Seattle is Dying

[timosman]

Mar 17, 2019

[Origanalist]

It's hard to feel sorry for Seattle. They still don't get that it's because of their own stupidity and progressive mindset that the city is $#@!hole.

[kona]

How did Seattle get so bad? No state tax, big economy, legal cannabis. Not exactly an enemy of liberty. Yet socialist culture and homeless all over.

So what happened. Is it more than just importing Californians? Seattle was not like this in the 90s.

[Origanalist]

How did Seattle get so bad? No state tax, big economy, legal cannabis. Not exactly an enemy of liberty. Yet socialist culture and homeless all over.

So what happened. Is it more than just importing Californians? Seattle was not like this in the 90s.

I guess it depends on how you define liberty. I would say it is a huge enemy of liberty. Ask a small business man, ask any building contractor, homeowner, etc.. "Yet Socialist culture..", I think you answered your own question. Being "woke" in Seattle doesn't mean 'sleepless' anymore.

[kona]

I guess it depends on how you define liberty. I would say it is a huge enemy of liberty. Ask a small business man, ask any building contractor, homeowner, etc.. "Yet Socialist culture..", I think you answered your own question. Being "woke" in Seattle doesn't mean 'sleepless' anymore.

I agree on the enemy of liberty part, just trying to understand why.

[Swordsmyth]

I agree on the enemy of liberty part, just trying to understand why.

I think it is mostly the Californians.

[specsaregood]

wow, what a $#@!hole.

[Anti Globalist]

Nope not gonna feel sorry for Seattle one bit. They chose to live in that $#@!hole.

[Origanalist]

Nope not gonna feel sorry for Seattle one bit. They chose to live in turn it into that $#@!hole.

Fixed it.

[acptulsa]

I think it is mostly the Californians.

1. Find collective.

2. Blame collective.

[donnay]

SIGH...what a damn shame. This is all being done by design.

[Stratovarious]

1. Find collective.

2. Blame collective.

1. Seek those that point out truth.

2. Then accuse them of using your own Collectivist tactics.

[acptulsa]

1. Seek those that point out truth.

2. Then accuse them of using your own Collectivist tactics.

You did that very well.

[Origanalist]

1. Seek those that point out truth.

2. Then accuse them of using your own Collectivist tactics.

It's not the truth. I live in the area, Seattle-ites don't need any help. they do it all on their own.

[Stratovarious]

It's not the truth. I live in the area, Seattle-ites don't need any help. they do it all on their own.

I was directing that on to AC, not so much Ca or Wa.


I do think or guess though that the age of cell phones and internet for everyone (libraries etc)
directs people to the best handouts........


Just guess, I don't know Seattle .

[Origanalist]

I was directing that on to AC, not so much Ca or Wa.


I do think or guess though that the age of cell phones and internet for everyone (libraries etc)
directs people to the best handouts........


Just guess, I don't know Seattle .

AC?

[Stratovarious]

AC?

acTULSA

[juleswin]

Watching this makes me question the whole drug legalization policy. People are going to wreck themselves if you allow them to do drugs and like in Seattle attempt to take their communities down with them.

Stay away from drugs kids. Nothing good can come out of it

[kona]

Watching this makes me question the whole drug legalization policy. People are going to wreck themselves if you allow them to do drugs and like in Seattle attempt to take their communities down with them.

Stay away from drugs kids. Nothing good can come out of it

What drug policy do you want? You think weed caused this?

[juleswin]

What drug policy do you want? You think weed caused this?

I really don't know what the solution is

Meth, heroine etc. If you watched the documentary, everybody they talked to said that 100% of the homeless that is at the root of this problem abuse drugs. I would like to believe that allowing people to do drugs would have less harmful consequences on society but what I am seeing makes me think my original belief if wrong.

[oyarde]

How did Seattle get so bad? No state tax, big economy, legal cannabis. Not exactly an enemy of liberty. Yet socialist culture and homeless all over.

So what happened. Is it more than just importing Californians? Seattle was not like this in the 90s.

Actually every large city in the pacific northwest ( seattle , portland etc )and pretty much soon colorado is over run with ignorant communists that could $#@! up anything ever known to mankind and is anti liberty to the core . There are city ordinances against simple things like carrying a pocket knife or panning gold in a river . Bye seattle . Mike Pence would improve liberty in a $#@!hole like that by 80 percent and most libertarians view him as statist .

[Swordsmyth]

1. Find collective.

2. Blame collective.

1 Find collectivists
2 blame collectivists

[Swordsmyth]

It's not the truth. I live in the area, Seattle-ites don't need any help. they do it all on their own.

Californians have been moving there for several generations now.

[Origanalist]

Californians have been moving there for several generations now.

No $#@!.

[timosman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Freeze

Could "Seattle Freeze" be a contributing factor in all of this?

[specsaregood]

If you watched the documentary, everybody they talked to said that 100% of the homeless that is at the root of this problem abuse drugs.

but that does not mean they are homeless because of the drugs. maybe they abuse drugs because they are homeless? You ever tried sleeping outside in winter in seattle without being drunk or stoned?

[acptulsa]

but that does not mean they are homeless because of the drugs. maybe they abuse drugs because they are homeless?

Seems more likely that mental illness caused both..

[juleswin]

but that does not mean they are homeless because of the drugs. maybe they abuse drugs because they are homeless? You ever tried sleeping outside in winter in seattle without being drunk or stoned?

Actually I have seen other documentaries about homeless crisis in Seattle and the problem is that drug abusing homeless people cannot follow the rules at the shelters and they end up leaving or kicked out because of it.

So I would wager to guess that the drugs use is the main cause of the homeless crisis and not the homelessness causing the drug use.

[Origanalist]

Actually I have seen other documentaries about homeless crisis in Seattle and the problem is that drug abusing homeless people cannot follow the rules at the shelters and they end up leaving or kicked out because of it.

So I would wager to guess that the drugs use is the main cause of the homeless crisis and not the homelessness causing the drug use.

Oh, you watched a documentary. Well then, I must defer to your greater knowledge of the subject.

[juleswin]

Oh, you watched a documentary. Well then, I must defer to your greater knowledge of the subject.

Can I quote on this post? I am in need of a new sig.

Origanalist: We must defer to Juleswin's greater knowledge on the homeless crisis in Seattle.

For anyone who doesn't know it, the OP information is from a documentary. I just mentioned that I viewed another documentary in addition to this one that showed a different perspective of the crisis. This documentary actually bolsters the information presented in the OP and doesn't contradict it at all. So yea, sue me for using a documentary as my source of info.