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    Illegal Border Crossings on Pace to Hit Almost 1 Million This Year

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/illega...r_2829039.html

    WASHINGTON—Large groups of migrants from Central America, traveling by bus through Mexico, have become the new norm in illegal border crossings into the United States.

    In one instance, border agents encountered 334 illegal immigrants who had been dropped off by eight commercial buses right at the U.S.–Mexico border, Kevin McAleenan, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) commissioner, said in a Senate hearing on March 6.

    More than 70 large groups (of 100 or more migrants) have been apprehended by Border Patrol so far this fiscal year—equaling more than 12,000 apprehensions. That compares to a total of 13 large groups in all of fiscal 2018.

    In February alone, Border Patrol apprehended more than 66,000 people crossing the border illegally. A further 10,000 were detained after presenting at ports of entry without legal paperwork to enter the United States.

    “At the current pace, we are on track to encounter close to one million illegal aliens at our southern border this year,” Department of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen told the House Homeland Security Committee on March 6.

    El Paso Uptick

    A recent 24-hour surge in El Paso, Texas, highlighted the issue. Border Patrol agents were inundated with several large groups of illegal aliens starting late on March 5.

    Two large groups—consisting primarily of Central American families and unaccompanied minors—crossed the border fence near downtown El Paso. The first group contained 112 people and the second 252, according to CBP. Several smaller groups also crossed in different locations along the El Paso metro area. In one of the groups, border agents discovered an unaccompanied 2-year-old child.

    In total, more than 700 illegal aliens were apprehended in the 24-hour period.

    “While dealing with this influx of illegal aliens, Border Patrol agents also arrested two convicted sex offenders attempting to enter illegally, while the agents were preoccupied with the large groups,” CBP said in a statement. “Both sex offenders were arrested in different groups.”

    Both subjects had previously served jail time in the United States before being deported, according to CBP.

    Another six people were arrested further east, including one who was a U.S. citizen with a lengthy criminal record and an outstanding federal warrant for escape.

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    So... basically, the US has become Mexico's Welfare System? Anyone they DONT WANT they encourage to come here? Thats an act of WAR.
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    I can only imagine what the number will be next year. 2 million? 3 million?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I can only imagine what the number will be next year. 2 million? 3 million?
    If Trump follows through on his recent commitments to increase legal immigration, then the number of illegal immigrants will go down commensurately.

    Here's to hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    If Trump follows through on his recent commitments to increase legal immigration, then the number of illegal immigrants will go down commensurately.

    Here's to hoping.

    ^^ This is where I can not get on board.

    PAF:

    They also can't see that he is once again establishing precedent among the party of "R", a term that was unheard of before: "illegal". Of course this will align with "fair labor", reduction/elimination of Contract Rights, and set immigrants up to not only be eligible for government programs, but also supply tax money to the FED.

    Groooooowwwwwww gubermint!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    ^^ This is where I can not get on board.
    You are right that, as Trump intends it (to the extent that there are thoughts behind his words), there are surely strings attached, which could lessen the benefits of simply letting people in without requiring documents and tracking of who works where and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    If Trump follows through on his recent commitments to increase legal immigration, then the number of illegal immigrants will go down commensurately.

    Here's to hoping.
    That won't solve the problem at all.

    I would love to get rid of the welfare state, but since that is not even fathomable to our current political system, but a wall is, the wall will let in the good people who will be apart of the legal immigration system, and not allow the cartels and gangs to cross back and forth at their leisure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    That won't solve the problem at all.
    The problem of the high number of illegal border crossings?

    Sure it would solve that.

    The reason people cross the border illegally is because they can't do it legally. If we start making it easier for them to come legally than illegally, then that's what they'll do. The only people left crossing illegally will be the cartel traffic you mentioned. Not only does that make up a tiny fraction of the one million illegal border crossings, but once we remove from that all the other non-cartel immigration, then it would make stopping the cartel traffic that much easier.
    Last edited by Superfluous Man; 03-08-2019 at 12:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    The problem of the high number of illegal border crossings?

    Sure it would solve that.

    The reason people cross the border illegally is because they can't do it legally. If we start making it easier for them to come legally than illegally, then that's what they'll do.
    The problem is not that people are crossing the border illegaly, the problem is the result of people crossing the border illegaly. The result will be the same under your plan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I can only imagine what the number will be next year. 2 million? 3 million?
    Just wait until Mexico goes full socialist and ends up like Venezuela.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The problem is not that people are crossing the border illegaly
    OK, then you're in the wrong thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    OK, then you're in the wrong thread.
    No, you are just really bad at obfuscation.

    Nobody gives a $#@! if somebody crosses an imaginary line.. if there were ten million illegal border crossings, but they all went back after they crossed the border nobody would complain. The problem is what is happening after that. The solution lies in what happened before that, thus the focus on illegal border crossings.
    Last edited by dannno; 03-08-2019 at 02:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No, you are just really bad at obfuscation.

    Nobody gives a $#@! if somebody crosses an imaginary line.. if there were ten million illegal border crossings, but they all went back after they crossed the border nobody would complain. The problem is what is happening after that. The solution lies in what happened before that, thus the focus on illegal border crossings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    Just wait until Mexico goes full socialist and ends up like Venezuela.
    AMLO is taking them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
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    So... basically, the US has become Mexico's Welfare System? Anyone they DONT WANT they encourage to come here? Thats an act of WAR.
    Yes, it is.
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