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    Thumbs up POTUS to pursue an aggressive executive crackdown on immigration

    The White House is exploring all executive authorities in existing law that will allow an aggressive crackdown on illegal immigration and legal immigration fraud, senior adviser to the president Stephen Miller told The Daily Caller in an exclusive telephone interview.
    “There’s going to be an aggressive effort to utilize every existing authority in statute,” Miller announced, explaining that several authorities exist in immigration laws passed by Congress throughout history, including the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act.


    Miller noted that the White House is “systematically reviewing all authorities that are already on the books, both in terms of cracking down on illegal immigration and […] the abuse of our legal immigration system.” The targeted abuse actions include illegal immigrants who overstay temporary visas, “combatting or addressing legal benefit seeking in the legal immigration system.”
    Noting that there are approximately 1 million illegal aliens in the United States with final removal orders that still remain at large — in some cases for several years — Miller gave one example of the type of executive action the administration can take. The presidential adviser noted that existing law has a statute that allows for a “significant financial penalty” for every single day that an alien resides in the country after being ordered removed.


    Miller stressed that legal immigration abuse will be targeted aggressively, particularly “welfare seeking” by legal immigrants or in some cases “welfare tourism.” He neglected to offer a timeline for when the orders will be implemented but said that “this is going to begin right away.”
    Miller explained that the actions were designed to “dramatically raise the pressure on Congress and in particular the congressional Democrats” to pass laws reforming the U.S. immigration system.
    Explaining why it took so long into the Trump presidency to pursue such aggressive action on illegal immigration, Miller listed a litany of actions taken throughout the past two years. He also explained that many forthcoming regulations “are nearing their completion date,” and that they will “have transformative effects on our immigration system.”

    More at: https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/...l-immigration/
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    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
    I don't see that anywhere but in your head.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't see that anywhere but in your head.
    It is the only way we can find everybody who is not legally in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It is the only way we can find everybody who is not legally in the country.
    We don't need 100% effectiveness.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 04-03-2019 at 07:30 PM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    It is the only way we can find everybody who is not legally in the country.
    Dawg the Bounty Hunter?

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
    Why don't we just cut out all the incentives and build the wall....

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Why don't we just cut out all the incentives and build the wall....
    Ron Paul says we don't need more walls (we have over 600 miles of them right now).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ron Paul says we don't need more walls (we have over 600 miles of them right now).
    They are not working, Ron knows that, but he can't just wash out his legacy in his last hours.
    Well I hope he's here another 80 years, but hey the clock ticks for all of us.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Ron Paul says we don't need more walls (we have over 600 miles of them right now).

    But you're against Ron Paul. So?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please!
    Coming from the guy who says we should have state papers for carrying firearms.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
    They could mandate people wear some type of placard or symbol on their clothing and possibly incorporate that with some type of numbering system. They could possibly tattoo numbers on the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
    Real I.D.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
    America is not common property of the world, you a shill for open borders, the best way to destroy a nation, culture, people and race.

    If you want open borders cut down your walls and have it at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RestorationOfLiberty View Post
    America is not common property of the world, you a shill for open borders, the best way to destroy a nation, culture, people and race.

    If you want open borders cut down your walls and have it at it.
    Who is for open borders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
    Want to live near Arizona's border and tell me how much you enjoy cartel activity? $#@!ing clown.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Want to live near Arizona's border and tell me how much you enjoy cartel activity? $#@!ing clown.
    You mean the cartels supported by the WoD?
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    Want to live near Arizona's border and tell me how much you enjoy cartel activity? $#@!ing clown.
    I live near the San Diego/ Tijuana border and home to the busiest border crossing in the world. Things are fine here.

    Arizona crime?

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...ation-11110407

    "There's a lot of people cryin' wolf,” he added.

    In his written testimony to the Senate Homeland Security Committee, entered into the Congressional record in March 2015, Cochise County Sheriff Dannels stated six specific crimes, which he intimated were being inflicted upon the people of Cochise County by undocumented immigrants and their smugglers. Those offenses were:

    • Reckless high speed pursuits.
    • Assaults on citizens.
    • Rapes.
    • Kidnappings.
    • Murders.
    • Home invasions, including burglary.

    According to records obtained from the Cochise County Sheriff's Office, from 2011 through 2016 (the most recent year for which records are available), CCSO only had only three reports of burglary for which there was believed to be an "undocumented immigrant nexus," as CCSO Public Information Officer Carol Capas phrased it.

    Records relating to incidents believed to have an "undocumented immigrant nexus" were obtained from CCSO in response to public records requests seeking reports of the six major crimes enumerated by Dannels before the Senate, dating from 2011 through 2016, related in any way to individuals who had crossed the border illegally.

    In none of these burglary cases were any arrests made, and in at least one of these reports there was no reason for suspicion of undocumented immigrants given.

    During this same period there were only two reported kidnappings with an "undocumented immigrant nexus" reported to the sheriff's office – both of which were cases in which the immigrants claimed to have been abducted and forced to carry bundles of marijuana across the border, CCSO records show.

    Additional records show that from 2011 through 2016 there were only six pursuits in which CCSO deputies took part that had an "undocumented immigrant nexus." These pursuits resulted in the apprehension of fewer than 30 undocumented immigrants. At least two of these six reported pursuits, were alleged to have been perpetrated by U.S. citizens.

    During this same time period there were seven instances of assaults with an "undocumented immigrant nexus" reported to the sheriff's office, records show. Two of these reported assaults were alleged to have been inflicted on Border Patrol agents by individuals attempting to enter the country illegally. In one of these instances, an officer was allegedly punched by a man who was resisting arrest. In the other Border Patrol-related case, an agent claimed to have been hit in the face by a bundle of marijuana while apprehending a smuggler (on April 20, 2015) who was "attempting to cross bundles of marijuana into the United States."

    The remainder of these reported assaults – five in total – were alleged to have been inflicted on undocumented immigrants by either their smugglers or American citizens. In one case, a juvenile from El Salvador claimed to have been assaulted in a stash house in the Douglas area that he believed to have been owned by English-speaking American citizens. The boy said smugglers had attempted to extort more money from his mother, and that he was assaulted when his mother was unable to pay.

    According to records obtained from CCSO, from 2011 through 2016 there was one rape with an "undocumented immigrant nexus" reported to the sheriff's office. The woman who claimed to have been raped was a Mexican national. No information was given in the report relating to her assailant.

    During this same six-year period there were only two murders with an "undocumented immigrant nexus" reported to the sheriff's office, CCSO records show.

    One of these was reported on July 16, 2016, when the body of a man covered by a sleeping bag was found by the entrance of a guest ranch near U.S. Interstate 10. The body was reportedly that of Ramon Contreras Ramos, a Mexican citizen.

    Members of Ramos' family, contacted by phone, advised CCSO personnel that Ramos had entered the United States a few days earlier. They had been contacted by someone traveling with Ramos who said Ramos was suffering from chest and back pains, and that they were dropping him off at a specific exit on the Interstate. A motion-activated camera on the ranch gate reportedly captured images of Ramos being deposited at the gate by individuals traveling in a pickup truck, near midnight July 15.

    CCSO classified Ramos' death a homicide because the "unknown subjects in the vehicle had the means/opportunity to deliver Ramos to a hospital for medical care and failed to do so."

    The second, and final, homicide with an "undocumented immigrant nexus" reported to CCSO during this time occurred on the night of January 16, 2014, in the remote desert off State Route 80 near Apache, Arizona.

    The victim, later identified as Gabriel Sanchez-Velasquez, a Mexican citizen, had been shot twice –once in the chest, and once in the head – by Border Patrol agent Nathan Woods.
    More at link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I live near the San Diego/ Tijuana border and home to the busiest border crossing in the world. Things are fine here.

    Arizona crime?

    https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...ation-11110407



    More at link.
    stay in california you piece of shiIT. we have open desert with crime, dead bodies, human trafficking...cartel coyotes who smuggle drugs, and humans inside the state of arizona in the mountain ranges...close to Tucson, close to Chandler....so stfu you californian POS

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    “welfare tourism''

    'Mexican isn't a race' .... Los Pierre .....

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    If you travel to other places, you are required to carry your documents. Authorities can ask for them at any time.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    DOD offered him $1 billion. Trump wants 400 miles of wall built by 2020. Can't get there on $1 billion (plus the $1.3 Congress authorized).

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    DOD offered him $1 billion. Trump wants 400 miles of wall built by 2020. Can't get there on $1 billion (plus the $1.3 Congress authorized).
    That's just for one section, there will be more.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    MSM media seems to be not covering this, if confirmed as non-fakewnews this would be huge and help shore up GOP conservative base / rebuild MAGA image as a great deal maker.

    Wall funding was also apparently the roadblock in MAGA's plan to solve DACA issue, this news could mean MAGA may soon have another big accomplishment on that front.




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    President Donald Trump sent a message to migrants and illegal immigrants looking to cross into the United States on the Southern border on Friday.

    “The system is full whether its asylum, whether its illegal immigration, our country is full, our area is full, the sector is full, we can’t take you anymore,” Trump said. “I’m sorry, so turn around, that’s the way it is.”
    The president held a roundtable meeting with Border Patrol agents and military officials at the El Centro sector in Calexico, California.


    Agents at the roundtable thanked Trump for helping construct the additional barriers on the border.
    The president said he was prepared to bring in more military forces from Mexico to assist the agents on the Southern border, and promised to support the members of law enforcement at the border.
    He urged Congress to work on a plan to eliminate the loopholes exploited by immigrants from Central America.
    “It’s bad. Whether it’s catch and release or the visa lottery. So many of them. Chain migration. Total disaster,” Trump said. “The asylum laws are broken. I inherited this stuff. We’re going to get it fixed. We have to.”

    More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...e-you-anymore/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    So many of them. Chain migration. Total disaster,” Trump said.
    Trump's mother came as a unaccompanied minor on chain migration. So did his grandfather (his father's father).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump's mother came as a unaccompanied minor on chain migration. So did his grandfather (his father's father).
    That makes no difference.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That makes no difference.
    I guess he never really liked his family anyways.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I guess he never really liked his family anyways.
    Irrelevant and speculative.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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