Just to get that out of the way early this time 'round.
Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
With the Demoncrats holding the House he will be lucky to get this.
If he ever gets a Congress with enough conservatives to overcome the left and the RINOs we may see actual cuts.
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Deficit in 2029 - $202B. Pipe dreams.
You mean like when Team Red held both the house and senate, as well as the presidency from 2016-2018? Yeah, I am still stoked at all the spending cuts and liberty spreading during those golden years.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
Team Red is rarely very conservative.
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Team Red is there to provide an illusion of choice.
What's that definition of insanity I've heard from time to time? Something about doing the same thing and expecting a different result?
What you are showing is the effect of the mandatory programs, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.
Must be a hard life not to understand how to read tables. Please refer to Table S-4 to see the proposed cuts to discretionary non-defense spending. It goes from $639B in 2018 to $511B in 2029.
The Table S-4 also shows reductions in the mandatory programs beginning in 2021 from the reform proposals to reduce costs. While these reforms can slow the growth of the spending, I agree these are not cuts to the mandatory programs.
I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.
Personally I am all for cuts . Which cuts were you expecting , eliminating the USDA and medicaid ?Just to get that out of the way early this time 'round.
Do something Danke
Not like that at all, the majorities were not even close to large enough to overcome the RINOs.
You did read what I said about the RINOs, right?
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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I know the answer, more tax cuts
That is part of the answer.I know the answer, more tax cuts
Trump's tax cuts HAVE increased revenues, they just didn't increase it as much as the mandatory budget items increased in addition to his DoD budget increases minus his cuts to the rest of the budget.
Further cuts would probably still increase revenues.
Larger cuts are of course the biggest part of the answer.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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It would help.I know the answer, more tax cuts
It is a good thing they pushed through all those budget cuts when Republicans controlled all three parts of the budget process (House, Senate, and President). How much was it they reduced the deficit by again? What- the deficit is higher now? What a bunch of commie socialists!
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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Your usual- commies and RINOs. There are no Republicans. Republicans quit caring about deficits when "read my lips" lost re-election.
Truth is truth.
Not all of them.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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"Truth isn't Truth" - Rudy Ghouliani
Your idol.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
No. The increases in defense spending alone are greater than the non-defense cuts and result in a net increase within discretionary spending, completely ignoring all non-discretionary spending or, as listed in the budget, mandatory programs.
Look down just one row from that row. Which number on the highlighted row is smaller than the 2018 number?
Must be tough not being able to read tables.
Last edited by TheCount; 03-12-2019 at 07:41 PM.
The kind of cuts that result in a smaller number.
We all know what's going to happen. A compromise will be reached such that Trump's requested increases in defense spending are paired with increases in non-defense spending such that even more money is spent.
I get excited just thinking about cuts . I want to turn on the news and gleefully see the wailing and gnashing of teeth . You guys let me know when it is time .
Do something Danke
They shouldn't care about deficits.
Total spending, whether deficit or not, is what they should care about.
no cuts... no surprises
Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows
how do you feel about the country issuing debt free united states notes instead of federal reserve notes???
we get our money without anymore debt.
$#@!ing nothing.
No dissolving of any agencies.
No budget cuts.
No repealing of any anti-2A laws.
Zero.
And its not just Trump, W Bush had the same opportunity. Grew the $#@! out of government, spending like crazy, $#@! all over the Constitution...
WTF?
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.
"To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."
Slightly better.Team Red is there to provide an illusion of choice.
But their rhetoric sounds good.
"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.
"To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."
What would be a "debt free note"?
Gee, could we, oh, I don't know, use something of actual value to barter with without getting thrown in jail? Or do we have to use banker-packaged bundles of debt--junk bonds, essentially--to avoid prison?
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