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    UK Parliament Rejects May's Brexit

    The vote is in... and May has lost by a 149 vote margin - 391-242.
    "I profoundly regret the decision this house has taken tonight"

    Another 3-digit defeat. While the Jan. 15 loss was the biggest ever, at least May can argue this is only the biggest in 2 months.
    "This is an issue of grave importance for the future of our country," May says, as she says the vote tomorrow on whether to accept or reject a no-deal Brexit will be a free vote.
    The good news, at least for the kneejerk reaction algos, is that the Ayes rose by 40 from 202 to 242, while the nays declined by 41 from 433 to 391, meaning that sentiment may be shifting if only a little, which in turn has helped push cable higher in kneejerk response as expectations are that tomorrow's no deal brexit vote won't pass, helping a modest kneejerk reaction higher in cable:

    Here's the wording of the motion the House of Commons will vote on tomorrow:
    ďThat this house declines to approve leaving the European Union without a Withdrawal Agreement and a framework on the future relationship on March 29, 2019 and notes that leaving without a deal remains the default in U.K. and EU law unless this House and the EU ratify an agreement.Ē
    May then listed a succession of possible choices for the House. When she asks if it wants a second referendum it elicits a chorus of both YES and NO from different corners of the chamber.
    So what happens next?
    May says there will, as promised, be a vote tomorrow on a no-deal Brexit and a vote on Thursday on delaying Brexit, which consensus now sees as failing and resulting in a vote to extend the Brexit process, although whether and how that happens remains to be seen.
    If MPs vote to extend the Article 50 process, in addition to the UKís approval, every EU member would be required to agree. The message from the EU has been mixed; while some think it is a sensible idea, others say the process should only be extended if there is a good reason for it.
    Assuming that the EU agrees, the process could be pushed from the UKís current Brexit leave date 29 March, to 18 April Ė the last day that the European Parliament can vote before breaking up ahead of Mayís elections; the European Parliament has yet to even debate the Brexit deal, and has therefore not yet voted on it.
    It is likely, however, that if the UK votes for what is available, EU lawmakers will likely follow suit. The current exit date is enshrined into UK law, and that would need to be changed; BBC says a push to 23 May has emerged as a possible new Brexit day to allow the UK two months to fully prepare itself for leaving, and this would also mean the UK departs ahead of the 23-26 May European Parliament elections.
    IF no agreement between the UK and EU on the backstop is seen, a longer delay to exit become possible. A push to the end of June Ė 23rd is capturing imagines since it would coincide with the Brexit referendum anniversary Ė would be an admission that more time is needed, though new MEPs take their place in Parliament in early July, suggesting that nothing could be voted on until then at the very earliest, a scenario that not be ideal for either UK or EU.
    If the process cannot be wrapped up by July, then scenarios of 2021 come into focus (EU officials are said to have mulled a delay until then, BBC reported), though this may not be palatable for Brexiteers, and thus, may split the government and lead to another strategy before then.


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...vote-what-look
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    https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/st...62253393166337

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    Theresa May may have days, if not hours, left as prime minister of the UK following a full-blown cabinet coup on Saturday night as senior ministers moved to oust the UK prime minister and replace her with her deputy, David Lidington.
    According to the Sunday Times, following a "frantic series of private telephone calls", senior ministers agreed the prime minister must announce she is standing down, warning that she has become a toxic and “erratic” figure whose judgment has "gone haywire."
    The plotters reportedly plan to confront May at a cabinet meeting on Sunday and demand that she announces she is quitting. If she refuses, they will threaten mass resignations or publicly demand her head. The "conspirators" were locked in talks late on Saturday to try reach a consensus deal on a new prime minister so there does not have to be a protracted leadership contest.
    Tory MPs now texting round saying Theresa May should go this week and a Gove / Lidington / Hunt triumvirate should sort out this mess
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 23, 2019
    The Sunday Times, which reported that up to 11 cabinet minister confirmed they wanted the prime minister to make way for someone else, said that at six senior ministers want her deputy, David Lidington, to deliver Brexit and then make way for a full leadership contest in the autumn. Lidington’s supporters include cabinet remainers Greg Clark, Amber Rudd and David Gauke. The chancellor, Philip Hammond, also believes Lidington should take over if May refuses this week to seek a new consensus deal on Brexit. Sajid Javid, has agreed to put his own leadership ambitions on hold until the autumn to clear the way for Lidington — as long as his main rivals do the same.
    The relatively unfamiliar - especially outside the UK - Lidington "is understood not to be pressing for the top job but is prepared to take over if that is the will of cabinet. He would agree not to stand in the contest to find a permanent leader."
    A cabinet source said: “David’s job would be to secure an extension with the EU, find a consensus for a new Brexit policy and then arrange an orderly transition to a new leader.”
    Lidington’s friends want him to pledge to allow the cabinet to decide Brexit policy in order to get Hunt and Gove on board, urging the three cabinet heavyweights to work together to take control of the government.
    Michael Gove, a leading Brexiteer in the 2016 referendum, and Foreign Minister Jeremy Hunt also have some support.
    So: there are signs tonight the cabinet have turned against May

    But huge scrap over whether Gove or Lidington might take over. Big problems with both at this stage. So you couldn’t say there is “a successor”

    So it remains the case it’s impossible to tell what will now happen
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 23, 2019
    Hunt, the foreign secretary, does not support Lidington because he believes he would do a deal with Labour to take Britain into a permanent customs union with the EU, although he has lost confidence in May’s ability to take advice or deliver the deal.
    Meanwhile environment secretary Gove has a leadership team in place and a raft of supporters who have been recruited in a series of secret dinners hosted by Mel Stride, the Treasury minister. Gove is said to be ready to support Lidington if others do but is sceptical that agreement will be reached.
    * * *


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...nent-overthrow
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    Here's a good write up of what's happening. There could be a coup attempt soon:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...of-theresa-may

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    It appears a cross-party group of lawmakers who have been conspiring for weeks to wrest power away from Theresa May's government has emerged victories after a contentious Monday evening vote.
    During the vote on the "Letwin Amendment" , hordes of Tory backbenchers joined with opposition MPs, and even some government ministers (one of whom, Minister for Business and Industry Richard Harrington, resigned from the cabinet to support the amendment) to defy the government whips and vote to assume control over the Commons agenda. The amendment, which had been put forth by Tory MP Sir Oliver Letwin, passed by a slim margin of 329 vs. 302. Finally, MPs also voted in favor of the government motion
    Here's the text.
    LETWIN Amendment A: Seeks to change the rules of parliament on March 27 in order to provide time for lawmakers to debate and hold indicative votes. It has been signed by more than 120 lawmakers. The result of any such indicative votes would not be binding on the government but if it showed a majority for an alternative Brexit path. A similar amendment voted on earlier this month lost by two votes, this is therefore expected to have a good chance of passing.
    The amendment calls for time to be set aside on Wednesday for a series of 'indicative votes' on alternatives to the withdrawal agreement that May negotiated with the EU. The options will range from a 'soft' Brexit that could cross certain of May's 'red lines' (like remaining in the customs union and/or single market), to a second referendum, to "no Brexit at all".
    Harrington wrote a scathing resignation letter, blaming May for "playing roulette with lives and livelihoods of the vast majority of people in this country."
    This evening I wrote to the PM to offer her my resignation pic.twitter.com/Z0QU5lbeJ1
    — Richard Harrington (@Richard4Watford) March 25, 2019
    UK Minister Steve Brine, Undersecretary of State for Primary Care and Public Health, has also resigned, as has Minister of State for the Foreign Office Alistair Burt. Meanwhile, MPs narrowly defeated 'Amendment F' - the Beckett Amendment - which calls for Parliament to hold a vote on whether to leave with 'no deal' if the UK comes within 7 days of the deadline without a deal. Finally, the Commons passed a motion that confirms indicative votes will now happen - by a margin of 327 to 300.
    On Beckett amendment, which represents maximum evisceration by MPs of no deal Brexit without actually removing it as default (only EU can do that, or government if it revokes Article 50), rebels lose narrowly by 311 to 314
    On Beckett amendment, which represents maximum evisceration by MPs of no deal Brexit without actually removing it as default (only EU can do that, or government if it revokes Article 50), rebels lose narrowly by 311 to 314
    — Robert Peston (@Peston) March 25, 2019
    Frankly there is no conspicuous logic to MPs backing Letwin and not Beckett. But that is the Brexit Commons for you
    — Robert Peston (@Peston) March 25, 2019
    Ultimately, some 30 conservatives broke ranks to support the Letwin Amendment.
    It's worth noting that TWICE as many Tory MPs backed the Letwin amendment tonight compared to the Benn amendment last week

    The 15 new rebels are:

    Brine
    Burt
    Collins
    Costa
    Green
    Harrington
    Jo Johnson
    Lefroy
    Masterton
    Mitchell
    Morgan
    Neill
    Newton
    Pawsey
    Spelman
    — Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) March 25, 2019


    In its response to the vote, the government issued a statement saying the power grab "upends the balance of power" and sets "a dangerous unpredictable precedent."
    BREAKING government response to vote tonight

    “This amendment instead upends the balance between our democratic institutions and sets a dangerous, unpredictable precedent for the future.” pic.twitter.com/DT5jVeoSQ4
    — Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) March 25, 2019
    Opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn responded that the Commons must decide if "any deal should be put to people in confirmatory referendum."

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...-brexit-debate
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    Nearly three hours after the voting began, the results of the indicative vote are finally in, and it looks like MPs rejected every single alternative to May's Brexit deal that was included on the ballot. That's right, not a single option received enough votes to pass by a simple majority. So much for the hopes expressed by Oliver Letwin, the mastermind behind the vote, who had said it would at least help narrow the options down...but that didn't stop him from proposing that Parliament should vote again on Monday to "reconsider these matters."
    Brilliant to hear a whole range of new Brexit options that MPs don’t want. Truly illuminating.
    — Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) March 27, 2019
    ...Twitter wits couldn't help but crack a few well deserved jokes.
    For what it's worth, a proposal to keep the UK in the customs union and a plan for a second "confirmatory" referendum on May's deal came the closest.
    Here's the full breakdown.
    No single option won on round one of indicative votes

    No-deal - 160 to 400

    Common Market 2.0 - 188 to 233

    Eustice Common Market - 65 to 377

    Customs Union - Ayes 264 to 272

    Corbyn - 207 to 367

    Revoke A50 - 184 to 293

    2nd ref - 268 to 295

    Fysh - 139 to 422
    — Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) March 27, 2019
    Here's a more complete breakdown:
    Results - No deal

    Supported by 3 Labour MPs pic.twitter.com/03bxl7drCk
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 27, 2019
    Results - Common Market 2.0

    Note DUP *abstained* pic.twitter.com/eVBqpY3KmI
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 27, 2019
    Results - EEA but no customs union

    Labour oppose because it means endorsing May’s deal pic.twitter.com/IwRnHBIk8j
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 27, 2019
    Results - Customs Union

    The closest of all the votes - DUP also abstained pic.twitter.com/dGnd2f8R1V
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 27, 2019
    Results - Labour plan

    Ken Clarke voted for Labour plan! pic.twitter.com/G0DazZKBSK
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 27, 2019
    The fact that MPs have no idea what they want has never been more clear. We wonder if this will make May's "back me then sack me" offer any more attractive to intransigent Brexiteers, and, possibly the opposition?
    * * *


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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    BREXIT means Britain must exit European Union ?? Prime minister "May" wants to England to leave European Union ??



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    Theresa May is set to push ahead with a critical vote on part of her Brexit deal after overcoming the speaker’s ban on repeatedly putting the same plan to MPs.
    Commons leader Andrea Leadsom confirmed on Thursday that the government will exclude the political declaration, which deals with Britain’s future relations with the EU, in Friday’s vote - focusing solely on the withdrawal agreement.
    The withdrawal agreement and the political declaration together form Theresa May's Brexit deal.
    The EU has said the prime minister needs to secure approval by 11pm UK time on Friday for the withdrawal agreement - not the political declaration - if the UK is to be given an automatic delay of its departure date from the bloc until 22 May.
    Otherwise, Britain has until 12 April to announce a new plan or leave the bloc without a deal.
    The announcement came as Downing Street made a last push to win over Tory rebels and the DUP to her Brexit deal after offering to quit before the next stage of talks.
    There is still substantial opposition to the agreement, even after the prime minister sacrificed her job for her deal, promising to quit if MPs approved the agreement and let Britain leave the EU on schedule in May.
    Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May spoke for 20 minutes on Thursday evening and the Labour leader said his MPs would not back the Government move.
    "Jeremy made clear Labour will not agree a blindfold Brexit to force through Theresa May's damaging deal, which would leave the next Tory party leader free to rip up essential rights and protections and undermine jobs and living standards," a Labour spokesperson said.
    It is understood that the call took place at the prime minister's request.
    DUP deputy leader Nigel Dodds also said on Thursday evening that his party would not vote for the withdrawal agreement on Friday, due to concerns over the backstop.


    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/brexit-news-l...080339825.html
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    Despite a last-minute round of defections from some Labour MPs and Tory Brexiteers, what reporters jokingly referred to as "meaningful vote 2.5" - the third vote on May's withdrawal agreement - has been defeated 344-286, a margin of about 60 votes.
    In a speech after the result, May raised the possibility of new elections. The pound tumbled on the results. "We are reaching the end of this process in this House," May said. One way out would be holding another election.
    Indicating that she isn't planning to resign, the prime minister said she would "continue to press the case for an orderly Brexit.
    Unsurprisingly, the pound plunged as the defeat has raised the likelihood that the UK will leave the EU without a deal on April 12.


    While May said only that an election might be one option to break the impasse, opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn went further and called for a vote, and also called on May to fulfill her promise and quit, now.
    In a statement, Deputy ERG Chairman Steve Baker insisted that this must be the final defeat for May's withdrawal deal, and that the Commons must now move on and find another way - or, presumably, accept a 'no deal' exit.
    "This must be the final defeat for Theresa May’s deal. It is finished. And we must move on.”

    "It's finished and we must move on. It has not passed and it will not pass," he added.


    While Friday's defeat is yet another major setback for the prime minister, who will now presumably push for a much longer Article 50 extension that could last for months or even years, the margin was better than the last two votes, indicating that May has made progress - just not enough to finally deliver Brexit.

    What will happen next? Well - and stop us if you've heard this before - that's difficult to say. Liam Fox, a senior cabinet minister, said a defeat for the deal could lead to a lengthy Brexit day delay. Perhaps months, perhaps even years. The prospect for a general election has risen. Others will point out that, though no alternative received a majority favorable vote, holding another "confirmatory" referendum on Brexit was among the more popular options during this week's indicative vote.
    The EU negotiators released a statement saying they were "disappointed" by the outcome of the vote. The bloc has insisted that it will not yield on the withdrawal agreement, and bureaucrats have said they will not accept a lengthy delay of Brexit because that would create complications for the upcoming European Parliamentary elections.
    Ahead of an emergency summit set for April 10, the EU is reportedly looking to hear in advance what the UK's plan will be. Two options appear to be one the table: Leave with no-deal or get a long extension at least until the end of the year. But at their summit last week, European leaders suggested they were becoming more comfortable with the prospect of no-deal.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...eated-58-votes
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    This issue would have been solved long ago if they had planned for multiple referendum votes instead of just one.

    As my father used to say, measure once, vote twice
    Last edited by TheTexan; 03-29-2019 at 09:06 PM.
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    So far, 1 referendum vote, 3 "Meaningful Votes" (is there any other type?), countless "Indicative Votes", god knows how many opinion polls, with a MV4 vote, a 2nd referendum vote, and/or a general election vote on the horizon.

    I'm having a votegasm just thinking about it.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 03-29-2019 at 09:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    So far, 1 referendum vote, 3 "Meaningful Votes" (is there any other type?), countless "Indicative Votes", god knows how many opinion polls, with a 2nd referendum vote and/or a general election vote on the horizon.

    I'm having a votegasm just thinking about it.
    Just think how much voting we could have if we split up the US.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    - SUPPORT FREE TRADE, SMUGGLE -

    2 + 2 = 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Just think how much voting we could have if we split up the US.
    Even more voting if we stretch out the process for years and years until eventually nothing comes of it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Even more voting if we stretch out the process for years and years until eventually nothing comes of it!
    think of all the jobs created for people to count hanging chad.
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    Tory MPs are warning Theresa May that they will resist any attempt to hold a snap general election to try to break the Brexit crisis engulfing the party.
    Mrs May’s aides are said to be at loggerheads this weekend over whether to accept a soft Brexit or call a general election.
    Her team want to put her Brexit deal back to the Commons for a fourth vote early this week and if it fails again, some of her most senior aides are pushing for her to call a snap poll.
    Brexiteer cabinet ministers are reportedly poised to resign if Mrs May accepted a soft Brexit involving a customs union or a long delay to the EU exit which involves taking part in the European elections.
    One-hundred-and-seventy MPs and ministers have signed a letter urging the PM to secure a swift departure from the EU and pursue a no-deal exit rather than accept a soft Brexit. But at least six cabinet ministers in the Remain camp are prepared to quit if she allows the UK to crash out of the EU without a deal, according to the Sunday Times.


    After MPs rejected Mrs May’s deal again on Friday by 58 votes, the PM said there would be "grave" implications and, in a hint at a general election, warned they were "reaching the limits of this process in this House".
    Her comments set alarm bells ringing among MPs who fear the party is in no state to fight an election.
    Mrs May would effectively be a lame duck leader - having said she will stand down once she has got Brexit through - and voters would be voting "blind" not knowing who her successor would be.
    Foreign Office minister Sir Alan Duncan told The Observer: "If we have a general election before Brexit is resolved, it will only make things worse."
    Under the terms of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act, the Prime Minister needs a two-thirds majority in order to call an election.
    However, after her disastrous decision to go to the polls early in 2017, Tory MPs made clear they would not be prepared to support her in doing so again.
    Pro-EU backbencher Antoinette Sandbach, who backs a second referendum, told The Observer: "The answer is not a general election, and I would vote against that. We need to find a way forward in Parliament."
    Her comments were echoed by Mark Francois, the deputy chairman of the pro-Brexit European Research Group, who told the paper there was "not a chance" MPs would back an election under her leadership.
    "Of course they wouldn't - not after last time. And remember, she needs a super majority to do it," he said.
    Nigel Evans, executive secretary of the backbench Conservative 1922 Committee, said the Cabinet would block it.
    "I don't believe the Cabinet would allow her to do it," he told the paper.
    "Theresa May cannot call an election, she cannot be the leader who would lead us into it. The party would not tolerate it."
    The warnings came as MPs prepared to take control again of the Commons timetable with a second series of "indicative" votes starting on Monday in attempt to find a alternative plan which can command a majority in the House.


    With frustrations growing on all sides at the continuing deadlock, it emerged that 170 Tory MPs had written to the Prime Minister demanding a swift departure - with or without a deal.
    The letter was said to have been signed by 10 members of the Cabinet - including Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt and Home Secretary Sajid Javid - and 20 other ministers.
    Conservative Party chairman Brandon Lewis confirmed the existence of the letter, saying: "I haven't signed the letter. I do know about it."

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/brexit-news-l...073100207.html
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  21. #18
    Despite some rumors that the Nick Boles proposed Common Market 2.0 might garner a majority of votes with some Tory remainers and the SNP supporting it and Labour deciding to whip for it, once again, all four of the options tabled in Monday's indicative vote - the second in less than a week - have been rejected.
    Indicative vote results
    Customs Union 273-276
    Common Market 2.0 261-282
    2nd Ref 280-292
    Revocation 191-292
    — Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) April 1, 2019
    MPs are now voting on four propositions for #IndicativeVotes2 on light blue coloured �� between 8pm-8.30pm:

    (C) Customs Union - Clarke
    (D) Common Market 2.0 - Boles
    (E) Confirmatory Public Vote - Kyle/Wilson
    (G) Parliamentary Supremacy - Cherry pic.twitter.com/550xBpSAMk
    — Labour Whips (@labourwhips) April 1, 2019
    The question now is: Will the Commons give up on indicative votes after this? Or continue trudging ahead as the April 12 deadline looms. Cable tumbled on the headline as hopes for a consensus around a 'softer' Brexit have been dashed, once again reversing the prior session's gains as the currency continues to violently see-saw with every new development in the interminable Brexit saga.

    Ironically, as one Tory MP pointed out, the PM's deal got more votes last week than any of the proposed alternatives on Monday. As one twitter wit pointed out, the vote still failed to produce a majority for any one proposal despite cutting the number of proposals in half (there were four on Monday compared with eight during Wednesday's vote), and including both the customs union proposal and the "common market 2.0".
    So even stacking the deck - still no majority for anything.
    — Michael Hewson ���� (@mhewson_CMC) April 1, 2019
    In the first sign that the results of this vote will lead to even more instability and infighting in the Commons, at a time when more than 200 Tory MPs have reportedly signed a letter supporting a "managed" no-deal Brexit (despite the EU already having poured cold water on that option), Tory MP Nick Boles, who tabled the "Common Market 2.0" proposal, has resigned the Tory whip and will refuse to sits on the Commons as a Conservative, per the FT.
    Nick Boles, a Tory MP who brought forward one of the options tonight, says he has given everything to try and find a way forward, but he accepts he has failed. That is chiefly because his party refuses to compromise so he can no longer sit with this party. He is crossing the floor to sit with the Opposition. MPs gasp as he rises to walk across the floor of the Commons.
    The DUP has confirmed that all 10 of its MPs voted against each of the proposals. Nigel Dodds, the DUP leader in Westminster, said the only proposal that could feasible garner a majority of support is the Brady Amendment - which was essentially a proposal to replace the Irish Backstop with a nebulous, unicorn-like promise to work something out. The EU has said time and time again that it won't accept any changes to the backstop, yet the DUP persists.
    Ken Clarke, a. pro-European Tory who proposed the Customs Union plan, said his plan didn't get a majority because some people’s vote supporters would not back it because they only wanted to back a second referendum. Others wouldn't back it because they really wanted Common Market 2.0, even though they probably would have been happy with his plan, too. He added, with a touch of dry wit, that sometimes he thinks the Commons isn't very good at politics.
    In any event, while Theresa May had again threatened to call another general election earlier, threats that the Commons apparently hasn't taken very seriously, it's likely that she will soon be forced to write to the EU to request another extension.
    * * *


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ndicative-vote
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  22. #19
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  23. #20
    https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/st...26066888077312

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/st...26066888077312

    I'm shocked!!!
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  25. #22
    Tories have continued to vent their intense anger at Theresa May over her decision to meet with Jeremy Corbyn for talks over the Brexit deadlock.
    Two ministers quit in protest today with a host of Tory MPs also speaking out. One, Caroline Johnson, highlighted what she called “the risk of letting down the country and ushering in a Marxist, anti-Semite-led government”.
    Mrs May said on Tuesday that she would seek an extension beyond next week to allow negotiations with the Labour leader aimed at getting a Brexit deal through Parliament.
    Mr Corbyn said he would be “very happy” to meet the Prime Minister in a bid to offer “certainty and security” to the British people – but Tory Brexiteers have reacted with anger.
    Mr Corbyn said his demands in Brexit talks would be a customs union with the EU and access to markets, as well as protecting consumer and environmental standards and workers’ rights and guaranteeing the Good Friday Agreement.
    However, he stopped short of demanding a second referendum, despite huge pressure from MPs in his own party.
    Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay admitted today that another Brexit vote is an option on the table in the talks between two leaders.
    Mrs May met Mr Corbyn on Wednesday afternoon before holding talks with Nicola Sturgeon, who warned that she wasn’t “entirely clear” where the PM was prepared to compromise.


    Eurosceptic Tories said that the PM “has f***** us” for seeking a softer Brexit with the Labour leader.
    Two members of the Brexit-backing European Research Group (ERG) told Sky News: “This is serious stuff. She has f***** our party. She is f***ing Brexit. She is f***ing the country.”
    They added: “She is getting this through off the back of opposition votes. What is the point of being the government?
    “This is all about her rotten legacy and she doesn’t care what she screws in the process, including the public interest and party she goes on so much about.”
    Following yesterday’s cabinet, this morning I’ve been to Downing Street & resigned my position as UK Govt Minister for Wales & Govt Whip. I’m grateful to the PM for the opportunity to serve as a Minister since 2017 & will continue to serve my constituents from the backbenches. pic.twitter.com/W15xS4cOBP
    — Nigel Adams MP (@nadams) April 3, 2019
    Nigel Adams, the minister for Wales and the Government Whip this morning resigned in what he fears will be a “failure” to deliver Brexit.
    He said that a deal “cooked up with a Marxist” was now seen as better than no deal.
    Junior Brexit minister Chris Heaton-Harris also resigned over Theresa May’s handling of Brexit, setting out his support for a no-deal Brexit.

    https://news.yahoo.com/shes-f-us-liv...084846965.html
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  26. #23
    Labour has poured cold water on finalising a quick Brexit deal with Theresa May within days, insisting any changes would have to be “legally-binding”.
    Downing Street has hinted it wants an agreement with Jeremy Corbyn nailed down by the end of the week, in order to meet the EU’s deadline for agreeing a further extension to Article 50 at a summit next week.
    But Rebecca Long-Bailey, Labour’s shadow business secretary, said the party would require any changes enshrined in law – to prevent the prime minister’s successor tearing them up.
    Asked if she could imagine walking through the voting lobby with Ms May, Ms Long-Bailey replied: “Certainly, if we receive a deal, or a willingness to work towards a deal, on the basis that we have set out.”
    But she warned that simply putting changes in the political declaration – the framework for a future EU deal – would be unacceptable, because it was only a “gentlemen’s agreement”.
    “That’s what we need to see – legal protections enshrined in law,” the key ally of Mr Corbyn told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.
    “But we also want to see them enshrined at an EU level, so that any subsequent government couldn't roll back on them wantonly.
    “In relation to the political declaration, that’s never going to be a legally binding document – it’s a gentlemen’s agreement.”
    The comments appeared to suggest Labour would demand a reopening of the withdrawal agreement itself – something the EU has repeatedly ruled out.
    Ms Long-Bailey also refused to say that any Brexit deal agreed with the government would have to be put to the people in a Final Say referendum, despite both Keir Starmer and Tom Watson insisting it must.
    She said Labour was entering the talks, which will start later today, with “an open mind”, adding: "We're not setting any red lines for these discussions with the prime minister”.
    On a second referendum, Ms Long-Bailey risked angering many Labour MPs by arguing the party’s support for it in the latest “indicative votes” was “just to move matters ahead”.
    “The People's Vote didn't satisfy all elements of our conference policy, but we wanted to have that on the table so members could have the opportunity to look at that if they wanted to,” she said.
    The demand for any cross-party agreement to be “legally-binding” reflects Labour fears that the prime minister’s move is a trap to “dip Jeremy Corbyn’s hands in the blood” of the Brexit deal.
    If he agrees any compromise that does not include a second referendum, he will face fury from Remain supporters for helping to facilitate Britain’s EU departure.
    But, if the Labour leader refuses to cut a deal and the process fails, the Tories will accuse him of blocking Brexit and forcing a long Article 50 extension – possibly at an autumn election.


    https://news.yahoo.com/brexit-labour...081358207.html
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  27. #24
    target Jeremy Corbyn


    https://twitter.com/AliBunkallSKY/st...52300037398528

    'Totally unacceptable': MoD criticises troops after Corbyn picture used in target practice
    https://news.sky.com/story/totally-u...ctice-11682894


    --------------
    The bigger problem imho is that what is mentioned in Hayward's coment.
    The pro-globalist propaganda tools, as Integrity Initiative, depict everyone, who dares to criticize, or even question, globalist rhetoric, as collaborator, enemy's useful idiot, 5th column etc.
    For troops, who themselves being heavily brainwashed, it's easy to behave like this.
    Integrity Initiative said Corbyn is Russian tool and enemy. Then they see him like an enemy.
    That's the very dangerous consequence of globalist propaganda war and continuous attack against everyone, who does not follow the msm storyline...

    Integrity Initiative is the biggest story of 2018 – but not because of anything it did
    The Integrity Initiative and the UK’s Scandalous Information War
    https://www.rt.com/news/447256-integ...ishment-media/

    The carefully concealed offices of a covert, British government-backed propaganda mill at the center of an international scandal the mainstream media refuses to touch.
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-in...on-war/253014/


    --------------
    This comes on the heels of Theresa May's announcement yesterday where she said she would meet with Corbyn for Brexit talks in an attempt to gain his support for passing her Brexit deal.
    Immediately many politicians within her own party expressed outraged, "how dare she conduct government business with an anti-semite, Marxist!".

    The closer it goes towards the General Election (which is very likely soon imo) expect anti-Corbynism hysteria to be whipped up further.
    Last month in fact Corbyn was not just hit with an egg, but actually some guy punched him in the head with an egg.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-jeremy-corbyn


    https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/stat...54225084776449


    https://twitter.com/Gazinsalford/sta...35598083526657



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  29. #25
    It's not clear that the EU would accept an(other) extension at this point, since it's not clear that it would do anything but delay the inevitable.

    IMO, the odds are still on a no deal exit on April 12.
    "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."

    -H. L. Mencken

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    target Jeremy Corbyn


    https://twitter.com/AliBunkallSKY/st...52300037398528

    'Totally unacceptable': MoD criticises troops after Corbyn picture used in target practice
    https://news.sky.com/story/totally-u...ctice-11682894


    --------------
    The bigger problem imho is that what is mentioned in Hayward's coment.
    The pro-globalist propaganda tools, as Integrity Initiative, depict everyone, who dares to criticize, or even question, globalist rhetoric, as collaborator, enemy's useful idiot, 5th column etc.
    For troops, who themselves being heavily brainwashed, it's easy to behave like this.
    Integrity Initiative said Corbyn is Russian tool and enemy. Then they see him like an enemy.
    That's the very dangerous consequence of globalist propaganda war and continuous attack against everyone, who does not follow the msm storyline...

    Integrity Initiative is the biggest story of 2018 – but not because of anything it did
    The Integrity Initiative and the UK’s Scandalous Information War
    https://www.rt.com/news/447256-integ...ishment-media/

    The carefully concealed offices of a covert, British government-backed propaganda mill at the center of an international scandal the mainstream media refuses to touch.
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-in...on-war/253014/


    --------------
    This comes on the heels of Theresa May's announcement yesterday where she said she would meet with Corbyn for Brexit talks in an attempt to gain his support for passing her Brexit deal.
    Immediately many politicians within her own party expressed outraged, "how dare she conduct government business with an anti-semite, Marxist!".

    The closer it goes towards the General Election (which is very likely soon imo) expect anti-Corbynism hysteria to be whipped up further.
    Last month in fact Corbyn was not just hit with an egg, but actually some guy punched him in the head with an egg.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-jeremy-corbyn


    https://twitter.com/MarkUrban01/stat...54225084776449


    https://twitter.com/Gazinsalford/sta...35598083526657
    Corbyn is a crazy socialist and a remainer, the Russia and Israel propaganda is garbage but that doesn't make him a good choice for PM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  31. #27
    Guy Verhofstadt calls for EU army capable of launching strikes on Syria
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...strikes-syria/

    (Partisangirl@Partisangir
    ISIS is defeated, so this guy is talking about rescuing al-qaeda from the Syrian army.)


    Guy Verhofstadt welcomed the Prime Minister's move to meet with Jeremy Corbyn and said it was "good" she was reaching out across party lines to find a compromise to break the Brexit deadlock.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...proach-labour/


    ---------

    THE VETO: Film exposing CNN, Al Jazeera, Channel 4 and the western media propaganda war against Syria
    https://21stcenturywire.com/2019/03/...against-syria/




    --------


    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/1113907354075115523

    ------

    Guy Elster‏@guyelster ∑ 5 min.
    BREAKING Britain's May asks EU for Brexit extension to June 30
    https://www.rt.com/news/455615-uk-asks-brexit-delay/

    @SkyNewsBreak

    Sky Sources: European Council President Donald Tusk is to propose EU leaders agree to offer the UK a year-long "flexible" extension to Article 50 beyond 12 April to 31 March 2020 with the option of leaving the EU earlier if the UK parliament ratifies the EU Withdrawal Agreement


    Considering that the EU withdrawal agreement gives such awful terms for the UK and was already was voted down three times in the UK parliament, then if this 'flexible extension' is agreed it seems likely the UK won't be leaving EU for another year at the minimum.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 04-05-2019 at 07:14 AM.

  32. #28
    While No. 10 has insisted that this week's talks with the opposition have been "constructive," the flurry of leaks ostensibly originating from inside the Labour camp have advanced a very different narrative. And now, in the party's first official statement since first sitting down with Theresa May, Labour Shadow Brexit Secretary Keir Starmer has confirmed what many have long suspected: May's refusal to compromise has left the talks on the brink of collapse.

    Despite the prime minister's comments about the necessity of working with the opposition to hammer out a Brexit compromise, to hear Labour tell it, May hasn't been willing to cede any ground in the talks.Even stipulations like modifying the political declaration to keep the UK in the customs union - one of Labour's non-negotiable demands - have been rejected by May out of hand. In fact, the prime minister has refused to "come forward" with anything new.
    Here's more from the Independent.
    Labour’s decision to publicly criticise the government was prompted by a government refusal to reopen the ‘political declaration’, for a future trade deal, that accompanies the divorce deal.
    Instead, the Opposition was being asked to merely agree a memorandum that would sit to sit alongside the binding withdrawal agreement.
    Some Tory sources had suggested Ms May was willing to discuss a customs union – a key Labour demand – or even a Final Say referendum on any deal that emerges.
    But, speaking after the talks, Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, said: "The government isn't proposing any changes to the deal. In particular, it's not countenancing any changes to the actual wording of the political declaration."
    "Now, obviously, that's disappointing; compromise requires change. We want the talks to continue and we've written in those terms to the Government, but we do need change if we're going to compromise."
    According to ITV's Robert Peston, the government has also accused Labour of being inflexible. According to Peston, May has proposed a "wrap-around statement" that would deliver some of Labour's central demands, including beefing up protections for workers rights while also giving Parliament a greater say in the next stage of negotiations (when the future trade relationship between the EU and UK will actually be hammered out).
    What the PM has proposed is a so-called wrap-around statement, that would toughen up proposed protections of workers’ rights, and would give a greater role for parliament as and when the future relationship is being negotiated, including a prior “entrenchment” process to embody whatever kind of future relationship MPs favour within the forthcoming Withdrawal and Implementation Bill.
    According to Bloomberg's Brexit live blog, the pound is fading as May's strategy in the talks is "increasingly hard to fathom."


    Consider this: What if May's decision to meet with the opposition was merely a smokescreen? Given her tenuous relationship with the Brexiteer faction of her own party, directly asking for a lengthy Brexit delay would put her in an uncomfortable position. But if the EU insists, then she might be able to accept without losing face. Though some EU leaders have reportedly questioned the wisdom of agreeing to a long-term extension, Peston and others have reported that it's likely - though not guaranteed - that the long-term "flextension" will happen (so called because it would include a provision where the UK could speed up its exit if the withdrawal agreement is passed).
    That would set her up to give her withdrawal agreement one last run through the Commons. With the possibility of a lengthy Brexit delay hanging over their heads, she just might be able to win over the 25 Brexiteers and DUP members who voted against her during MV3 when she finally brings the deal back for what would be its fourth go.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...verge-collapse
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  33. #29
    Media SILENCE as massive Brexit Court Battle RAGES!


    The full legal document reads as follows:
    1. It is submitted that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has left the European Union as of the 29th March 2019 after the expiry of its two year Notice to Leave dated 29th March 2017.
    2. Much of the relevant law has been explored and ruled upon by this Honourable Court and by the Court of Appeal and by the Supreme Court in the case of R (on the application of Miller and another) – v – Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union [2017] UKSC5. Consequently Parliament enacted the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017.
    3. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland joined the European Union pursuant to Treaty in 1972 and subsequently the European Union Act 1972 was enacted to give domestic legal force to the Treaty obligations to the European Union.
    4. The current overarching constitution of the European Union was reformed under the Lisbon Treaty which was brought into direct legal force in the United Kingdom pursuant to the European Union (Amendment) Act 2008.
    5. Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty reads as follows:-
    “Article 50 – Treaty on European Union (TEU)
    1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
    2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
    3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
    4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
    A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
    5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asked to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.”
    6. On the 23rd June 2016 the voters of the United Kingdom, by a majority, and the voters of England by a larger majority, voted, in the largest democratic mandate in the United Kingdom’s history, to leave the European Union.
    7. In accordance with the United Kingdom’s “Constitutional Requirements” Parliament enacted the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017. The Preamble to that Act states that it is:- “An Act to confer power on the Prime Minister to notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom’s intention to withdraw from the EU”
    The Act provides:-
    “1. Power to notify withdrawal from the EU
    (1) The Prime Minister may notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom’s intention to withdraw from the EU.”
    8. Pursuant to the statutory power granted by the European Withdrawal Act 2017 the Prime Minister duly served the Notice on 29th March 2017. That Notice expired on the 29th March 2019.
    9. Accordingly it is submitted that as of the scintilla temporis after the expiry of the said notice on the 29th March 2019, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has left the European Union.
    10. In the European Union Withdrawal Act 2018 Parliament further enacted a transitional scheme whereby it proposed to transpose all EU law into a direct effect in the UK jurisdictions of Northern Ireland, Scotland and England and Wales. Much of that Act has not been brought into force. The Act mis-describes its implementation date as “exit day”. This is something of a misnomer since under the true construction of this Act it has no role, either purported or implicit, in determining the date of departure of the UK leaving the European Union. Within the meaning of the Act, “exit date” is merely the implementation date for the Act’s transactional arrangements.
    11. The Applicant is aware that there has been purported ministerial Regulation under the 2018 Act which may have been approved by resolution in both Houses. However even if it has, it is submitted that such a Regulation cannot of itself be in any way definitive of the UK’s actual departure from the European Union. The relevant wording of the Act makes this clear:-
    “European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018
    An act to repeal the European Communities Act 1972 and make other provision in connection with the withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the EU.
    [26th June 2018]
    1 Repeal of the European Communities Act 1972
    The European Communities Act 1972 is repealed on exit day.
    2 Saving for EU-derived domestic legislation
    (1) EU-derived domestic legislation, as it has effect in domestic law immediately before exit day, continues to have effect in domestic law on and after exit day.
    20 Interpretation
    (1) In this Act—
    “exit day” means 29 March 2019 at 11.00 p.m. (and see subsections (2) to (5));
    (2) In this Act references to before, after or on exit day, or to beginning with exit day, are to be read as references to before, after or at 11.00 p.m. on 29 March 2019 or (as the case may be) to beginning with 11.00 p.m. on that day.
    (3) Subsection (4) applies if the day or time on or at which the Treaties are to cease to apply to the United Kingdom in accordance with Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union is different from that specified in the definition of “exit day” in subsection (1).
    (4) A Minister of the Crown may by regulations—
    (a) amend the definition of “exit day” in subsection (1) to ensure that the day and time specified in the definition are the day and time that the Treaties are to cease to apply to the United Kingdom, and
    (b) amend subsection (2) in consequence of any such amendment.”
    12. Despite the express wording of the European Union (Notification f Withdrawal) Act 2017, expressly only empowering the Prime Minister to give Notice to withdraw the United Kingdom from the EU, the Prime Minister has purported to request an extension of the Article 50 date for departure and subsequently purported to agree an extension to the date of departure.
    13. It is submitted, in accordance with long and high authority of legal precedents and also recently and comprehensively in R (on the application of Miller and another) – v – Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union [2017] UKSC5 that, statute fully displaces any residual prerogative powers.
    14. In the premises the only power that the Prime Minister had, as regards Article 50, was the service of the Notice withdrawing the United Kingdom from the EU and giving two years notice. That power was functus officio on the 29th March 2017. Accordingly, her purported request for an extension of the date of departure and the Government’s purported agreement to such an extension is and was unlawful and is and was null and void.
    15. In the premises the Applicant seeks a Declaration from this Honourable Court that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland left the European Union upon the expiry of the Article 50 Notice on the 29th March 2019.




    More at: https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/media...-battle-rages/
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  34. #30
    Hard exit now!

    <insert curling team screaming "hard!, Hard!, Hard!">

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...F5&FORM=VDRVRV


    HARD!

    HARD!

    HARD!

    HARD!
    - SUPPORT FREE TRADE, SMUGGLE -

    2 + 2 = 5.

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