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised. And I doubt you are either, thogh there no doubt are a few gullible idiots around for whom this will come as a tremedous shock.
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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised. And I doubt you are either, thogh there no doubt are a few gullible idiots around for whom this will come as a tremedous shock.
    I confess I am a gullible idiot.

    I am also very much enjoying the show.

    According to a little bird, this was always the plan. Namely, clean up the DOJ, start the formal investigations into the DS and Clinton email/ Russian hoax, and then bring in JA to drop the hammer during testimony and on the record.

    Best timeline ever.

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  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised. And I doubt you are either, thogh there no doubt are a few gullible idiots around for whom this will come as a tremedous shock.
    The people you're thinking of won't be shocked, because they don't believe it. They believe that Trump is up to something awesome, where he arrested Assange because he knows he'll be acquitted, and if not, then he'll pardon him, just like when he ordered his ATF to ban bump stocks so that the courts could overturn the ban, and the time he really did make Mexico pay for the wall by renegotiating a trade deal with them, and the time a Congress in 2019 wouldn't appropriate money for his wall so he performed a bona fide magic trick and got a Congress in 1976 to appropriate it.

    They actually think this way. Trump and his clerics like Q, and Molyneaux, and Alex Jones have their lemmings so mesmerized and cognitively dissonant that they will say anything to defend him.

    And when they do see Trump lie through his teeth, they cheer him on and beam with pride over how he's running circles around his rivals with his marvelous tricks.

    To the resident Trump-lemmings here, feel free to prove me wrong and take this opportunity to bash your slime ball hero.
    Last edited by Superfluous Man; 04-11-2019 at 03:05 PM.

  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised. And I doubt you are either, thogh there no doubt are a few gullible idiots around for whom this will come as a tremedous shock.
    No...not at all.

    Whatever my slight praise of him when he does the right thing, accidentally or deliberately, does not cover the fact that I think he is pretty much a reprobate of a human being, especially when it comes to bull$#@! like this. If there is one thing that chaps my ass more than anything else, it is for some $#@! to try and tell me "it's raining" when they are clearly pissing on my head.

    Sadly, being true, moral, upright and upstanding gets you nowhere in AmeriKa these days...just ask Ron.

  23. #80
    Gullible idiot Here. Actually, I would like to look at it more like optimistic rather than gullible. Lots of negative nay-bobs who are quite gullible to the fake news too.

    I pray our country heals and the truth come to light.
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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Gullible idiot Here. Actually, I would like to look at it more like optimistic rather than gullible. Lots of negative nay-bobs who are quite gullible to the fake news too.

    I pray our country heals and the truth come to light.
    The fact that Assange has survived and is making it to the US is the worst news for Hillary (who one time opined about droning him) and GREAT news that the plan is working. He is and will be remembered as a hero who, together with Trump, brought down much of the DS.

    Let them call you names donnay! It makes the show even more funny actually!
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  26. #82
    Trump's comments today are about as disgusting as you could possibly imagine.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by kona View Post
    Trump's comments today are about as disgusting as you could possibly imagine.
    What did he say?

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  29. #85
    What is wrong with saying he knows nothing about Wikileaks? He probably means that he knows of Julian Assange and of Wikileaks but knows nothing about charges or what the Attorney General has in the works. I could own a Stanley Works tool but not know anything about Stanley Works.

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    What is wrong with saying he knows nothing about Wikileaks? He probably means that he knows of Julian Assange and of Wikileaks but knows nothing about charges or what the Attorney General has in the works. I could own a Stanley Works tool but not know anything about Stanley Works.
    In the debates he quoted WikiLeaks like it was scripture he said he loved WikiLeaks and hated the fake news. He should have a better opinion than no opinion.

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    In the debates he quoted WikiLeaks like it was scripture he said he loved WikiLeaks and hated the fake news. He should have a better opinion than no opinion.
    There wasn't an indictment during that time. Different things are different. At that time, Trump viewed Assange like the rest of us, a journalist and WikiLeaks a protected publisher. Now there is an indictment of Assange by Trumps own administration. If it is true he helped Manning break into a government system, that does change things for me as well, he's no longer just a journalist immune from prosecution. Manning had to face our court system, seems like Assange will as well.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    What is wrong with saying he knows nothing about Wikileaks? He probably means that he knows of Julian Assange and of Wikileaks but knows nothing about charges or what the Attorney General has in the works. I could own a Stanley Works tool but not know anything about Stanley Works.
    Wikileaks has outlived its usefulness for Trump. They can be tossed aside now. "Never heard of them".



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    There wasn't an indictment during that time. Different things are different. At that time, Trump viewed Assange like the rest of us, a journalist and WikiLeaks a protected publisher. Now there is an indictment of Assange by Trumps own administration. If it is true he helped Manning break into a government system, that does change things for me as well, he's no longer just a journalist immune from prosecution. Manning had to face our court system, seems like Assange will as well.
    What a bunch of balderdash.

    Manning is another hero. The dirty, lying, corrupt, rogue government filled with psychopaths now led by a idiotic, egotistical liar is the criminal and has been for years.

    Doesn't Ron Paul count for anything anymore?



    When do the killers "have to face our court system"?



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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    What is wrong with saying he knows nothing about Wikileaks? He probably means that he knows of Julian Assange and of Wikileaks but knows nothing about charges or what the Attorney General has in the works. I could own a Stanley Works tool but not know anything about Stanley Works.
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