this is part of the problem though. we need a universal definition for a law to be effectively created to combat it.
great. i'm glad.
you dont eat fish. i do. most people do.
whether fishing constitutes as animal cruelty affects that.
This is the point, exactly. Human morality is self implicated. It has nothing to do with the animal kingdom. Human societies have laws in place to govern humans. Animals are NOT a part of our society. They are NOT members of society. They have been brought in or "forced" as you so eloquently put as PROPERTY. This stemmed from needing them for FOOD as livestock, followed by labor and companionship. They are still property, we are responsible for them as PROPERTY, not beings granted rights who need to be protected by rights whether its from humans or each other.
Our morality is based first on dealing with each other, and very very much secondarily other forms of life. Most people will tell you that domesticated pets should be cared for, but that doesnt mean we need to legislate it because some people are $#@!ed up. It causes many, many, many more problems than it ever solves.
I think animals are great. I also have no problem with people killing animals for food, nor pest control. When Gophers are $#@!ing with your crops you have every right to protect them by stopping the pests.
Again this comes down to the question of what constitutes as cruelty. If we are going to make an issue out of it, we need a clear line drawn definition of what constitutes as cruelty so that we can enforce it.
Also considering your POV. Why is it that killing a dog "humanely" through euthanasia, is any better than fishing or hunting for food??
Maybe that dog would rather live and run around as a scrappy stray than be euthanized? Most Poor people and homeless people would rather live poorly and homelessly than being "humanely" euthanized for their benefit? Why do you think a dog would think anything different. I'm pretty sure if that dog knew what you were doing it would stuggle tooth and nail to live.
I'm glad you see my points. and like i said i understand where you're coming from and sympathize with you as well, people killing or injuring or neglecting their pets is a horrible thing.
do i think "animal rights" legislation is a solution to that problem? absolutely not. in fact it will just create many, many more problems than it would ever hope to solve.
you think abortion is an issue right now? just wait till we have to start dealing with what animal rights should mean.
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