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    New Zealand bans possession, distribution of shooting suspect's manifesto

    New Zealand on Saturday announced a ban on the possession and distribution of a manifesto allegedly written by the suspect behind attacks at two mosques last week.

    The country's Office of Film and Literature Classification said the document is objectionable under law.

    "There is an important distinction to be made between 'hate speech,' which may be rejected by many right-thinking people, but which is legal to express, and this type of publication, which is deliberately constructed to inspire further murder and terrorism," New Zealand's Chief Censor David Shanks said in a statement. "It crosses the line.”

    Shanks called on the public to delete any copies of the manifesto, as well as report it when it is discovered online.

    "New Zealanders can all play a part in denying those who exhort hatred, killing and terror," Shanks said. "Do not support the murderous objectives of its author by republishing or distributing it."
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...oting-suspects

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    Yet they are supporting the objectives by banning guns and free speech.


    Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights in the New Zealand?

    The gun owners of New Zealand are a beaten, miserable bunch of baby boomers, who have long since given up the fight.When was the last time they won increased rights? Their loss was inevitable.I just accelerated things a bit.They had long since lost their cities, take a look at Auckland. Did you really expect they would not also lose their rights?
    Last edited by aGameOfThrones; 03-23-2019 at 11:14 PM.



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    Media: The shooter was a Trump supporter and white supremacist.

    Manifesto: The shooter was a socialist, anti-conservative eco-fascist

    Media: Do not support the murderous objectives of the shooter

    Oh ya, and don't read the manifesto, trust us to tell you what he was all about
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Media: The shooter was a Trump supporter and white supremacist.

    Manifesto: The shooter was a socialist, anti-conservative eco-fascist

    Media: Do not support the murderous objectives of the shooter

    Oh ya, and don't read the manifesto, trust us to tell you what he was all about
    I'd like to read it for myself...

    I can't find it anywhere, it went down the memory hole, and understandably nobody wants to do extensive screwgling for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'd like to read it for myself...

    I can't find it anywhere, it went down the memory hole, and understandably nobody wants to do extensive screwgling for it.
    Tim's link had a link.

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...and-manifesto/
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Thanks...let's see if there is anything thread worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I'd like to read it for myself...

    I can't find it anywhere, it went down the memory hole, and understandably nobody wants to do extensive screwgling for it.
    Well, you can't. You see it's just so dementedly twisted that we don't want to inspire other white, male, patriarchal, $#@!lords.

    So you are just gonna have to accept what we tell ya. Not what we know.

    The guy was bug$#@!, bat$#@!, crazy. His ideologies were all over the spectrum, whispered by legions of demons, pulling him anywhere they could to get him to act in their interest.

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    What they should be doing is encouraging MSM to stop making shooters into overnight Media Mega-Stars.



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    Why did you choose to use firearms?

    I could have chosen any weapons or means.

    A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.

    I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.

    The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.

    With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.

    This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well, you can't. You see it's just so dementedly twisted that we don't want to inspire other white, male, patriarchal, $#@!lords.

    So you are just gonna have to accept what we tell ya. Not what we know.

    The guy was bug$#@!, bat$#@!, crazy. His ideologies were all over the spectrum, whispered by legions of demons, pulling him anywhere they could to get him to act in their interest.
    Well, I can see now why "they" don't want this thing being published all over the place...

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...and-manifesto/

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    Did you always hold these views?

    No, when I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an eco-fascist.

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    Next they will ban any materials derived from the US Constitution as being supportive of hate speech,
    deemed inappropriate for circulation in NZ.

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    Won’t your attack result in calls for the removal of gun rights from Whites in the United states?

    Yes, that is the plan all along, you said you would fight to protect your rights and the constitution, well soon will come the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, I can see now why "they" don't want this thing being published all over the place...

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2...and-manifesto/
    Reading through it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Reading through it now.
    It's an eye opener.

    It may be many things, but certainly not the demented, disjointed ramblings of a lunatic.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-24-2019 at 01:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Did you always hold these views?

    No, when I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an eco-fascist.
    Its rather ironic they accuse right wingers of such things without realizing that his a far leftist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It's an eye opener.

    It may be any things, but certainly not the demented, disjointed ramblings of a lunatic.
    Christ, I'm only half-way through it but I'll retract my "bug$#@!, bat$#@!, crazy" statement. I'm going to have to read through the whole, then probably again. I don't think this guy was some off-the-wall ADHD medicated killer that I originally believed him to be.

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    Not even half-way through. this guy had a lot to say, I'll have to call it a night though,

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Not even half-way through. this guy had a lot to say, I'll have to call it a night though,
    Send ya an PM on this matter, and it seems France Travel trips to towns had changed him.

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    What better way to get people to read something, than to ban it?

    I probably wouldn't have even known there was a manifesto had it not been for the news of it being banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Did you always hold these views?

    No, when I was young I was a communist, then an anarchist and finally a libertarian before coming to be an eco-fascist.

    he was probably one of these libertarians...

    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It's an eye opener.

    It may be any things, but certainly not the demented, disjointed ramblings of a lunatic.
    Did you like the Green Nationalist part? Seems a lot like what AOC promotes.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
    "For Wales. Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?"
    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
    There's nothing wrong with stopping people randomly, especially near bars, restaurants etc.~Velho

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Media: The shooter was a Trump supporter and white supremacist.
    2020 elections "Mr. Trump. An extremist in New Zealand attacked and killed Muslims. Why do you hate Muslims?"
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."



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