“This is a system-wide collapse” - Texas border overwhelmed

[Swordsmyth]

No, I said potential. I do not claim them to currently be socialists/communists as SS does. Hence why I've said in other threads that the failure of conservatives to actively court hispanics is a terrible strategy. It does allow them to be courted solely by socialists.

We have courted them, we have gone too far and offered them free stuff, but they always vote for the people offering them the most free stuff.

[Zippyjuan]

No, I said potential. I do not claim them to currently be socialists/communists as SS does. Hence why I've said in other threads that the failure of conservatives to actively court hispanics is a terrible strategy. It does allow them to be courted solely by socialists.

Immigrants also have the lowest voter turnout rates so importing them for the purposes of getting them to vote doesn't pay off that well. In 2012, first generation immigrants were only 8% of voters despite being almost 14% of the eligible voting population. 63% of all eligible voters partook in that election- 53% of first generation immigrants did.



https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blog..._votingin.html

Just more fear mongering.

[pcosmar]

Looking forward to watching it BURN.

And I establish My covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.”

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store,

reserved unto fire

against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men…

For behold, the LORD will come with fire--His chariots are like the whirlwind--to execute His anger with fury and His rebuke with flames of fire.

and from my namesake

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to conduct yourselves in holiness and godliness as you anticipate and hasten the coming of the day of God, when the heavens will be dissolved by fire and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with God’s promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.…

perhaps some of you misunderstand..

I am an Observer doing time on earth.

I welcome the end of my sentence/service here.

[Swordsmyth]

Immigrants also have the lowest voter turnout rates so importing them for the purposes of getting them to vote doesn't pay off that well. In 2012, first generation immigrants were only 8% of voters despite being almost 14% of the eligible voting population.



https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blog..._votingin.html

Just more fear mongering.

You only need one final straw to break a camel's back.

[pcosmar]

, we are not advocating for a police state.

Yes.
You are in Fact. A full Blown Authoritarian Police State.. to keep "them" out.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes.
You are in Fact. A full Blown Authoritarian Police State.. to keep "them" out.

No, we are not.

[DamianTV]

That is a good strategy for those that you can get to listen.

The rest will have to be defeated one way or another.

Work smart, not hard.

This is also where we can use the Elites own weapons against them. The nature of Propaganda is effective as a tool of population control, a lot of it is because of the MSM and Media in general operating in a predatory way on peoples Normalcy Bias. Propaganda can also work effectively against the Elite due to its VIRAL nature. If you can manage to get across to just one person, and make sure they understand how we have all been purposefully been pitted against each other instead of by those who design our doom, and convince that person to not only tell others, but teach others how to spread that same information, then the mind opening effects of Liberty also become VIRAL. It is that very reason that Censorship is being pushed so hard. When only a handful of people are "allowed" to speak, you can guarantee that what they are saying is a form of Propaganda. This is why Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies.

[Anti Federalist]

Exactly.

But, in order those who are planning the collapse to not get people coming after them for plotting it, they need Plausible Deniability, they need an Enemy. When everyone blames everyone else at the bottom, it absolves the majority of Elites from their involvement. Whites blame Mexicans, Blacks blame Whites, Browns blame Whites, Straights blame Non Christians, everyone blames each other, and once they get into the Group Think Paradigm, they nave no ability to resist the urge to destroy because that is the limited potential of the Angry Mob.

Moral of the post is to not be a part of the problem.

I've resisted that impulse for a long time.

I have tried for years to make common bonds and alliances with any number of "groups" and points of view, in the effort to reduce the size, scope, power, control and influence of government in all our lives.

I have been roundly rebuffed.

Now, I am being told that I, and my posterity, are to have no voice in the future of the country that my family built.

We are to be silent, replaced, displaced, and the more extreme elements want me and mine dead.

Most of the people advocating this $#@! are $#@! leftist white people, so my growing anger and pushback is not based solely on tired ethnic shibboleths.

But I will be $#@!ed and damned if I am going to be turned into an unperson in my own country, regardless of whether it is at the hands of government or at the hands of leftist mobs of Bolsheviks and Jacobins.

You'll can push back with me, or not.

[Brian4Liberty]

Immigrants also have the lowest voter turnout rates so importing them for the purposes of getting them to vote doesn't pay off that well. In 2012, first generation immigrants were only 8% of voters despite being almost 14% of the eligible voting population. 63% of all eligible voters partook in that election- 53% of first generation immigrants did.



https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blog..._votingin.html

Just more fear mongering.

Of course. The Democrat Party would never anticipate gaining voters. They have nothing to gain by flooding California with people. Except for maybe Federal money, a couple of new US House of Reps seats and maybe a few electoral college votes?

Nothing to see here... Move along.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...17#post6776117

[DamianTV]

Walled police states don't have any thriving examples either. The fact is, things like walls and police states are necessary preliminary steps to implement totalitarian communist (or fascist) states. If I've learned anything it's that one of the biggest keys to how elites operate is to get people to want (consenting) what their plans call for, instead of forcefully implementing them on people and risking a direct revolt. If they can get someone like AF to actually advocate for the preliminary steps needed to implement a communist society, they're executing the plan brilliantly. Then later when the communist society is STILL implemented, everyone wonders how the hell it happened?

Duality mind tricks require that only two "options" to be presented, while neither option is a good option and ignoring all other options.

When there only exists Walled Police States, how long until the troublesome parts of the population is "culled"?

[Anti Federalist]

I've never approached it from a "crime" angle.

I could care less.

I approach from a displacement/replacement angle.

The reason crime is down is this:



The invading hordes vote AGAINST gun rights.

When crime rates go up, the people in general start hollering for more "police state".

Thus: mass migration causes a police state.

Stop gaslighting people and stop bleating that I am in favor of what YOU are proposing which is more people, more crime, more pollution, more cops and more government.

Honestly, you sound like the barnyard animals in Animal Farm: "Two Legs Baddddd".

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[Danke]

[donnay]

[PAF]

Walled police states don't have any thriving examples either. The fact is, things like walls and police states are necessary preliminary steps to implement totalitarian communist (or fascist) states. If I've learned anything it's that one of the biggest keys to how elites operate is to get people to want (consenting) what their plans call for, instead of forcefully implementing them on people and risking a direct revolt. If they can get someone like AF to actually advocate for the preliminary steps needed to implement a communist society, they're executing the plan brilliantly. Then later when the communist society is STILL implemented, everyone wonders how the hell it happened?

Duality mind tricks require that only two "options" to be presented, while neither option is a good option and ignoring all other options.

+ Rep, well said.

[RJB]

All the other debates aside, looking at the mass of people, what I see there is my commute to work being twice as bad. We're full. Go away.

[ATruepatriot]

All the other debates aside, looking at the mass of people, what I see there is my commute to work being twice as bad. We're full. Go away.

Yep... In your face realization and number one issue. Wouldn't matter where they are coming from, Ireland, Sweden, Germany. too many is too many no matter the source.

[donnay]

All the other debates aside, looking at the mass of people, what I see there is my commute to work being twice as bad. We're full. Go away.

[euphemia]

I think we need a break from this. The people you see in those crowds are not malnourished. They are not fluent in English. They are largely uneducated. They are not employment ready and their children are not school ready.

In the meantime, people who come here because they have research fellowships with prestigious universities wait for years for a simple green card so the other spouse can work.

The system can’t keep up, and our nanny state can’t keep up. Shut this down for three years. Make those countries realize that this also shuts off trade. Revamp the system, run a test for two years, then reopen.

[samforpaul]

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[kona]

This is what Dr. Ron calls "an invasion."

[parocks]

We could think even bigger and take all of Mexico. We would just need to supply the drugs cartels with enough guns and money to stage a coup on Mexico City. If Mexico City falls to drug lords then we could invade and restore order and we wouldn't be invaders at that point we would be heroes.

We could then deport everyone on Mexico who has a criminal history, which is basically everyone on Mexico. To like Guatemala or something.

Just a few thoughts.

We can take care of the drug cartel problem that Mexico has if we're in Mexico.

Remember what Bush did in Panama, regarding Noreiga and drugs? We sent the military in, and chased him around and caught him.

We could send military in and catch those drug cartel folks.

[parocks]

I don't agree with putting any bases in Mexico but if they don't stop the invasion instead of aiding it we may have to take control of the border with the military on one side of the border or the other.

Is building bases in Mexico worse? Or is building an endless number of bases in the Middle East worse?

We have an endless number of bases in the Middle East right now, and I don't see any need for them at all.

If we could build bases at Mexican border, and close Middle East bases, because we can't have both, I'd rather have the Mexican bases, than the Middle East bases. We should be 100% out of the Middle East. We shouldn't be giving Israel $38 Billion over 10 years, $3.8 Billion a year, which I think they're using on Internet Trolling in the US.

[nobody's_hero]

To where?

The most free countries on planet earth have not lost their collective minds, and don't let people just wander in whenever they feel like it.

That said, this is my country, quite literally.

My family has been here since the 17th century.

"Ourselves and our posterity" means me and mine.

Tough to walk away from all that without so much as a peep.

Not to mention if you do manage to break away and create prosperity, they will chase you down and take it from you. Either you'll defeat them here or you'll never find peace.

[Superfluous Man]

I think we need a break from this. The people you see in those crowds are not malnourished. They are not fluent in English. They are largely uneducated. They are not employment ready and their children are not school ready.

I'm not able to tell most of that from a photograph.

But let's say it's true.

If someone is uneducated and not employment ready, they would still be that in whatever country they live, whether it be the USA or a different one. Is there some reason I should tell them, "No, you go be uneducated and unready for employment over there on that side of the line, and not over here on this side of it."?

[Superfluous Man]

This is what Dr. Ron calls "an invasion."

No it isn't.

[parocks]

To where?

The most free countries on planet earth have not lost their collective minds, and don't let people just wander in whenever they feel like it.

That said, this is my country, quite literally.

My family has been here since the 17th century.

"Ourselves and our posterity" means me and mine.

Tough to walk away from all that without so much as a peep.

same here, my country, Mayflower.

[Superfluous Man]

same here, my country, Mayflower.

If you believe that your ancestors were exercising a right that was genuinely theirs when they came to this continent on the Mayflower then you should also recognize that everyone else in the world has that same right just as much as they did.

[nobody's_hero]

I've resisted that impulse for a long time.

I have tried for years to make common bonds and alliances with any number of "groups" and points of view, in the effort to reduce the size, scope, power, control and influence of government in all our lives.

I have been roundly rebuffed.

Now, I am being told that I, and my posterity, are to have no voice in the future of the country that my family built.

We are to be silent, replaced, displaced, and the more extreme elements want me and mine dead.

Most of the people advocating this $#@! are $#@! leftist white people, so my growing anger and pushback is not based solely on tired ethnic shibboleths.

But I will be $#@!ed and damned if I am going to be turned into an unperson in my own country, regardless of whether it is at the hands of government or at the hands of leftist mobs of Bolsheviks and Jacobins.

You'll can push back with me, or not.

[timosman]

I'm not able to tell most of that from a photograph.

But let's say it's true.

If someone is uneducated and not employment ready, they would still be that in whatever country they live, whether it be the USA or a different one. Is there some reason I should tell them, "No, you go be uneducated and unready for employment over there on that side of the line, and not over here on this side of it."?

Do you expect anybody to waste their time in order to refute this "argument"?

[parocks]

RPF has a choice - ban Zippy or suffer through circular discussions forever.

I believe that RPF made that choice years ago. Zippy is still here.