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    3 23.08%
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Thread: Thank You Deep State !

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    And thank you Netanyahu too (regardless if if he loses or wins election today) , he said some very nice things about MAGA few days ago after MAGA's historic Golan Heights move few days before Mueller report was outed.

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    LOL
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    I'm a little confused.

    Let's say I lived in a state where cannabis was illegal.

    Let's say I drove down the street smoking a rolled tobacco cigarette that looked like a joint.

    Let's say a cop pulled me over.

    Let's say I threw the cigarette out the window.

    Let's say it is not a crime to throw cigarettes out the window in this state.

    Let's say the cop was able to charge me with obstruction of justice because I threw what looked like a joint out of the window.

    Would those charges still hold if it turns out the joint was actually a cigarette, and I didn't do anything illegal?

    I'm just curious how, or why, if Trump is exonerated of conspiring with Russia, he could obstruct justice? If you don't commit a crime in the first place, how can you possibly obstruct justice?

    I mean, let's say you had a witness in the car who saw you throw the cigarette out the window. Let's say you told them if they don't testify that it was a cigarette, that you are going to slap them upside the head. Is that tampering with a witness? If you tell a witness to tell the truth and there was no crime committed?

    It just seems like the only reason to go after Trump for obstruction of justice would be if you dislike Trump and want to see him out of office.
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    Some on Mueller’s Team Say Report Was More Damaging Than Barr Revealed

    [IMG]https://static01.********/images/2019/04/02/us/politics/03dc-mueller/02dc-mueller-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upsc ale[/IMG]
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/03/u...er-report.html








    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Israel First is not MAGA.
    Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel

    Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'





    Granted both current AG and Deputy AG are 'Israeli'*, that doesn't prove that that influenced MAGA's recent historc pro Israel policy decisions. There may be a more benign explanation , those policy decsions may have been motivated by his 'Israeli'* top funder or Israeli'* son-in-law & daughter as happened in case of US tax payers funded Syria bombing few months back.


    [IMG]https://static01.********/images/2019/04/02/us/politics/03dc-mueller/02dc-mueller-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upsc ale[/IMG]
    'Israeli'* AG Barr who cleared MAGA after reading Mueller Report






    'Israeli'* Deputy AG Rosenstein who oversaw Mueller investigation





    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I...
    It just seems like the only reason to go after Trump for obstruction of justice would be if you dislike Trump and want to see him out of office.
    You raise a good point.

    As Deep State did not allow OoJ charge to go forward, it could mean DS no longer dislikes MAGA going by this argument. For which America-First movement should be thankful perhaps?







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    America-First Bush's 'Mexican'* AG Gonzales who oversaw Iraq Abu-Ghraib prison non-torture decisions





    * According to MAGA's 'Mexican Judge' Heritagometer (both current AG Barr and Deputy AG Rosenstein have Jewish heritage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Israel First is not MAGA.
    Isn't the whole meaning of MAGA to support everything Trump does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Isn't the whole meaning of MAGA to support everything Trump does?
    Make Americans Groupies Again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't vote for Trump.
    A POX ON BOTH YOUR PARTIES



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    See, this is why you don't play games with liberals. Even if you prove them wrong, they will pick apart your evidence and find a way to make you look bad. There's always something. More than enough time has been wasted on this witch hunt. The left should either grow up or shut up. TLDR: Hillary lost. Get over it.
    Last edited by nobody's_hero; 04-10-2019 at 12:35 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Elliot's The Hollow Men

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    See, this is why you don't play games with liberals. Even if you prove them wrong, they will pick apart your evidence and find a way to make you look bad. There's always something. More than enough time has been wasted on this witch hunt. The left should either grow up or shut up. TLDR: Hillary lost. Get over it.
    Get over it. Move on. Remember when that was the Democrat talking point mantra? So popular, they created an organization with that name...
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  13. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Isn't the whole meaning of MAGA to support everything Trump does?
    Wut?

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    I have a strict policy of OG , make Oyarde greater . If america gets to come along OK that would be nice , I have been doing pretty well considering it is in decline ........ I voted Other of course , but I did vote .
    Last edited by oyarde; 04-10-2019 at 06:01 PM.
    Do something Danke

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    another sht post by ED.

    Obstruction of Justice is just as fake as Russia Collusion Delusion proved to be.

    Obstruction was the Democrats' backup plan and fools like Ehanced_Deficit (and TDS leftists) have been falling for it since day 1.
    Last edited by eleganz; 04-10-2019 at 06:33 PM.
    Rand Paul : Ultimately, if someone's going to accuse you of something that's going to bring down a presidency, I think we deserve to know who that person is.
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What a grotesque embarrassment Rand has become
    Ron Paul : If you're accused of a crime, you have the right to face your accuser.
    So if Rand Paul holds the same exact position as his father, it makes him embarrassing?

    Hmmm...ok r3volution 3.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    See, this is why you don't play games with liberals. Even if you prove them wrong, they will pick apart your evidence and find a way to make you look bad. There's always something. More than enough time has been wasted on this witch hunt. The left should either grow up or shut up. TLDR: Hillary lost. Get over it.
    To be fair Neoconservatives win could be temporary too and go by way of Bush-Cheney wins that was also not accepted by Left.

    But would agree that Left should accept reality on the ground.

    For time being , neoconservatives winning streak continues:

    WikiLeaks‏@wikileaks · 2 min.
    Assange has been arrested in relation to a US extradition request for "conspiracy with Chelsea Manning" for publishing Iraq War Logs, Cablegate, Afghan War Logs, precisely the persecution for which he was granted asylum under the 1951 Refugee Convention in 2012. @unhumanrights
    Julian Assange Arrested on U.S. Extradition Warrant, London Police Say

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    On a historic side note:

    Ex-judge to probe Iraq-loan scandal Barr's appointee assailed as 'fig leaf'


    Lyle Denniston THE BALTIMORE SUN
    October 17, 1992

    WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration's top legal official named a former federal judge yesterday to probe possible government wrongdoing in the scandal over billions of dollars in illegal loans to Iraq in the years before the Persian Gulf war.
    Attorney General William P. Barr continued to resist demands by Democrats in Congress that he hand the entire affair over to a special prosecutor outside the Justice Department, choosing instead to keep the probe within the department for the time being.

    The move did next to nothing to satisfy Capitol Hill critics of the administration's handling of the bank fraud scandal. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jack Brooks, D-Texas, for example, denounced Mr. Barr's new appointee as "a fig leaf of an investigator." More mildly, Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy, D-Vt., said the action "does not go far enough."

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs...005-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    To be fair Neoconservatives win could be temporary too and go by way of Bush-Cheney wins that was also not accepted by Left.

    But would agree that Left should accept reality on the ground.

    For time being , neoconservatives winning streak continues:



    Julian Assange Arrested on U.S. Extradition Warrant, London Police Say
    Why are you talking about leftists and neocons like they are two different groups?
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Elliot's The Hollow Men



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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Why are you talking about leftists and neocons like they are two different groups?
    Well many neocons or their puppets ( Lindsey Graham, Hannity, Levine, Dershowitz, Kushner, Ivanka, Sheldon Adelson, Trump, Bolton, Pompeo, Foxnews etc) these days have been advertizing as being aligned with the "Right" or being part of the "Right". To avoid left/right mixup, just used the more accurate term that everyone understands. In many cases, 'neoconservatism' mindset transcends Left/Right label.

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    And it's still an improvement.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And it's still an improvement.
    Wait, are you agreeing with message of that controversial meme?

    Did you happen to see Bush-Cheney also as M-words?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Wait, are you agreeing with message of that controversial meme?
    No, I am stipulating to it to make a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Did you happen to see Bush-Cheney also as M-words?
    Much worse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Withdrawing that 'thank you', it appears Deep State is making a U-Turn again:


    Drudge headline on falling MAGA approval links it to Mueller Report
    It's not just Drudge , even liberal-neocon outlet like NYT is pushing unprecedented anti-MAGA narratives suddenly surprsing even many liberals and Republicans:

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6789230

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    According to Stephen Bannon who has been spinning elections for the SCL Group using an endless array of fake news and conspiracy theories, the “deep state” is only used for “nut cases”: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...piracy-theory/

    How “deep” does this rabbit hole really go?!?

    Earlier this week the liars of Project Veritas accused the Trump crony president of CNN worldwide, Jeff Zucker, of manipulating the news...

    This is of course true, but it´s strange that the CNN that has supported Donald Trump´s presidential campaign even before others took it seriously, is now accused of being against poor Donald: https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...1038&start=130

    See Jeff Zucker's wife, Caryn Stephanie Nathanson (front right), with Trump´s longtime friend Ghislaine Maxwell (left) at Holly Peterson´s HIM book party, with Epstein´s and Trump´s friend Barbara Walters in the background on the right, New York, 2 April 2014.
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    In the following video Alex Jones claims people are “getting out”, “globalism” is “falling”. And that European leaders are asking him to help run major “psy-op operations”.
    Joe Rogan also worked for the CIA?
    Alex Jones also tells that he was working with the “good elements” in the CIA to get Donald Trump elected president.
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