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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Or
    lots of things are toxic only in very high doses. eg: nicotine is toxic in very high dosages
    It could just be that in the race to make the most potent marijuana, some strains have reached a level where the dosage of THC or something else is so high that it is becoming toxic to some people. I
    No Nicotine is Toxic at any dose.. The effects are that of a Toxin,, as is alcohol.

    Cannabis is Non Toxic.. as it has no toxin ,,in or about it. Non_Toxic..

    Many Toxins are beneficial in limited doses. Or otherwise gratifying..

    Cannabis is NOT Toxic.. Never has been.. ALL of the Negative information was a Reefer Madness Lie.

    People are simply trying to justify that lie still...
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Or
    lots of things are toxic only in very high doses. eg: nicotine is toxic in very high dosages
    It could just be that in the race to make the most potent marijuana, some strains have reached a level where the dosage of THC or something else is so high that it is becoming toxic to some people. I
    If it were toxic, it would kill you if you had enough of it. The LD50 (lethal dose) for THC is some insane amount that couldn't be consumed by a human (or at least never has). I've seen enough people consume enough cannabis to know that none of it has any toxic effects.
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  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    If it were toxic, it would kill you if you had enough of it. The LD50 (lethal dose) for THC is some insane amount that couldn't be consumed by a human (or at least never has). I've seen enough people consume enough cannabis to know that none of it has any toxic effects.
    So it can kill you, so it is toxic. You just said so yourself. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the subject.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Cannabis makes it difficult to lie to yourself. Mushrooms make it impossible. People who have panic attacks on herb or mushrooms are being dishonest with themselves about something, they are having a hard time facing reality, and so they go into panic mode. Facing reality is really the only way to overcome whatever difficulties they have been trying to ignore, and the panic attack is a natural way to deal with it. But they need to go through it, they need to face it. They don't need to go to the hospital.

    These are precisely the type of reactions that help people move on in their life and become better people. Panic attacks are not a negative side effect of herb, it is a healing mechanism.
    ...
    Brought to you by the makers of Xanax and the new marijuana industry lobby.

    So what everyone else would call a negative side effect, bad trip, tripping out, paranoia or freak out, you call a healing experience. And so you tell everyone that there is nothing negative about pot.

    Ok. So the guy in the video who became a hard core pot user, finally got past the bad reaction, then went off it, going through mental withdrawals, and then went back on again and experienced those same initial panic side effects again just never smoked enough? He must have somehow missed out on that “healing” part. He has videos on mushrooms and DMT too, not like he avoided any of them.
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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Brought to you by the makers of Xanax and the new marijuana industry lobby.

    So what everyone else would call a negative side effect, bad trip, tripping out, paranoia or freak out, you call a healing experience. And so you tell everyone that there is nothing negative about pot.

    Ok. So the guy in the video who became a hard core pot user, finally got past the bad reaction, then went off it, going through mental withdrawals, and then went back on again and experienced those same initial panic side effects again just never smoked enough? He must have somehow missed out on that “healing” part. He has videos on mushrooms and DMT too, not like he avoided any of them.

    Clearly there is something in his life he doesn't want to deal with, and so instead of dealing with it he blames cannabis and distracts himself by starting an anti-cannabis crusade.

    I've had anxiety with mushrooms and cannabis, but instead of blaming cannabis, I decided to deal with what the stress was over. You have to have something to be stressed out over for cannabis to cause stress. It also taught me how to better deal with stress itself. I don't think Xanax does any of that, it makes your mind do the opposite and turn off. Cannabis turns your mind on and helps you tap into things better.

    You are right, he probably didn't smoke enough. He also might need some honest people around him who can help guide him toward being a better person.
    Last edited by dannno; 04-10-2019 at 04:00 PM.
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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    So it can kill you, so it is toxic. You just said so yourself. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the subject.
    If a Bale of it fell,, crushing you..
    otherwise NON Toxic.. Non toxic in any consumable amount.

    It is less toxic than Water.
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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    We'll just have to agree to disagree on the subject.
    Doesn't matter what we agree on, cause either way you are wrong.

    It's Easier To Die from Drinking Too Much Water Than Smoking Too Much Pot
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    If you want to put everything in the category of "toxic" then I guess we should just sit in one place, not consumed anything, and die.

    The fact is herb is healthful, it helps people live healthier lives - mentally, physically, etc.
    Last edited by dannno; 04-10-2019 at 04:10 PM.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Doesn't matter what we agree on, cause either way you are wrong.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rosspom.../#38a1dcd5f374


    If you want to put everything in the category of "toxic" then I guess we should just sit in one place, not consumed anything, and die.

    The fact is herb is healthful, it helps people live healthier lives - mentally, physically, etc.
    The Plant is a Gift from God..
    No other single plant is more useful.. for Food, Housing and industry and medicine.

    The only harm ever caused was by Prohibition.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Get your eyes checked:

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    Let’s hope SB119 passes the House.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Let's make tobacco legal again.
    I’m standing outside and some do-gooder says “hey, can’t you read, there’s a sign over there that says no smoking”.

    So I take a drag and say “thanks for the info”.

    There’s a few biker bars I go to that allow smoking inside, fortunately they got great wings.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmastersexsay View Post
    I've only seen him go on about it twice, but I don't watch him that often. I only noticed it because his show came up after a few YouTube videos auto played. I would assume he has mentioned it more than that.

    Once is enough for me to understand he is not liberty minded or not allowed to be, both equally bad for someone with so much influence.
    I've been trying to pull my husband back from a devastating fall into the sewer of libtardism so got him watch Tucker a couple of times. My husband is a weed smoker and grower and has zero tolerance for anyone saying anything bad about it. Wouldn't you know it, the TWO times I get him to watch, Tucker goes off on his bizarre anti marijuana thing! Oh, man, I was so bummed out. Now he hates Tucker.

    What Swordsmyth said is right. You will never find anyone whose inner universe mirrors your own. Tucker is very pro liberty but just has this hang up about weed. It's far more important that he's relentless on the issue of freedom of thought and speech.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    I've been trying to pull my husband back from a devastating fall into the sewer of libtardism so got him watch Tucker a couple of times. My husband is a weed smoker and grower and has zero tolerance for anyone saying anything bad about it. Wouldn't you know it, the TWO times I get him to watch, Tucker goes off on his bizarre anti marijuana thing! Oh, man, I was so bummed out. Now he hates Tucker.

    What Swordsmyth said is right. You will never find anyone whose inner universe mirrors your own. Tucker is very pro liberty but just has this hang up about weed. It's far more important that he's relentless on the issue of freedom of thought and speech.
    Wow, that's really a shame.. it's not a topic he discusses very often.
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wow, that's really a shame.. it's not a topic he discusses very often.
    Isn't it? What are the odds? SMH.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Clearly there is something in his life he doesn't want to deal with, and so instead of dealing with it he blames cannabis and distracts himself by starting an anti-cannabis crusade.

    I've had anxiety with mushrooms and cannabis, but instead of blaming cannabis, I decided to deal with what the stress was over. You have to have something to be stressed out over for cannabis to cause stress. It also taught me how to better deal with stress itself. I don't think Xanax does any of that, it makes your mind do the opposite and turn off. Cannabis turns your mind on and helps you tap into things better.
    Nothing better in the drug trade than selling a drug with side effects, and then selling a drug that’s supposed to help with the side effects. Dr. DrugDealer: “Too much pot causing anxiety? Here’s a prescription for Xanax to go with the pot.”

    You are right, he probably didn't smoke enough. He also might need some honest people around him who can help guide him toward being a better person.
    Apparently he tried everything. You may be right, he probably should have taken more acid, then he would be on the path to total clarity and health.
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  19. #76
    Well, damn, Tucker did it again, tonight.

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Nothing better in the drug trade than selling a drug with side effects, and then selling a drug that’s supposed to help with the side effects. Dr. DrugDealer: “Too much pot causing anxiety? Here’s a prescription for Xanax to go with the pot.”



    Apparently he tried everything. You may be right, he probably should have taken more acid, then he would be on the path to total clarity and health.
    Brian, no matter how you feel or what you think about it, it's a damn plant and people have the right to do with their bodies as they please, dontcha think? IMHO, the cult of marijuana is crazy (and I've smoked a lot of it). It's like snake oil that cures everything for the devotee. Some people love it and it's ridiculous for it to be illegal. It's not some nasty, artificial chemical concoction like meth. It's catnip for people, lol.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Let's make tobacco legal again.
    Amen,,
    And dump the Nazi Pseudoscience that all anti-smoking campaigns are based on,, in the dung heap of forgotten history.

    this started in 1930s Germany.. and is still spreading.
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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    Apparently he tried everything. You may be right, he probably should have taken more acid, then he would be on the path to total clarity and health.
    Perhaps so..
    it is a Great Tool. more like a key.

    It was developed to break addiction,, and had good success treating alcoholism.

    I have used it recreationaly,, and introspectively.

    and save for a few writers,, more FUD has been spread about it , than any other substance than weed.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    So it can kill you, so it is toxic. You just said so yourself. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the subject.
    Peanuts are toxic.



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  25. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    Brian, no matter how you feel or what you think about it, it's a damn plant and people have the right to do with their bodies as they please, dontcha think? IMHO, the cult of marijuana is crazy (and I've smoked a lot of it). It's like snake oil that cures everything for the devotee. Some people love it and it's ridiculous for it to be illegal. It's not some nasty, artificial chemical concoction like meth. It's catnip for people, lol.
    Of course, people have that right. Have I ever said anything to the contrary?

    On the other hand, do parents have the right to tell their kids not to use drugs, and to punish them if they do? Do people have the right to tell other people their opinion about things?
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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Of course, people have that right. Have I ever said anything to the contrary?

    On the other hand, do parents have the right to tell their kids not to use drugs, and to punish them if they do? Do people have the right to tell other people their opinion about things?
    Why would parents do that unless they had been inspired so..??

    And why would parents deny a healthy and beneficial food?
    unless they had been falsely taught is was harmful.

    For years people thought the Tomato (Poison Apple) was deadly.

    yes,, Brian, people have the right to be as abjectly stupid as they wish.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  27. #83
    I used to think I wanted pot to be legal. I don't know which is worse government or cartels being in control of it. It is not legal in my state so I guess the cartel have more control in my state over it than the government. I suppose our legislators are making good money off the cartel by keeping it illegal here.

    At any rate I don't care if Carson is against it or not. He has a right to kiss the cartels ass if he wants to.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Of course, people have that right. Have I ever said anything to the contrary?

    On the other hand, do parents have the right to tell their kids not to use drugs, and to punish them if they do? Do people have the right to tell other people their opinion about things?
    Agreed, all the way around.

  29. #85
    If the Government makes everything illegal, it can regulate
    everything and tax everything.

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    If the Government makes everything illegal, it can regulate
    everything and tax everything.
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  31. #87
    I’m not sure anyone knows what is in pot bought on the street. Legalization might be one more ploy so government can regulate and put whatever specs on it they want.
    Do something Dodgers.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    I’m not sure anyone knows what is in pot bought on the street.
    Pot,,occasionally a little dirt.

    Depends on how close to the farm it is.

    Used to transport Pounds around the country.. It was Pot when I got it and it was pot when I delivered it..
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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Pot,,occasionally a little dirt.

    Depends on how close to the farm it is.

    Used to transport Pounds around the country.. It was Pot when I got it and it was pot when I delivered it..
    They found humans feces in it in Spain recently.
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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They found humans feces in it in Spain recently.
    I never got any from Spain.

    Jamaica and Mexico and Columbia were usual
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