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    Who is this George Soros I keep hearing about?

    I am a political ignoramus. I freely admit that I need information from people more intelligent than me to help me understand most political agendas, etc.

    So, I have three basic questions if anyone is kind enough to answer them for me.

    I keep hearing about this multi-billionaire called George Soros, who apparently is trying to influence all sorts of political things.

    My questions are:

    (1) WHAT EXACTLY is George Soros trying to do?

    (2) Whatever he is trying to do, WHY EXACTLY is he trying to do it?

    (3) Whatever he is trying to do, is he doing it for what he perceives as a 'benefit to the world'? Or is he doing it for his own personal benefit?

    Actually that's four questions, not three. I hope that's OK.

    Thanks in advance,

    Steve.



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    Great questions.

    If I may jump in and add a request of my own, speaking as someone who has the same questions, would those who venture to answer please point us to actual objective evidence to support your claims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Grisham View Post
    I am a political ignoramus. I freely admit that I need information from people more intelligent than me to help me understand most political agendas, etc.

    So, I have three basic questions if anyone is kind enough to answer them for me.

    I keep hearing about this multi-billionaire called George Soros, who apparently is trying to influence all sorts of political things.

    My questions are:

    (1) WHAT EXACTLY is George Soros trying to do?

    (2) Whatever he is trying to do, WHY EXACTLY is he trying to do it?

    (3) Whatever he is trying to do, is he doing it for what he perceives as a 'benefit to the world'? Or is he doing it for his own personal benefit?

    Actually that's four questions, not three. I hope that's OK.

    Thanks in advance,

    Steve.
    Welcome to the forum, great first questions.

    Soros is committed to the political goal of one world government.

    He uses his billions to fund and manage a whole slew of political action groups around the world to promote these ideals.

    Why is hard to answer...the cynic in me says it is for his own personal benefit and power or he could be a true believer in one world socialist government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Welcome to the forum, great first questions.

    Soros is committed to the political goal of one world government.

    He uses his billions to fund and manage a whole slew of political action groups around the world to promote these ideals.

    Why is hard to answer...the cynic in me says it is for his own personal benefit and power or he could be a true believer in one world socialist government.


    Funds OPEN SOCIETY to the tune of Billions, supports 'Caravans' attempting to cross US Border.
    Buses hate groups to create racial division.
    As Anti F says George wants Open Borders, NWO, peace through Globalism, one rule of
    law for the entire world.
    Socialism
    Socialism historically leads to Genocide, it doesn't work.



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    1. Soros is trying to create a one world government.

    2. He does this by creating many political foundations that share this philosophy.

    3. He does it for his own political benefit. If he actually legitimately believes its for the benefit of the world, then he should be smart enough to realize the error of his ways.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 03-20-2019 at 11:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I don't know a lot about politics, but a friend of mine has told me that the following political groups are trying to basically take over the world in order to prevent any more wars.

    1. The Club of Rome
    2. The Council on Foreign relations
    3. The Bilderberg Group
    4. The Committee of Three Hundred
    5. The Trilateral Commission

    I know all these groups actually exist because I have looked them up on Google.

    I also know that Libertarians champion individual rights, which would obviously be destroyed in the event of a war situation. So I'm wondering if these groups have Libertarian ideas on this matter.

    And if they don't have Libertarian ideas, what ideas do they have to prevents wars?

    Thanks everyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    See; George Soros, his life is 'funding' agitators (or is it taters ) and organizing caravans' .
    That's just one individual globalist.
    Ah, Stratovarious added Soros to the list...

    Why the interest in secretive “globalist” organizations? They exist, people really don’t know exactly what they do, so there is much speculation. Common sense would say that they get together and discuss issues of interest to them, likely business and political issues.

    An interesting aspect is that most people have been conditioned such that the mere mention of most of those organizations (if they have heard of them at all) results in a “uh oh, crazy conspiracy theorist” reaction. Exception: it’s acceptable to mention them if CNBC is reporting from one of their events.
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    I have read all of his books. To sum up his philosophy, he believes markets work to the extent that they provide feedback and pure Marxism doesn't work because you need markets to communicate information. So his conclusion is you need markets but wise central planners need to steer them. He sees bubbles and market failure everywhere. He is very in favor of government intervention through regulation and the Federal Reserve and believes in institutions like the UN.

    He chronically thinks the world is ending (like Ron Paul unfortunately) and believes the only way to save it is for wise elites to curb the excesses. And of course when the regulators inevitably get it wrong he never learns the lesson that regulations have costs too.

    He is very instinctive and not logical and borderline incoherent in the way he expresses himself. I think he is sincere. He just has this view that everything would be great if only you had the right planners forming the right institutions in power.
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 03-20-2019 at 11:12 AM.

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    His real name is Georgi Schwartz (Americanized version), Nazi collaborator as a young man, currently an intelligence agency "cut out" (google it), which means he's a go-between and sort of a strawman used to focus people's anger on a single, elusive person while money is funneled through "his" organizations like Open Society to enact agenda-driven policy and social engineering goals. In other words, Soros (Schwartz) is a real person but he's a created boogeyman for you to be angry at while a much larger conspiracy moves forward unnoticed.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    His real name is Georgi Schwartz (Americanized version), Nazi collaborator as a young man, currently an intelligence agency "cut out" (google it), which means he's a go-between and sort of a strawman used to focus people's anger on a single, elusive person while money is funneled through "his" organizations like Open Society to enact agenda-driven policy and social engineering goals. In other words, Soros (Schwartz) is a real person but he's a created boogeyman for you to be angry at while a much larger conspiracy moves forward unnoticed.
    Soros and all other bogeyman are designed to make people into passive defeatists. Their real power is the terror or fear that they propagate. They use this fear gas or hate gas to passify the masses into submission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    I have read all of his books. To sum up his philosophy, he believes markets work to the extent that they provide feedback and pure Marxism doesn't work because you need markets to communicate information. So his conclusion is you need markets but wise central planners need to steer them. He sees bubbles and market failure everywhere. He is very in favor of government intervention through regulation and the Federal Reserve and believes in institutions like the UN.

    He chronically thinks the world is ending (like Ron Paul unfortunately) and believes the only way to save it is for wise elites to curb the excesses. And of course when the regulators inevitably get it wrong he never learns the lesson that regulations have costs too.

    He is very instinctive and not logical and borderline incoherent in the way he expresses himself. I think he is sincere. He just has this view that everything would be great if only you had the right planners forming the right institutions in power.
    Excellent reply. Thank you.

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    I also hear he doesn't pay that well. Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Grisham View Post
    My questions are:

    (1) WHAT EXACTLY is George Soros trying to do?

    (2) Whatever he is trying to do, WHY EXACTLY is he trying to do it?

    (3) Whatever he is trying to do, is he doing it for what he perceives as a 'benefit to the world'? Or is he doing it for his own personal benefit?

    I am confident in saying there are people paid to troll Ron Paul Forums. This is not that far out. For example, Israel pays students to defend it online. See my signature line to get my ideas on what they do.

    I am 95% confident in saying that Soros's Open Society Foundations funds the trolling here.

    I don't know Soros' individual motivation, but think about why people give money. They want to leave a legacy. They want to support something in which they believe. They want power. They want influence.

    Some people have so much money that they don't know what to do with it. I once worked with people who worked with benefactors. Many told me that people want to give their wealth, but don't know what to do with it. Can you imagine not knowing how to spend your money? So, the benefactors get contacted by those looking for money.

    It might seem far out that someone like Soros would have troll funding grants, but I don't think it's far out. I think he is probably so far removed that he might not have even heard of Ron Paul Forums. I think it goes so far down the chain. Someone in Open Society has grant money. Someone gets an idea to thwart Ron Paul's campaign in 2007 (remember, a lot of people were very concerned about Paul in 2008 and 2012). They discourage libertarians any way they can.

    Ron Paul is not likely running any more, but the funding to troll this site goes on. Go figure.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I also hear he doesn't pay that well. Is this true?
    He wouldn't be the first HFer not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I also hear he doesn't pay that well. Is this true?
    They got lots of payment plans like silver or lead. It sounds like a pyramid scheme but..

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I also hear he doesn't pay that well. Is this true?
    Are you asking me as the OP in this thread? Or are you just asking in general?

    If you are asking me, the answer is that I have absolutely no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Grisham View Post
    Are you asking me as the OP in this thread? Or are you just asking in general?

    If you are asking me, the answer is that I have absolutely no idea.
    Have you been living under a rock for the last few years? What made you think RPF is the best place to ask about Soros?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Great questions.

    If I may jump in and add a request of my own, speaking as someone who has the same questions, would those who venture to answer please point us to actual objective evidence to support your claims?
    Objective evidence to support the answer to the question, 'What is that guy thinking?'

    Thread killer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    I have read all of his books. To sum up his philosophy, he believes markets work to the extent that they provide feedback and pure Marxism doesn't work because you need markets to communicate information. So his conclusion is you need markets but wise central planners need to steer them. He sees bubbles and market failure everywhere. He is very in favor of government intervention through regulation and the Federal Reserve and believes in institutions like the UN.

    He chronically thinks the world is ending (like Ron Paul unfortunately) and believes the only way to save it is for wise elites to curb the excesses. And of course when the regulators inevitably get it wrong he never learns the lesson that regulations have costs too.

    He is very instinctive and not logical and borderline incoherent in the way he expresses himself. I think he is sincere. He just has this view that everything would be great if only you had the right planners forming the right institutions in power.
    Sounds suspiciously like a god complex.

    You left out, isn't above doing insider trading on his knowledge of who he's going to pay to do what.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-20-2019 at 01:23 PM.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Have you been living under a rock for the last few years? What made you think RPF is the best place to ask about Soros?
    I'm a bit confused here.

    Are you implying that George Soros is paying me to troll the Ron Paul forums?

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    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.o...e/george-soros



    George Soros is one of the world’s foremost philanthropists. He has given away more than $32 billion of his personal fortune to fund the Open Society Foundations’ work around the world. He is also the founder and primary funder of the Central European University in Budapest, a leading regional center for the study of the social sciences.

    Under his leadership, the Open Society Foundations have supported individuals and organizations across the globe fighting for freedom of expression, accountable government, and societies that promote justice and equality. The foundations have also provided school and university fees for thousands of promising students who would otherwise have been excluded from opportunities because of their identity or where they live.

    This giving has often focused on those who face discrimination purely for who they are. He has supported groups representing Europe’s Roma people, and others pushed to the margins of mainstream society, such as drug users, sex workers, and LGBTI people.

    Soros has experienced such intolerance firsthand. Born in Hungary in 1930, he lived through the Nazi occupation of 1944–1945, which resulted in the murder of over 500,000 Hungarian Jews. His own Jewish family survived by securing false identity papers, concealing their backgrounds, and helping others do the same. Soros later recalled that “instead of submitting to our fate, we resisted an evil force that was much stronger than we were—yet we prevailed. Not only did we survive, but we managed to help others.”

    As the Communists consolidated power in Hungary after the war, Soros left Budapest in 1947 for London, working part-time as a railway porter and as a night-club waiter to support his studies at the London School of Economics. In 1956, he emigrated to the United States, entering the world of finance and investments, where he was to make his fortune.

    In 1970, he launched his own hedge fund and went on to become one of the most successful investors in the history of the United States.

    Soros used his fortune to create the Open Society Foundations—a network of foundations, partners, and projects in more than 100 countries. Their name and work reflect the influence on Soros’s thinking of the philosophy of Karl Popper, which Soros first encountered at the London School of Economics. In his book Open Society and Its Enemies, Popper argues that no philosophy or ideology is the final arbiter of truth, and that societies can only flourish when they allow for democratic governance, freedom of expression, and respect for individual rights—an approach at the core of the Open Society Foundations’ work.

    Soros began his philanthropy in 1979, giving scholarships to black South Africans under apartheid. In the 1980s, he helped promote the open exchange of ideas in Communist Hungary, by funding academic visits to the West, and supporting fledgling independent cultural groups and other initiatives. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, he created the Central European University as a space to foster critical thinking—at that time an alien concept at most universities in the former Communist bloc. With the Cold War over, he gradually expanded his philanthropy to the United States, Africa, Latin America, and Asia, supporting a vast array of new efforts to create more accountable, transparent, and democratic societies. He was one of the early prominent voices to criticize the war on drugs as “arguably more harmful than the drug problem itself,” and helped kick-start America’s medical marijuana movement. In the early 2000s, he became a vocal backer of same-sex marriage efforts. Though his causes evolved over time, they continued to hew closely to his ideals of an open society.

    His giving has reached beyond his own foundations, supporting independent organizations such as Global Witness, the International Crisis Group, the European Council on Foreign Relations, and the Institute for New Economic Thinking.

    Now in his 80s, Soros continues to take an active personal interest in the Open Society Foundations’ work, traveling widely to support their work and advocating for positive policy changes with world leaders both publicly and privately.

    In 2017, the Open Society Foundations announced that Soros had transferred $18 billion of his fortune into an endowment that would be fund the future work of the foundations, bringing his total giving to the foundations since 1984 to over $30 billion.

    Throughout Soros’s philanthropic legacy, one thing has remained constant: a commitment to fighting the world’s most intractable problems. He has been known to emphasize the importance of tackling losing causes. Indeed, many of the issues Soros has taken on—and he would be the first to admit this—are the types of issues for which a complete solution might never emerge.

    “My success in the financial markets has given me a greater degree of independence than most other people,” Soros once wrote. That independence has allowed him to forge his own path towards a world that’s more open, more just, and more equitable for all.

    For more information about George Soros’s activities that are separate from the Open Society Foundations, visit www.georgesoros.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Grisham View Post
    I'm a bit confused here.

    I don't think you're confused at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    New World Order does not respect Private Property Rights.

    Nor does NWO believe in Private Contract Rights.

    It also believes everybody pay “their fair share”.

    It promotes the International Labour Organization, as noted in the USMCA.

    NWO believes private, and public land should be controlled by the Federal government and not be homesteaded, for the sake of Sustainable Development.

    The way to achieve this enormous goal is to build a magnificent wall, funnel people into entry points and document with the federal government. At this point, those workers will be required to earn a minimum wage and pay taxes to the federal government, thus helping to fund the Fed which in turn gives tax money to international organizations.

    If the worker does not work, being documented automatically entitles them to welfare benefits.

    If an employer wishes to engage in private contracts between worker/employee, the employer will be considered a criminal and action will be taken.

    If my goal was to move toward a NWO, building a wall would be my top priority. Republicans in Texas fought Obama tooth and nail when he utilized eminent domain and began building the wall, but now that there is a “republican” president in office trump gets a pass claiming border “security”. Just like Bush did with Patriot Act and TSA.

    As “concerned” as the “republicans” are about this “crisis”, you will not hear a single peep about ending incentives; that is not something the NWO would promote or allow. The wall is an object used for an objective, which is to funnel people in order to process them.
    Last edited by PAF; 03-20-2019 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I don't think you're confused at all.
    You think this is a poll? Suppose our guest, who we prefer to be nice to as long as they deserve it, is polling for Soros. Why shouldn't we tell old George what we think he thinks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Suppose our guest, who we prefer to be nice to as long as they deserve it, is polling for Soros.

    If he's polling for Soros, then why would he cite an ignoramus status?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    If he's polling for Soros, then why would he cite an ignoramus status?
    Maybe he is just socially awkward and doesn't know how to break the ice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    If he's polling for Soros, then why would he cite an ignoramus status?
    Whatever. He seems like a nice guy, and these libertarians know old Soros will read what he wants too, and guard their speech accordingly in any case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Maybe he is just socially awkward and doesn't know how to break the ice?

    Heh heh. Well, at least one other person here knows exactly what is going on. That's what I like about you, T Man.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You think this is a poll? Suppose our guest, who we prefer to be nice to as long as they deserve it, is polling for Soros. Why shouldn't we tell old George what we think he thinks?
    Wow. What I suspected was true. There is someone posting in this thread who actually thinks that George Soros is paying me to troll the Ron Paul forums. Amazing.

    OK, I'll go along with it. Everyone please tell me what they think of my old multi-billionaire drinking buddy, Georgie Boy Soros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Whatever. He seems like a nice guy, and these libertarians know old Soros will read what he wants too, and guard their speech accordingly in any case.
    Maybe Zippy is looking to pass the torch since we discovered he was based in Islamabad?

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