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  1. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Ron Paul had a policy of shaping immigration to protect a white majority? Link please. I haven't opposed any of Ron Paul's actual policies. And you are the one who keeps bring up the race card. You get mad and lie when I point it out.
    You keep raising accusations of racism into a factual discussion about race playing a role in people actions and policy. If you emotionally cannot handle facts without blurting out racist and Stormfront then perhaps this is not the discussion for you.

    Here you are post #135 interjecting Stormfront again but there is many more. You just can't help yourself.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6767628

    Ron's policies. Unsaid but it does play a role in protecting that majority.

    http://web.archive.org/web/201201050...s/immigration/

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul 2012
    A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY

    A nation without borders is no nation at all.

    If elected President, Ron Paul will work to implement the following common sense reforms:

    * Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

    * No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

    * Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration. As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

    * End Birthright Citizenship – As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.

    * Protect Lawful Immigrants – As President, Ron Paul will encourage legal immigration by streamlining the entry process without rewarding lawbreakers.

    As long as our borders remain wide open, the security and safety of the American people are at stake.

    As President, Ron Paul will address immigration by fighting for effective solutions that protect our nation, uphold the rule of law, and respect every American citizen’s civil liberties.
    http://web.archive.org/web/200803121...ration-reform/

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul 2008 Border Security
    The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

    -- Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

    -- Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.

    -- No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.

    -- No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.

    -- End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. Illegally will remain strong.

    -- Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.



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  3. #212
    New Zealand authorities have reminded citizens that they face up to 10 years in prison for "knowingly" possessing a copy of the New Zealand mosque shooting video - and up to 14 years in prison for sharing it. Corporations (such as web hosts) face an additional $200,000 ($137,000 US) fine under the same law.

    Copies of Tarrant's livestream, along with his lengthy manifesto, began to rapidly circulate on various file hosting sites following the attack, which as we noted Friday - were quickly scrubbed from mainstream platforms such as Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Scribd. YouTube has gone so far as to intentionally disable search filters so that people cannot find Christchurch shooting materials - including footage of suspected multiple shooters as well as the arrest of Tarrant and other suspects.
    On Saturday, journalist Nick Monroe reported that New Zealand police have warned citizens that they face imprisonment for distributing the video, while popular New Zealand Facebook group Wellington Live notes that "NZ police would like to remind the public that it is an offence to share an objectional publication which includes the horrific video from yesterday's attack. If you see this video, report it immediately. Do not download it. Do not share it. If you are found to have a copy of the video or to have shared it, you face fines & potential imprisonment."
    ��New Zealanders threatened with 10 YEARS IN JAIL if they have the shooting video. ��

    "Anybody found “knowingly” in possession of objectionable material can receive a maximum of 10 years imprisonment."

    14 YEARS IN JAIL if you are a "dealer" of the video https://t.co/ZIlKtsUaKt pic.twitter.com/Jus4VLUvZB
    — Nick Monroe (@nickmon1112) March 16, 2019
    We would also like to remind the public that it is an offence to distribute an objectionable publication and that is punishable by imprisonment.

    Once again I want to reassure the public that a large Police presence remains in the city for the time being.
    — New Zealand Police (@nzpolice) March 15, 2019
    Dissenter blocked in New Zealand
    Along with the censorship of online materials and investigation of content sharing platforms such as BitChute and 8chan - where the shooter posted a link to the livestream of his attack, social discussion service Dissenter has been blocked in New Zealand. Created by the people behind Twitter competitor Gab.ai - Dissenter is a browser extension which pops up a third-party comments section for any website where people can discuss content outside of the control of the website owner.

    On Saturday, Gab's official accounts (@gab and @getongab) reported that "New Zealand ISPs have banned dissenter.com until it is "censorship compliant.""
    Getting reports that New Zealand ISPs have banned https://t.co/3NwGyCZbgI until it is “censorship compliant,” despite the fact that Dissenter was in no way involved with this week’s tragic events in NZ. pic.twitter.com/IbL3s0gp1D
    — Dissenter.com is �� by Gab (@getongab) March 16, 2019
    Milo banned
    Meanwhile, far-right commentator Milo Yiannopoulos was banned from Australia in the wake of the New Zealand shootings after he said on Facebook that attacks like Christchurch happen because "the establishment panders to and mollycoddles extremist leftism and barbaric, alien religious cultures."
    Australia's immigration minister, David Coleman, said in a Saturday statement that Yiannopoulos's comments were "appalling and forment hatred and division," adding "Milo Yiannopoulos will not be allowed to enter Australia for his proposed tour this year."

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...b-hosts-warned
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  4. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Then your example isn't worth much compared to the data on how immigrants vote.
    It's worth plenty on how to keep your state red. Be better organized.
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  5. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    New Zealand authorities have reminded citizens that they face up to 10 years in prison for "knowingly" possessing a copy of the New Zealand mosque shooting video - and up to 14 years in prison for sharing it. Corporations (such as web hosts) face an additional $200,000 ($137,000 US) fine under the same law.
    If they are gonna do all that over a video...just think about what they are gonna do about firearms.

  6. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Okay. So a state with very few hispanics, or blacks, or any other ethnic group, elected a bunch of Bolsheviks who are voting to ban guns but the gun bans are not in effect yet just like Trump's bumpfire ban is not in effect yet. Got it.
    There is a lot of cross talk going on here.

    Here is the situation:

    1 - A new crop of leftists have been voted into Concord.

    2 - They are not what NH democrats used to be, by that I mean, not wild eyed Maoists.

    3 - They are proposing a full tilt-California style "woke" agenda.

    4 - They were voted in for, what I conclude to be, two reasons: anti Trumpism, and shifting demographics in the largest urban areas of the state, even if those figures overall have only shifted the demographic 5 percent. Free staters were only looking to change 2 percent, for example.

    5 - They are the current extant threat to my liberties at this point in time, based on what they say they are going to do.

    6 - Effective "push back" and a powerful veto pen may de-rail the agenda...I am doing all I possibly can to make that happen.

    7 - Importing millions and millions of more people that vote en bloc for big government is NOT an effective strategy to reduce big government.

    8 - I would love @Keith and stuff to weigh in, but he hasn't been on in months.

    9 - Mexico is failed narco state, Honduras is a blood bath with some of the highest murder rates in the world. The invasion at the southern border is real and a clear and present danger. It is one of the few responsibilities of the FedGov under the constitution, to protect against invasion.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-16-2019 at 07:01 PM.

  7. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It's worth plenty on how to keep your state red. Be better organized.
    Organization will help but it won't defeat raw numbers forever.
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  9. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    If they are gonna do all that over a video...just think about what they are gonna do about firearms.
    They will send SWAT and then either they will win because gun owners surrender or a civil war will start.
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  10. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It's worth plenty on how to keep your state red. Be better organized.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Organization will help but it won't defeat raw numbers forever.
    You also have no way to ensure that the enemy is poorly organized forever.
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  11. #219
    It is funny to me people acting like New Zealand politicians are so sophisticated for immediately banning guns. All they did was exploit a tragic event to pass what they wanted to pass before. New Zealand is one of the most economically free countries and they decided to elect a literal socialist because nothing fails like success. I would bet with almost certainty that their leader wanted to do this long before this event.

    "Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded." -FA Hayek

  12. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    It's worth plenty on how to keep your state red. Be better organized.
    Organization won't overcome what happened to California.

  13. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    It is funny to me people acting like New Zealand politicians are so sophisticated for immediately banning guns. All they did was exploit a tragic event to pass what they wanted to pass before. New Zealand is one of the most economically free countries and they decided to elect a literal socialist because nothing fails like success. I would bet with almost certainty that their leader wanted to do this long before this event.

    "Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded." -FA Hayek
    She said she did.

    nothing fails like success
    Why do you suppose that is?

    Plain old stupidity?

    Or what, one of our members, I'm pretty sure it was @RJB , claimed it was the urge of some people that just can not abide peace, quiet and prosperity. You know the type of people, the ones who will stir $#@! and start drama, just for the sake of stirring $#@! and starting drama.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 03-16-2019 at 11:14 PM.

  14. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I haven't watched the video, but it looks to me like he was using a pump action shotgun.

  15. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I haven't watched the video, but it looks to me like he was using a pump action shotgun.
    What difference does that make?
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  16. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    She said she did.



    Why do you suppose that is?

    Plain old stupidity?

    Or what, one of our members, I'm pretty sure it was @RJB , claimed it was the urge of some people that just can not abide peace, quiet and prosperity. You the type of people, the ones who will stir $#@! and start drama, just for the sake of stirring $#@! and starting drama.
    Wealth breeds stupidity if measures aren't taken to fight that tendency, the entire society can become composed of the equivalent of spoiled brats.

    The book "The Evolutionary Psychology Behind Politics" explains a lot of the reasons why.
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  18. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I haven't watched the video, but it looks to me like he was using a pump action shotgun.
    I believe he was using a variety of weapons, but the point or focus of Liberals is 'assault' , they will go after
    shotguns and butter knives tomorrow.

  19. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    Why do you suppose that is?

    Plain old stupidity?
    I don't think people understand what makes a country successful. Freedom is hard to understand. Smart sounding rationalizations sound good in the moment and people give in. People are very short-sighted.

    You the type of people, the ones who will stir $#@! and start drama, just for the sake of stirring $#@! and starting drama.
    Is that you a typo? I have never tried to $#@! stir drama. I didn't read any part of this thread other than the title before I posted.

  20. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Is that you a typo? I have never tried to $#@! stir drama. I didn't read any part of this thread other than the title before I posted.
    I read it as missing a word: "You know the type of people"
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  21. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I read it as missing a word: "You know the type of people"
    Too funny , I wasn't sure what to make of that either ; 'you the type' , typo / or terrible grammar,
    or like you say the missing word.....



    I've not noticed Krug stirring sht........


    .

  22. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    There is a lot of cross talk going on here.

    Here is the situation:

    1 - A new crop of leftists have been voted into Concord.

    2 - They are not what NH democrats used to be, by that I mean, not wild eyed Maoists.

    3 - They are proposing a full tilt-California style "woke" agenda.

    4 - They were voted in for, what I conclude to be, two reasons: anti Trumpism, and shifting demographics in the largest urban areas of the state, even if those figures overall have only shifted the demographic 5 percent. Free staters were only looking to change 2 percent, for example.

    5 - They are the current extant threat to my liberties at this point in time, based on what they say they are going to do.

    6 - Effective "push back" and a powerful veto pen may de-rail the agenda...I am doing all I possibly can to make that happen.

    7 - Importing millions and millions of more people that vote en bloc for big government is NOT an effective strategy to reduce big government.

    8 - I would love @Keith and stuff to weigh in, but he hasn't been on in months.

    9 - Mexico is failed narco state, Honduras is a blood bath with some of the highest murder rates in the world. The invasion at the southern border is real and a clear and present danger. It is one of the few responsibilities of the FedGov under the constitution, to protect against invasion.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

  23. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You also have no way to ensure that the enemy is poorly organized forever.


    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.

  24. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Too funny , I wasn't sure what to make of that either ; 'you the type' , typo / or terrible grammar,
    or like you say the missing word.....



    I've not noticed Krug stirring sht........


    .
    It confused me for a moment but AF doesn't use that kind of grammar and I couldn't think of a sensible typo other than a missing word.

    It happens to everyone from time to time.

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  25. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It confused me for a moment but AF doesn't use that kind of grammar and I couldn't think of a sensible typo other than a missing word.

    It happens to everyone from time to time.

    i've nuvr din that's


    I know, good catch, I didn't think it was characteristic either, but some of our posters
    use 'sht' for grammar, I can't always remember which ones, AF Is a good egg' .



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  27. #233
    As the world reels from the tragic terrorist attack against two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, much attention has been given to sensational information about the single named suspect, Brenton Tarrant. However, the hyperfocus on Tarrant distracts from the fact that the Australian national was arrested along with other suspects.
    An investigation and analysis by Disobedient Media indicates that Tarrant and the group he worked with likely have professional military connections, are part of the same cell that perpetrated a February 22nd break in of the North Korean embassy in Spain and potentially have intelligence ties to various agencies that cooperate under the UKUSA Agreement popularly known as Five Eyes (FVEY).
    I. Signs Of Professional Military Connections
    Despite the characterization of Tarrant in the media, he was no run-of-the-mill white supremacist. Images posted by Tarrant online just before the attack to a Twitter account which had been dormant until March 12 showed that he was in possession of high-capacity magazines and a semi-automatic assault rifle. The weapon and magazines would have been classified as either a "restricted weapon" or a "military-style-semi-automatic" (MSSA) under New Zealand law. A person who possesses or uses a firearm in New Zealand needs to hold a firearms license issued by police. Licenses normally last for ten years unless revoked. Foreign nationals may apply from overseas for a one year license based on their possession of an existing license in their home country.
    Suspicions are inevitably raised over how exactly Tarrant and his alleged co-conspirators managed to stockpile the military-grade weapons and ammunition used in the attack in a country with comparatively strict gun laws. Tarrant, who supposedly began to radicalize starting in 2016 and was allegedly unemployed would have had his radical tendencies discovered with a proper background investigation. Police say that another suspect in the shooting was an individual who acquired the necessary Category A license and began to legally stockpile weapons used in the attack.
    The Australian also engaged in extensive travel abroad to a number of areas that should have raised red flags with intelligence services. Countries visited by Tarrant included Pakistan, North Korea, Turkey, parts of Africa, Portugal, Spain and France. The extensive travel and access to military grade firearms should have made detection by law enforcement and intelligence services nearly impossible to avoid.
    II. Similarities Between Spain And New Zealand Operations
    There are a number of analogous facts shared by the attack on the North Korean embassy in Spain and the terror event in Christchurch which suggest that the same team was involved in both incidents. In both cases the perpetrators showed that they were well versed in "breach and clear" tactics against buildings filled with people. In both cases the buildings were cleared efficiently and quickly even though the goal of the North Korean incident was focused on intelligence gathering as opposed to mass murder. Aerial analysis of the North Korean embassy in Spain, the Al Noor Mosque and the Linwood Islamic Centre show that all buildings are of similar size and each would have required the same know-how and training to breach.
    In securing a getaway from the North Korean embassy, the attacking team of approximately ten individuals utilized two luxury vehicles. In the Christchurch attack, the suspects used two vehicles for transport in which live explosive devices were found. The similar number of vehicles used in both incidents points to a common number of participants.
    III. In Both Attacks, Perpetuators Are Likely Military Cells
    The groups involved in both the Spain embassy break-in and the Christchurch terror attacks appear to be military or paramilitary in nature. The March 13, 2019 exposť of the embassy break-in by El PaŪs directly cited sources involved with the investigation who stated that the attackers were likely a "military cell" with at least two members who were tied to the CIA. Sources such as the New York Post and Washington Post have both run stories attempting to attribute the break-in to a shadowy group of North Korean dissidents. But this explanation is unconvincing since this group would not not have the practical military know-how or muscle required to breach and clear the embassy in such an efficient manner.
    Analysis of documentation of the Christchurch terror attack also indicates that the perpetrators were part of a military style cell. Although much has been made of Brenton Tarrant's live-streamed attack, no other individuals were featured in the film. Video footage being distributed online shows two individuals carrying firearms during the attacks. Both are wearing baseball caps. This means that neither can be Tarrant, who was filming himself during the attack and wore a helmet with a mounted camera, not a hat.
    Police speculated during the attacks that there were up to three suspects. But footage and photos that have emerged along with early reports of other suspected locations where incidents occurred indicates that the number of attackers was likely larger. One image shows a man with shaven head in military-style camouflage fatigues being detained by New Zealand police as the attack was contained and halted. Another video shows police standing around a suspect lying on the pavement. As the individual videoing the scene passes, officers roll the apparently lifeless man over onto his back, showing his arm flop as he moved. If the suspect had been alive then police would have restrained him with handcuffs before moving him. Authorities have made no announcement about casualties among the attackers.
    There were also rumors of other incidents which suggest that the attack might have been larger than is being disclosed. Maori News noted reports that an additional shooting was ongoing at Christchurch Hospital. This went largely unacknowledged by the international media. In the aftermath of the attacks, police in Auckland, New Zealand also responded to a bomb scare at Auckland train station.
    These facts all indicate that the Christchurch terror attacks were perpetrated by a larger group that would be similar in size to the one involved with the break-in at the North Korean embassy.
    It is also worth noting that the location of police stations in and around Christchurch shows that there were several just a few blocks away from the Al Noor Mosque and Linwood Islamic Centre. This is about a seven to eight minute drive with normal traffic. But witness statements say that police took over 20 minutes to arrive at the scene. Ambulance services took over half an hour to arrive at the scene despite the fact that hospitals were in even closer proximity to the attack locations than police stations.
    The failure of police to deploy with greater haste or intercept the attackers while they moved from their first target to the second raises serious questions about the reasons for inadequate law enforcement reactions. Normally an incident on such a scale would trigger an immediate lockdown of the affected city and a total isolation of the affected area.
    If any attackers were not filming themselves, resupplying from their vehicles or firing on innocent civilians while driving in transit as Tarrant did it is likely that they would have been able to effect an escape.
    IV. Potential Connection To Organizations Affiliated With FVEY
    Many of the countries visited by Tarrant play host to the operations of agencies with connections to FVEY. FVEY members include the US, the UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. FVEY also have a number of Tier B nations who participate in "focused cooperation" on computer network exploitation, including Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Hungry, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherland, Norway, Poland, Portugal, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey.
    Outside of the UKUSA Agreement, FVEY members are known to cooperate with Tier B nations on their own. Great Britain has had a deep relationship with Spain since World War II, when Britain bought off the Spanish to remain neutral and then used the country as an escape route for downed Allied airmen. British agency GCHQ also collaborates independently with counterparts in Germany, France, Spain and Sweden. British-Russian double agent Sergei Skripal was also revealed to have been collaborating with Spanish intelligence officers in the years leading up to his poisoning in 2018.
    Brenton Tarrant's travels to Turkey, France, Spain and Portugal raise questions about potential connections to intelligence services who collaborate loosely under the FVEY intelligence sharing agreement. Additionally, his time spent in Pakistan, a country with a long history of deep CIA involvement creates an even stronger possibility that Tarrant might have had ties to military or intelligence organizations.
    Since Tarrant had at least one New Zealander acting as an accomplice, it is possible that there may have been other New Zealand nationals associated with his group. Outside of their collaboration through the FVEY framework, New Zealand's Special Air Service has been deployed to Afghanistan where they worked directly under the CIA at a base in Bamiyan province according to claims published in 2011.


    If individuals who had a past or present affiliation with New Zealand's intelligence or military services were involved with a military cell that participated in the embassy and Christchurch attacks, it would provide a potential explanation for the extraordinarily slow police response time which caused an increased number of casualties. It would also give context to reports that New Zealand police are refusing to provide footage of Brenton Tarrant's attack to US authorities who are seeking it for training purposes.
    V. Conclusion: Tragedy Exploited By Special Interests
    Whether or not one believes that the Christchurch terror attacks have more to them than meets the eye, it is undeniable that the tragedy is now being exploited by various parties for personal gain. New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has taken the opportunity to promote increased gun control with a total ban on semi-automatic weapons. Ardern formerly worked as a policy advisor to Tony Blair, who has himself been a willing collaborator with British intelligence services. Ardern has not yet commented on the fact that New Zealand security and emergency services caused the death toll to rise substantially higher than needed due to an incredibly slow response time.
    In addition to the debate about gun control, pundits have begun to harass President Donald Trump, accusing him of having some kind of ideological connection to Brenton Tarrant due to the suspect's fascist loyalties. These efforts only serve to intensify efforts to derail the ongoing crisis involving the Korean peace process.
    With the operational similarities between the the Spanish embassy and Christchurch attacks in mind one cannot help but observe that global attention has been ripped away from potential peace talks between the US and North Korea. The gross showmanship of the Tarrant in broadcasting murders for the world to see was an intentional attempt to capture attention and shift global discussion by committing a heinous act of terror. As the Christchurch attacks unfolded, North Korean Vice Foreign Minister Choe Son Hui made an announcement blaming US administration officials for a breakdown in denuclearization talks and threatened to break off negotiations to resume testing. These comments were immediately highlighted by Russian news agency TASS and the international press. Other comments clarifying that personal relations between Mr. Kim and Mr. Trump were still good and their chemistry "mysteriously wonderful” were almost totally ignored in coverage of the press conference.
    The official facts of the Christchurch terror attacks will likely shift over time in the same way that official narratives fed to the public by federal investigators changed constantly in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. But the apparent military and intelligence connections of perpetrators in the attack, the discrepancies between the official reports about the size of the group of suspects and footage of the event as it unfolded and the operational similarities to the North Korean embassy incident will continue to erode confidence that the public is being given all the facts.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...church-attacks
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  28. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    There is a lot of cross talk going on here.

    Here is the situation:

    1 - A new crop of leftists have been voted into Concord.

    2 - They are not what NH democrats used to be, by that I mean, not wild eyed Maoists.

    3 - They are proposing a full tilt-California style "woke" agenda.

    4 - They were voted in for, what I conclude to be, two reasons: anti Trumpism, and shifting demographics in the largest urban areas of the state, even if those figures overall have only shifted the demographic 5 percent. Free staters were only looking to change 2 percent, for example.

    5 - They are the current extant threat to my liberties at this point in time, based on what they say they are going to do.

    6 - Effective "push back" and a powerful veto pen may de-rail the agenda...I am doing all I possibly can to make that happen.

    7 - Importing millions and millions of more people that vote en bloc for big government is NOT an effective strategy to reduce big government.

    8 - I would love @Keith and stuff to weigh in, but he hasn't been on in months.

    9 - Mexico is failed narco state, Honduras is a blood bath with some of the highest murder rates in the world. The invasion at the southern border is real and a clear and present danger. It is one of the few responsibilities of the FedGov under the constitution, to protect against invasion.
    The Bolsheviks are trying to do the same in Western Europe.

  29. #235
    Pittsburgh Jewish group raising money for New Zealand's Muslim community in wake of mosque shootings

    By Aris Folley - 03/16/19



    A Pittsburgh Jewish group is raising money for the Muslim community in New Zealand after a terror attack that targeted two mosques in Christchurch on Friday and left at least 49 people dead.
    The Jewish Federation of Greater Pittsburgh said in a statement on Friday that it will be accepting donations “to help the Muslim community of Christchurch, New Zealand.”
    “The Greater Pittsburgh Jewish community was shocked and deeply saddened by the horrific Islamophobic attack in Christchurch, New Zealand, yesterday resulting in the senseless murder of at least 49 people,” the group said in the statement. “We stand in solidarity with the Muslim community in Christchurch, in Pittsburgh, and around the world.”
    The effort comes months after at least 11 people were killed and several others injured after a gunman opened fire at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh in October. According to the Anti-Defamation League, the shooting is believed to be the deadliest anti-Semitic attack in U.S. history.
    At the time, Muslim groups came forward to raise money for the victims of the synagogue shooting.


    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ealands-muslim



    Ivanka Trump gets mixed reaction for tweet condemning New Zealand mosque massacres that killed 49













    Top youtube news currently, NZ PM speaks wearing hijab:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0L8sDPXthw


    Australian senator egged after controversial remarks
    Warning: Video contains violent content not suitable for all viewers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKuEYZtyWOg

  30. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What difference does that make?
    Just pointing out the absurdity of banning something that wasn't used, from people that didn't do anything wrong.

    Someday maybe the whole world will step back from Sunday School punishments...because one retard ran with scissors doesn't mean we all have to use safety scissors.

  31. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Is that you a typo? I have never tried to $#@! stir drama. I didn't read any part of this thread other than the title before I posted.
    Yes, that was a typo, as SS and Strato pointed out.

    It was supposed to read "you know the type of people"

  32. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Just pointing out the absurdity of banning something that wasn't used, from people that didn't do anything wrong.

    Someday maybe the whole world will step back from Sunday School punishments...because one retard ran with scissors doesn't mean we all have to use safety scissors.
    I understand, I'm just pointing out that since the agenda was predetermined it wouldn't have mattered if he used a bow and arrows.

    I think that at least one of them did use a semi-auto though.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I believe he was using a variety of weapons, but the point or focus of Liberals is 'assault' , they will go after
    shotguns and butter knives tomorrow.
    Looks like they're moving quickly on gun laws changes .. and very likely would get full support from US leadership (ironically same leadership that the alleged shooter cited as 'symbol of white identity' in his manifesto while criticizing his policies going by NBC reporting).


  34. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Australian senator egged after controversial remarks
    Warning: Video contains violent content not suitable for all viewers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKuEYZtyWOg
    LOL - He slapped the egg thrower like a bitch.

    That said, I don't know what exactly his "controversial" remarks were... maybe "they that sow the wind , shall reap the whirlwind".

    Diversity is not strength. Import millions of people, many of whom have been at each other's throats for centuries, and this is bound to happen.

    As the nation Balkanizes and divides even further, the only way to keep a lid on all of it is increasing hard assed measures and crack downs.



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