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    Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'

    This might further inflate unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that MAGA's strong pro-Israel tilt was part of some secret deal with so called 'party of Israel' (Democratic party) to avoid impeachment or even more cynical anti-semitic conspiracy theories circulating among some Far Right groups (and subscribed by likes of alleged PA Synagogue shooter Robert Bowers) that MAGA was being 'blackmailed' by some Jewish group. Given MAGA's bold personality, all such theories seem far fetched and are lacking evidence.
    A more credible explanation might be that this tilt was aimed at aiding Israeli PM Netanyahu (who is funded by MAGA's top donor and respected neoconservative Sheldon Adelson) in coming elections at home amid bribery/corruption indictment noise. There might be some Biblical aspect too (as was seen ahead of Iraq invasion decision), Christian Evangelical groups (like CUFI of Pastor John Hagee) that champion Greater Israel prophecies ahead of Jesus' Return are aligned with MAGA's America-First movement.




    Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights'


    By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
    Thu March 21, 2019

    (CNN) President Donald Trump on Thursday overturned longstanding US policy regarding the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, announcing "it is time" for the US to "fully recognize Israel's Sovereignty" over the region.

    "After 52 years it is time for the United States to fully recognize Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights, which is of critical strategic and security importance to the State of Israel and Regional Stability," Trump tweeted.

    The announcement hands Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a significant foreign policy victory, less than three weeks before Israelis head to the polls to decide whether he should remain in power. The move comes just days before Netanyahu is set to join Trump at the White House and follows weeks during which Netanyahu has renewed his push for the US to recognize the Golan Heights as part of Israel.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/21/polit...eet/index.html







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    Good.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Hey, the Israelis won it fair and square. I wouldn't give back a square inch. Spoils of war and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Hey, the Israelis won it fair and square. I wouldn't give back a square inch. Spoils of war and all.
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
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    I'm done with Trump what a complete disgrace, I suppose now instead of
    ignoring the den of thieves and their war crimes , Trump is going to say that the
    war crimes should escalate because of Israel's right to exist, and right
    to exterminate their neighbors , neighbors whom don't have that right to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
    Canada has been throwing rocks , we are sending tanks and will need to occupy
    the country as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Hey, the Israelis won it fair and square. I wouldn't give back a square inch. Spoils of war and all.
    They own it as surely as Syria owns the land it controls or any other country owns its territory.

    Should we keep recognizing the KMT as the rulers of mainland China?

    The only thing that bothers me is our subsidization of their hold on it and the likelihood that we will be drafted to help them keep it if Syria or anyone else comes close to taking it away from them.
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    Lightbulb Miko Peled son of a famous Israeli General drops 2 minutes of Truth Bombs about Israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Wow, good find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    That's so rich. Centuries, nah millennia of ethnic conflict and he says "just lower the walls, allow the invasion, and there will be peace"...… Which religion says to kill the infidels and nonbelievers again? And you want them to invade Israel and everybody will sing kumbaya?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
    No different than how USA acquired land from Mexico. Do you support giving Mexico back the land we took from them?
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    No different than how USA acquired land from Mexico. Do you support giving Mexico back the land we took from them?
    One can draw parallels, but still not equal.

    Mexico seceded those lands and was paid for it. The inhabitants were guaranteed US Citizenship in the agreement.

    Can the same be said for Syria and now former Syrians?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    One can draw parallels, but still not equal.

    Mexico seceded those lands and was paid for it. The inhabitants were guaranteed US Citizenship in the agreement.

    Can the same be said for Syria and now former Syrians?
    No.
    Great I could support that as part of a peace process. But you think Syria or the other Arab groups would agree to that? I think not. I think they like saying they are oppressed and occupied. Gives them justification and motivation to inspire more Muslims to kill Jews.

    Then it seems the error made by Israel was not continuing their counter attack all the way to Damascus. Should have been more ruthless like USA.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Then it seems the error made by Israel was not continuing their counter attack all the way to Damascus. Should have been more ruthless like USA.
    Um, everything the U.S. does in the Middle East it does because Israel, the oil companies and the Federal Reserve pay Congress to get it done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    Great I could support that as part of a peace process. But you think Syria or the other Arab groups would agree to that? I think not. I think they like saying they are oppressed and occupied. Gives them justification and motivation to inspire more Muslims to kill Jews.

    Then it seems the error made by Israel was not continuing their counter attack all the way to Damascus. Should have been more ruthless like USA.
    counter attack? you do know Israel orchestrated that war, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
    Cannot , been beaten every time they tried . Only the the Great Oyarde could lead to the victory of canada .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Cannot , been beaten every time they tried . Only the the Great Oyarde could lead to the victory of canada .
    I'll setup a gofundme for your attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I'll setup a gofundme for your attack.
    It will be very expensive . And I will not be giving back .
    Last edited by oyarde; 03-21-2019 at 09:42 PM.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    One can draw parallels, but still not equal.

    Mexico seceded those lands and was paid for it. The inhabitants were guaranteed US Citizenship in the agreement.

    Can the same be said for Syria and now former Syrians?
    No.
    It's no different than how most countries took most of their land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
    Why would we want it?
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Why would we want it?
    I hear they have weapons of mass destruction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I hear they have weapons of mass destruction.
    Polar bears?
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's no different than how most countries took most of their land.
    Ya but we sort of criticized Russia for doing it so it's kind of hypocritical don't you think? Or are we just going to pretend that we didn't do that. Why are we even in peace treaties and international organizations that violate our rights, if we are just going to do whatever we want and piss the whole world off anyway?



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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Ya but we sort of criticized Russia for doing it so it's kind of hypocritical don't you think? Or are we just going to pretend that we didn't do that. Why are we even in peace treaties and international organizations that violate our rights. if we are just going to do whatever we want and piss the whole world off anyway?
    I don't support the persecution of Russia over Crimea, they had far better justification for what they did than most countries had for taking any of their territory.
    We should leave almost all international treaties and organizations.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't support the persecution of Russia over Crimea, they had far better justification for what they did than most countries had for taking any of their territory.
    We should leave almost all international treaties and organizations.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.

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    From latest news, it appears this is due to some divine intervention and MAGA maybe doing 'God's work' to defend our closest ally.

    More proof that such pro-Israel statements and steps had nothing to do with Mueller report or threats of impeachment from some crazy segments within 'party of Israel' aka dems and were not aimed to get a fair shake from Mexiacn Judge Israeli Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in charge of Mueller probe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
    We might as well.

    Morality means nothing.

    Might makes right.

    If I want my neighbor's property, I'm entitled to it, simply because I'm capable of stealing it. And I'll use whatever force necessary, human lives be damned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?
    We'd be doing them a favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Should we attack Canada and take it too?

    Oh hell no... it's full of Canadians.

    Jesus man, THINK!
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