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Thread: Intelligence Contractors Make Second Attempt In One Week To Provoke Tensions With North Korea

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    I assume that means you can't or won't answer the question?
    ''we don't negotiate with terrorists and coddled cucks''



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    ''we don't negotiate with terrorists and coddled cucks''
    So I ask why your false dichotomy looks quite a lot like the false dichotomy socialists like to use, and you call it a personal insult. But you call that debate.

    Then you accuse the mods of maintaining a double standard?

    That's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So I ask why your false dichotomy looks quite a lot like the false dichotomy socialists like to use, and you call it a personal insult. But you call that debate.

    Then you accuse the mods of maintaining a double standard?

    That's funny.
    :facepalm:

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    Just a few days after NBC News and National Public Radio (NPR) launched propaganda attempts to undermine the peace process between the United States and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), the United Nations has waded into the fray with a new attempt to build a case for retaining sanctions that have proven to be a sticking point between the negotiation teams.
    Much like previous reports, the United Nation's Panel of Experts (PoE) on North Korea utilized misleadingly interpreted satellite footage provided by private firms who have contractual connections to the CIA and Pentagon. The panel's findings will ultimately be used to support policies that are aimed at playing on North Korean fears and make them more likely to withdraw or engage in counterproductive behavior.
    I. Continued Misleading Interpretation Of Satellite Footage
    The PoE's claimed that the DPRK has been using an "underwater pipeline" at an oil terminal in Nampo, North Korea to offload fuel it receives by sanctioned methods. Much like with previous attempts to "prove" North Korean behavior with satellite imagery that did not actually show evidence of claimed activity the UN's contentions are similarly based on shaky grounds.

    A second photo run by NKNews.org from private defense contractor Planet Labs purports to also show the "underwater pipeline." NK News claimed that the underwater pipeline had been used since 2018 solely based on the fact that ships moved in and out of the area, which is obviously designated for mooring.


    There are a number of problems with both the photos provided by the Panel of Experts and the Planet Labs image published by NK News. These issues are outlined below.

    • None of the images shows where the "underwater pipeline" comes ashore. It is not visible under the water's surface, even where the shoreline is shallow.
    • None of the cables connecting to the ship are pipelines. They are cabling used to moor the ship in place.
    • All of the buoys are in place to mark either mooring cables or the ship's anchor which would have been dropped alongside it once it came to a stop. The UN PoE labeled the anchor buoy as an "offloading buoy" misleadingly in one of their images.
    • An "underwater pipeline" creates a huge risk for salt water contamination of gasoline being pumped through it. This is why all such transfers are done above the surface of the water.

    Additional markings on the UN PoE's images discuss the storage capacity and location of the oil terminal in Nampo but provide no evidence of an "underwater pipeline." Even more damning, the image provided to NK News by Planet Labs shows a very clear shadow running down its center. This indicates that either two photographs were laid on top of each other and copied, or the original image was creased to hide some detail that would have otherwise been visible.
    The use of an underwater pipeline is not the standard method by which ships refuel. Previous reports discussing sanctions evasion display photographs showing how ships will commonly lash together before exchanging gasoline above the water line. When ships to take on fuel from land, they will pull up along a dock. These kinds of details might be obvious to anyone with a degree of maritime knowledge but not a layman.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...korea-dialogue
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