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    Hirono calls out Trump for 'appalling' comments she says encourage violence

    Hirono calls out Trump for 'appalling' comments she says encourage violence

    By Morgan Gstalter - 03/15/19 08:53

    Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) on Thursday accused President Trump of making an implicit threat of violence when he warned that things could get “very bad” if his supporters in the military, police or motorcycle clubs decide to start playing “tough.”

    “I think it’s more than an implicit threat,” Hirono said on MSNBC. “It sounds very much to me that encouraging them to engage in something that’s probably illegal, such as assaulting people ... that sounds like a threat to me. I think it’s appalling.”

    The senator’s comments come after the president suggested that his supporters are tougher than Democrats in an interview with the conservative outlet Breitbart.

    “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny," Trump said in the interview with Breitbart published on Wednesday. "I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher."
    "I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump — I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad," Trump said.
    Hirono asked what Trump’s remarks could have meant “but a strong message inducing people to hurt others?”
    “This is not the kind of language the president of the United States should be employing,” Hirono said. “Words matter.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...nds-like-he-is






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    Blumenthal says Trump's rhetoric 'a factor' in New Zealand massacre
    03/15/2019
    Sen. Richard Blumenthal on Friday tied President Donald Trump's inflammatory rhetoric to a mass shooting at two New Zealand mosques that left 49 dead.
    "Words have consequences like saying we have an invasion on our border and talking about people as though they were different in some fatal way," Blumenthal said during an interview on CNN.


    Pittsburgh Jewish group raising money for New Zealand's Muslim community in wake of mosque shootings
    By Aris Folley - 03/16/19
    A Pittsburgh Jewish group is raising money for the Muslim community in New Zealand after a terror attack that targeted two mosques in Christchurch on Friday and left at least 49 people dead.
    The effort comes months after at least 11 people were killed and several others injured after a gunman opened fire at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh in October. According to the Anti-Defamation League, the shooting is believed to be the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in U.S. history.
    At the time, Muslim groups came forward to raise money for the victims of the synagogue shooting.
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ealands-muslim



    Ivanka Trump gets mixed reaction for tweet condemning New Zealand mosque massacres that killed 49






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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0L8sDPXthw


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    I came here expecting to find the actual article/headline posted.

    I dont see it as a direct threat but the implications arent good.

    Its the authoritarian in Trump that comes creeping out.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    I came here expecting to find the actual article/headline posted.
    Some other Senators have also issued statements.


    Sen. Richard Blumenthal said that "the public discourse from the president on down is a factor in some of these actions," after at least 49 people were killed and 48 were injured at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. | Mark Wilson/Getty Images



    Blumenthal says Trump's rhetoric 'a factor' in New Zealand massacre

    By REBECCA MORIN
    03/15/2019
    Sen. Richard Blumenthal on Friday tied President Donald Trump's inflammatory rhetoric to a mass shooting at two New Zealand mosques that left 49 dead.
    "Words have consequences like saying we have an invasion on our border and talking about people as though they were different in some fatal way," Blumenthal said during an interview on CNN.

    "I think that the public discourse from the president on down is a factor in some of these actions." he added.
    At least 49 people were killed at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and another 48 reportedly injured. A 28-year-old man has been charged with murder, New Zealand police say, and two others have been arrested in connection to the attack. Authorities also defused explosive devices in a car.
    Blumenthal has been a harsh critic on the president. Trump has also frequently criticized the Connecticut senator, often pointing to his comments about serving in the Vietnam War.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ssacre-1222892




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    CBS: Trump deletes tweet linking to Breitbart following New Zealand terror attack


    Trump's tweet to Breitbart News' homepage, which prominently featured an interview with him at the time. Twitter/Screenshot

    "So here's the thing—it's so terrible what's happening," Mr. Trump told the publication. "You know, the left plays a tougher game, it's very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don't play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher. Like with all the nonsense that they do in Congress … with all this invest[igations]—that's all they want to do is –you know, they do things that are nasty. Republicans never played this."
    Breitbart News, which used to be run by former White House strategist Steve Bannon, is a right-wing website that has been criticized for anti-Muslim sentiment and for providing a platform for white nationalism.
    It is unclear exactly what the president meant by playing "tough."









    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    Bit off topic but MAGA has been reaching out to borader constituencies with a Left leaning pivot ahead of 2020. It's an amazing blend of groups coming together under MAGA banner.

    Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

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    Wait ,What . Blumenthal is blaming trump for new zealand ? LOL . That dumbass , nobody in america cares about senators from hawaii or new zealand . Who here really believes trump knew there are mosques in new zealand ? LOL . Is there anything more retarded than a Dem senator ?
    Do something Danke

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    From herhomos statement I see it as she supports leftist violence and only opposes right violence . Good Lord who decided it was a good idea for hawaii to have senators in the first place ?
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Is there anything more retarded than a Dem senator ?
    Don't get carried away now, on many issues NY Republican like MAGA might be on the Left of of an Alabama Democrat Senator.

    An argument could be made that a Dem liberal Senator like Schumer might be more relevant for US than current Likud leaning GOP Foreign Policy think tanks like Jarvanka for example.










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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    From herhomos statement I see it as she supports leftist violence and only opposes right violence . Good Lord who decided it was a good idea for hawaii to have senators in the first place ?
    Unfortunately she has a track record of making extremist statements, especially when it comes to current bipartisan leaning GOP leader who has bent over backwards almost to support some of Dems agenda in latest pivot:

    Sen. Mazie Hirono: Trump Can Call Me 'Crazy Female' but He's an 'Admitted Sexual Predator'
    https://www.newsweek.com/sen-mazie-h...edator-1357464



    But not all Dems from HI are as radical, Dem rising star Rep. Tulsi Gabbard seems pretty cool on some issues.



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    Sexist Hirohito promoting hatred, hostility, sexism , violence.




    'Appalling'

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    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/lauret...vated-n2526516


    Hirohito Approves and Promotes Violence in restaurants and in homes of Conservatives, yet she calls out Trump?
    What a horrible illiterate person , listen to her speak , you'd swear she never read a book in her life
    or took an English class.
    A Senator , pleezzzzzzz... :facepalm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Some other Senators have also issued statements.


    Sen. Richard Blumenthal said that "the public discourse from the president on down is a factor in some of these actions," after at least 49 people were killed and 48 were injured at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. | Mark Wilson/Getty Images



    Blumenthal says Trump's rhetoric 'a factor' in New Zealand massacre

    By REBECCA MORIN
    03/15/2019
    Sen. Richard Blumenthal on Friday tied President Donald Trump's inflammatory rhetoric to a mass shooting at two New Zealand mosques that left 49 dead.
    "Words have consequences like saying we have an invasion on our border and talking about people as though they were different in some fatal way," Blumenthal said during an interview on CNN.

    "I think that the public discourse from the president on down is a factor in some of these actions." he added.
    At least 49 people were killed at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, and another 48 reportedly injured. A 28-year-old man has been charged with murder, New Zealand police say, and two others have been arrested in connection to the attack. Authorities also defused explosive devices in a car.
    Blumenthal has been a harsh critic on the president. Trump has also frequently criticized the Connecticut senator, often pointing to his comments about serving in the Vietnam War.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...ssacre-1222892




    Related


    CBS: Trump deletes tweet linking to Breitbart following New Zealand terror attack


    Trump's tweet to Breitbart News' homepage, which prominently featured an interview with him at the time. Twitter/Screenshot

    "So here's the thing—it's so terrible what's happening," Mr. Trump told the publication. "You know, the left plays a tougher game, it's very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don't play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher. Like with all the nonsense that they do in Congress … with all this invest[igations]—that's all they want to do is –you know, they do things that are nasty. Republicans never played this."
    Breitbart News, which used to be run by former White House strategist Steve Bannon, is a right-wing website that has been criticized for anti-Muslim sentiment and for providing a platform for white nationalism.
    It is unclear exactly what the president meant by playing "tough."











    Bit off topic but MAGA has been reaching out to borader constituencies with a Left leaning pivot ahead of 2020. It's an amazing blend of groups coming together under MAGA banner.

    Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality
    I meant more so from libertarian or even conservative circles.

    I kind of expect Dems to criticize Trump if for no other reason than partisan politics.

    Thinking that the Liberty Report may talk about it.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Sexist Hirohito promoting hatred, hostility, sexism , violence.




    'Appalling'
    Hmm....
    "To the women of this country... SHUT UP and step up. Do the right thing.. for a change."
    "To the _________ of this country...SHUT UP and step up. Do the right thing...for a change."

    Nope. I guess you can only get away with telling men to shut up and step up and do the right thing for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Unfortunately she has a track record of making extremist statements, especially when it comes to current bipartisan leaning GOP leader who has bent over backwards almost to support some of Dems agenda in latest pivot:

    https://www.newsweek.com/sen-mazie-h...edator-1357464



    But not all Dems from HI are as radical, Dem rising star Rep. Tulsi Gabbard seems pretty cool on some issues.
    Uh , yeah all dems from hawaii are the same . You can bank on it .
    Do something Danke

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    I can't believe anyone takes her seriously. How she got elected I am assuming is from people simply selecting the "D" candidate since I cannot see anyone in their right mind who would admit to voting for someone so partisanly mentally challenged as this woman. Her and Maxine Waters are the only two people I would say this about. AOC is right up there but not this extreme.
    Last edited by kahless; 03-16-2019 at 05:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    From herhomos statement I see it as she supports leftist violence and only opposes right violence . Good Lord who decided it was a good idea for hawaii to have senators in the first place ?
    yeah, is this the same lefty b.s. that supported "getting in their face" and all that garbage?

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    I meant more so from libertarian or even conservative circles.

    I kind of expect Dems to criticize Trump if for no other reason than partisan politics.

    Thinking that the Liberty Report may talk about it.
    Conservative/Libertarian landscape has been somewhat changed since GOP-Likud marriage under MAGA regime.
    It's also a politically risky issue for most but after recent 'emergency funding' GOP defections there might be some criticism of MAGA from GOP side, won't be surprised if it's from some old foe like like Jeb Bush perhaps who reportedly was aso named in NZ shooter's manifesto.



    MAGA fighting back against media attacks:

    Trump Assails News Accounts Linking Him to New Zealand Massacre

    March 18, 2019
    The Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in New Zealand. They will have to work very hard to prove that one. So Ridiculous!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 18, 2019


    Trump sees immigrants as invaders. White-nationalist terrorists do, too.

    The president’s language sends dangerous signals

    March 17 The massacre of at least 50 Muslims at two New Zealand mosques during Friday prayers is just the latest high-profile white-nationalist terrorist attack. From the January 2017 mass murder of six Canadian Muslims at a Quebec City mosque to the mass murder of 11 Jewish congregants at Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, there was one theme that tied together all of the terrorists in these cases: The suspected gunmen in all these attacks saw immigrants as invaders of their countries.
    President Trump expressed his condolences Friday over the New Zealand attacks, and he called the slayings “a horrible, horrible thing.” But Trump also used language that made clear that he sees immigrants as a threat to the United States: “People hate the word ‘invasion,’ but that’s what it is,” he said. The White House says it’s “outrageous” to connect the president to the New Zealand massacre. But when Trump’s rhetoric — about Central American migrants and about Muslims — is so ugly, it’s clear he’s not capable of discouraging radical racists who see his hostility toward immigrants as a welcome sign for their own xenophobia.

    Trump has a long history of lies about Muslims. “I think Islam hates us,” he famously told CNN’s Anderson Cooper in March 2016, before he ever entered the White House. He has insisted on telling a complete fabrication, that thousands of American Muslims in New Jersey were cheering the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on television (such a thing never happened). “I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of [Muslim] people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering,” he said at a campaign rally in Alabama in 2015, in what PolitiFact rated a “pants on fire” lie. Trump also picked up and enthusiastically pushed the “birther” lie that Barack Obama was a Kenyan-born Muslim, which many white supremacists still believe.

    His ban on travel by people from seven countries, five with Muslim majorities, started out as a proposal to ban any Muslims from entering the United States, and he revised it to the version that became law only after courts ruled that his language about Muslims showed the ban was improper.

    Trump, obviously, did not pull the trigger in any of these recent acts of white-nationalist terrorism. But his lackadaisical response to them has been all the worse because many of the accused perpetrators say they find his rhetoric and success in U.S. politics inspiring.

    The 28-year-old Australian who New Zealand authorities say brazenly live-streamed his mass murder on Friday published a manifesto praising Trump as well as Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian white supremacist who murdered 77 people in Norway in 2011 because of his hatred of Muslims and multiculturalism. Like Trump, the alleged New Zealand shooter referred to immigrants as “invaders.” He said he admired Trump “as a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose,” though “dear god no,” not as “a policymaker and leader.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...=.89fef593fb39

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    While there was this news report out few weeks ago where this alleged suspect claimed to be MAGA supporter:

    USCG Lt. charged with terrorism


    Trump had already deleted link to the Breitbart interview that left wing CNN panel is nitpicking above:

    Trump deletes tweet linking to Breitbart following New Zealand terror attack
    The president rarely deletes tweets except to fix grammatical or punctuation errors.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-d...terror-attack/

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This might be redatcted version of video, based on print media reporting CNN's Erin certainly crossed the line:


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/erin-b...hite-supremacy

    Erin Burnett: Trump's 'Invasion' Talk in Aftermath of New Zealand Massacre is 'Just White Supremacy'

    The CNN host said Trump went past dog-whistling to racists when he echoed a phrase from the New Zealand shooter’s manifesto on Friday.

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    The chorus is getting louder:


    Hollywood star Jim Carrey blames Trump for attacks like Christchurch

    08:21, Mar 20 2019


    Starring Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind turns 15 this year.

    Jim Carrey believes US President Donald Trump's continued encouragement of divisiveness is the cause of events like last Friday's terror attacks in Christchurch.
    After initially paying tribute online (via a poignant self-portrait) to the victims of the shooting at the two Garden City mosques, the Canadian-born Hollywood actor then switched from grief to anger.
    "Innocent people are now being slaughtered, families ruined and children's lives destroyed. All in his name," he posted on Sunday (US Time). above a cartoon depicting the 45th American President as a fiery comet screaming toward earth, with a swastika symbol emblazoned on his forehead.
    "If the Craven Republican Senate allows this vile miscreant to continue encouraging divisiveness, the Trump Presidency will become an EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT," the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind actor continued.


    John Legend accuses Trump of 'demonising brown people' after Christchurch attack
    Mar 21 2019


    In Wake Of Mass Shooting, New Zealand's Ardern Calls For Global Fight Against Racism
    March 20, 2019

    Vincent Thian/AP
    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern returned to Christchurch for the second time since a gunman killed 50 people in an attack on two mosques last Friday.
    Her first stop was at Cashmere High School, which lost two current students and one former student in last week's shooting, NPR's Rob Schmitz reported.
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/20/70506...t-against-raci


    In the shadow of Christchurch, let’s drive racism out of Australian politics

    Why does it seem so hard for people to grasp the connection between hate-filled speech and hate-filled violence? The alleged attacker who carried out Friday’s massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand, was acting on a toxic belief system — one that has been long nurtured by opportunists in politics and the media, in Australia and elsewhere.
    Those innocent victims — the toll now stands at 50— reaped what others had sowed.
    The alleged gunman, a 28-year-old Australian, saturated himself in the verbal violence of Islamophobia and white supremacy. His manifesto name-checks figures from outside Australia: people such as the United States’ Candace Owens and Norway’s murderous Anders Breivik.
    But there are also those at home who’ve created the soil to nourish violence.
    Last August, a Queensland senator, Fraser Anning, used his first speech to Parliament to call for a return to a “European Christian” immigration system and a ban on Muslims migrating to Australia, even managing to work in the repulsive phrase “final solution.”
    He was condemned, but he’s still in Parliament. In the hours after the Christchurch attack, he used his parliamentary letterhead to present his response, essentially blaming the victims for their own deaths.
    In its general programming, Sky News Australia has turned into our version of Fox News. (Both are controlled by the Australian-turned-American media baron Rupert Murdoch.) Sky’s attention-seeking programming even included an interview last year with Blair Cottrell, a Hitler-admiring, far-right extremist who had been found guilty of inciting contempt, revulsion or ridicule of Muslims.
    In a Murdoch-owned tabloid in Melbourne, prominent columnist Andrew Bolt has written of “us” disappearing as “a tidal wave of immigrants sweeps away what’s left of our national identity.”
    Meanwhile, the politician in charge of immigration, Peter Dutton, has seized on criminal behavior by some young immigrants in Melbourne to condemn a wave of “African gang violence” so severe that Victorians were “scared to go out to restaurants” — a statement that was widely mocked.
    It was also Dutton who suggested Australia should provide special help to white farmers from South Africa — arguing that they were being persecuted and needed help from a “civilized country” like Australia.
    The Australian media and politicians, in other words, have form when it comes to flirting with racism. Sometimes the racism is explicit, as seen in the rise of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation; sometimes it’s more guarded.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...lian-politics/





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    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/a-week-a...yer-nationally

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    let’s drive racism out of Australian politics




    Can we reintroduce prohibition as well? It might be a good time.
    Last edited by timosman; 03-20-2019 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    With help from Disney, concerns of WaPo article above about alleged role of Rupert's Fox media in whipping up 'racism' in Australia/NZ/US could already be being addressed LOL

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6769038


    Donna Brazile: Why I am excited to join Fox News and take part in a civil - and sensible - debate

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    Hirono makes the list for top 10 morons in elected office.



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    NYT seems to have beaten Dems in extreme rhetoric:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/21/o...nd-attack.html

    Is Trump Causing White Terrorism?

    March 21, 2019
    This week on “The Argument,” is President Trump partly to blame for white supremacist attacks like the New Zealand mosque shooting? Michelle Goldberg argues that the president bridges racist ideology and the internet’s nihilistic troll culture. Ross Douthat thinks European anxieties toward immigrants and Islam have gone global. David Leonhardt points to data that shows rising hate crimes and racist speech parallel to Trump’s rise. And returning guest Jamelle Bouie likens Trump to Andrew Johnson, a president whose indifference toward racist violence helped embolden it.

    2020 candidate Hickenlooper: Trump 'should be ashamed of himself' for white nationalism comments




    NYT forgot to mention MAGA led changes at this years CPAC 2019 and GOP's pivot to liberall side:

    'Right wing' conservatives Tucker Carlson, Ann Coulter, and Alessandra Bocci banned from CPAC 2019; Obama green jobs czar Van Jones invited







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