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  1. #31
    Voting "no" is rarely a bad thing in Congress. And Amash doesn't need the Trump base to keep getting re-elected. He got like 20K more votes than Trump did in MI-3 during 2016.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    Voting "no" is rarely a bad thing in Congress.
    It is this time.

    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    And Amash doesn't need the Trump base to keep getting re-elected. He got like 20K more votes than Trump did in MI-3 during 2016.
    We will see but it isn't just Trump's base that resents the invaders being catered to and given political power to ensure Demoncrat/communist victories.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...

    We will see but it isn't just Trump's base that resents the invaders being catered to and given political power to ensure Demoncrat/communist victories.
    ''You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.''

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It is this time.


    We will see but it isn't just Trump's base that resents the invaders being catered to and given political power to ensure Demoncrat/communist victories.
    He voted against meaningless, toothless posturing.

    The only people who care think style is as important as substance.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    He voted against meaningless, toothless posturing.

    The only people who care think style is as important as substance.
    No, he voted against condemning treason.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, he voted against condemning treason.
    So you're saying meaningless, toothless posturing can't condemn treason?
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
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    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So you're saying meaningless, toothless posturing can't condemn treason?
    It isn't meaningless.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It isn't meaningless.
    Opinions are like hemorrhoids.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  11. #39
    Michigan Republicans should probably spend their resources getting Trump the electoral votes instead of prentending to primary Amash.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    Michigan Republicans should probably spend their resources getting Trump the electoral votes instead of prentending to primary Amash.
    I agree with you there, Amash is small potatoes and his overall voting record is still better than almost anyone else but they should remember this and keep an eye on him in case he turns into another Jeff Flake.
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  14. #41
    Ron Paul probably would've voted against this crap.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Oh? Did it make any difference?

    Leave it to a partisan to get his panties in a knot over a symbolic vote that doesn't do one damned thing.
    Bingo.
    Trump hates liberty.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No, he voted against condemning treason.
    No he didn't.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No he didn't.
    Yes, he did.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  17. #44
    For your entertainment:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/mipr...2029856870276/

    Some grassroots people want to "recall" Amash

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    For your entertainment:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/mipr...2029856870276/

    Some grassroots people want to "recall" Amash
    The top comment starts:
    If you live in justin amash district ..you should start recalling now .. He is pushing back and voting against our president....
    I love how these mindless lemmings call him "our president."

  19. #46
    @Swordsmyth @Stratovarious @jkr @Sammy @Brian4Liberty this thread should be a Thumbs UP on a liberty forum.


    I fully support Justin on this.

    Lately when I speak to people they believe the Fed should control all voting. That is not the way that our system was intended to work. Local Precincts should have control, and if you are concerned about voter fraud, work the precinct yourself.

    As through history, once the people are slowly conditioned, power is moved up the ladder to state then Fed, biometrics and other central control mechanisms will be called for taking power away from the individual/local level.

    Here is Justin’s response:

    “I voted against a motion to amend a bill to criticize San Francisco for letting non-citizens vote in school board elections. I voted no because I’m a constitutionalist who opposes such federal interference in LOCAL elections. Non-citizens have voted locally since our founding.”
    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/republ...ng-in-america/


    People, please wake up out of your stupor. Justin has among the highest Constitutional Freedom Index Scores of anybody.
    Last edited by PAF; 03-14-2019 at 08:29 AM.
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I fully support Justin on this.

    Lately when I speak to people they believe the Fed should control all voting. That is not the way that our system was intended to work. Local Precincts should have control, and if you are concerned about voter fraud, work the precinct yourself.

    As through history, once the people are slowly conditioned, power is moved up the ladder to state then Fed, biometrics and other central control mechanisms will be called for taking power away from the individual/local level.

    Here is Justin’s response:



    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/republ...ng-in-america/


    People, please wake up out of your stupor. Justin has among the highest Constitutional Freedom Index Scores of anybody.
    What a perfect and succinct response.

    The Trumpist Jacobins here hate truth bombs like this.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No he didn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    The top comment starts:

    If you live in justin amash district ..you should start recalling now .. He is pushing back and voting against our president....
    I love how these mindless lemmings call him "our president."
    Look at that use of language a little closer. That person is not white. They are merely playing a white person on the internet.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Look at that use of language a little closer. That person is not white. They are merely playing a white person on the internet.
    I noticed that. But her English seems par for the alt-right, if the ones who frequent this website are at all representative.

  24. #50
    So, it managed to be both meaningless posturing and a violation of the Tenth Amendment at the same time.. Neat trick.

    And he voted against it. How is a member of Congress obeying the Tenth Amendment treason again? The traitors are the ones who voted for this garbage.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    I noticed that. But her English seems par for the alt-right, if the ones who frequent this website are at all representative.
    On par, yes. But those people abuse the language differently. They're more likely to put an apostrophe in front of every s they see than leave an 's off completely.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @Swordsmyth @Stratovarious @jkr @Sammy @Brian4Liberty this thread should be a Thumbs UP on a liberty forum.


    I fully support Justin on this.

    Lately when I speak to people they believe the Fed should control all voting. That is not the way that our system was intended to work. Local Precincts should have control, and if you are concerned about voter fraud, work the precinct yourself.

    As through history, once the people are slowly conditioned, power is moved up the ladder to state then Fed, biometrics and other central control mechanisms will be called for taking power away from the individual/local level.

    Here is Justin’s response:



    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/republ...ng-in-america/


    People, please wake up out of your stupor. Justin has among the highest Constitutional Freedom Index Scores of anybody.
    Criticism is not Federal control of local voting, it is specifically avoiding it, if they wanted to interfere they would have proposed a law to mandate citizenship as a requirement for voting in local elections.

    Amash is wrong, allowing illegals to vote in any election is wrong and should be condemned.

    I'm well aware of the relative excellence of his voting record but he votes the wrong way at the weirdest times and this is one of them.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So, it managed to be both meaningless posturing and a violation of the Tenth Amendment at the same time.. Neat trick.

    And he voted against it. How is a member of Congress obeying the Tenth Amendment treason again? The traitors are the ones who voted for this garbage.
    Condemning something is not a violation of the 10thA.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    The top comment starts:


    I love how these mindless lemmings call him "our president."
    Yeah, it kind of reminds me of this.

    1 Samuel 8: 19-20

    "But the people refused to listen to Samuel. ďNo!Ē they said. ďWe want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.Ē

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Condemning something is not a violation of the 10thA.
    The federal government harassing a local jurisdiction is indeed a violation of the Tenth.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The federal government harassing a local jurisdiction is indeed a violation of the Tenth.
    Condemning something wrong is not harassment.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  32. #57
    I see a lot of people arguing, and I'm confused again.

    Should the United States allow illegal immigrants to vote?

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I see a lot of people arguing, and I'm confused again.

    Should the United States allow illegal immigrants to vote?
    In federal elections? No.

    That's not what this was about.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    In federal elections? No.

    That's not what this was about.
    Thanks, now I understand.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I see a lot of people arguing, and I'm confused again.

    Should the United States allow illegal immigrants to vote?
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    In federal elections? No.

    ....
    Federal Elections?

    Just 'federal' elections ?
    Last edited by Stratovarious; 03-14-2019 at 04:09 PM.

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