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    Ilhan Omar Thanks Fox News For Publicly Condemning Pirro
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...an-omars-hijab



    https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1105143098995367936

    warmongers keep fumbling and shooting themselves. hilarious.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Cicero is great , but 'what' is your application with it ?
    The quote:

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” Cicero
    Obviously this pertains most to the suspected 9/11 traitors in Project for a New American Century who were at the helm of America's defenses on 9/11. They had been expressing a desire to overthrow Saddam even BEFORE 9/11, and even all but wished for a "new Pearl Harbor."

    Think it's "conspiracy?" What was George W. Bush's Under Secretary of Defense, Douglas Feith, doing writing a paper for Netanyahu recommending the invasion of Iraq, back in 1996? With what army? Certainly not Israel's. They knew 9/11 was coming. Probably had a hand in planning it. Those are the kind of traitors Ciero was talking about.

    "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm":

    "Israel can shape its strategic environment...by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq..."
    Read The Evidence for Israeli Involvement in 9/11
    His name was Seth Rich.

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    I'm also trying to wrap my head around what is happening. If someone wants to lay out what and why this is happening in the manner that it is, I am all ears.

    It could simply be a case of members of the asylum being let loose and now trying to run the asylum with Cortez, Tlaib, and Omar. They want inclusivity and outside voices to stand united in diversity against evil Trump, but now that they did that, those same members are tearing apart everything in literal weeks. So now we are seeing scandals and resolutions being raised in rapid response.

    The problem is, when you look at what is happening abroad right now in Israel, the "just accept it for what it is" is starting to wear thin.
    Lots of things are happening, on many levels, and more quickly.

    The "Blitzkreig" is not accidental, it's designed that way...to pile up the bull$#@! so fast you'd need wings to stay above it.

    Key points: the Fifth Gen Warfare generals sense victory, which explains the all out, Battle of the Bulge thrusts on the borders.

    The Cultural Marxists sense victory, which explains the all out, over the top propaganda campaign from the government news and entertainment organs. (Take a close look at how "woke af" it all is now)

    And the collectivists of all stripes sense victory, as the first generation to have no knowledge of the Soviet Union or the genocides it spawned in the 20th century come of age and embrace the failed ideas of the past, again.

    Those who can not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them, and drag along the few who have, with them.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post


    Ilhan Omar Thanks Fox News For Publicly Condemning Pirro
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...an-omars-hijab



    https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1105143098995367936

    warmongers keep fumbling and shooting themselves. hilarious.
    But it's perfectly OK for sitting senators to question people's faith?



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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    The quote:



    Obviously this pertains most to the suspected 9/11 traitors in Project for a New American Century who were at the helm of America's defenses on 9/11. They had been expressing a desire to overthrow Saddam even BEFORE 9/11, and even all but wished for a "new Pearl Harbor."

    Think it's "conspiracy?" What was George W. Bush's Under Secretary of Defense, Douglas Feith, doing writing a paper for Netanyahu recommending the invasion of Iraq, back in 1996? With what army? Certainly not Israel's. They knew 9/11 was coming. Probably had a hand in planning it. Those are the kind of traitors Ciero was talking about.

    "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm":



    Read The Evidence for Israeli Involvement in 9/11
    Thanks for the clarification, I had no idea who you were referring to.

    I have no doubt and haven't since about 2002 , that 911 was avoidable,
    we were lied to, and there was a definite cover up.
    Larry Silverstein's 'story' alone is enough to question 911.

    Bill Cooper made several timely predictions, which he didn't really look at as
    such, he knew 'generally' what events were to come to pass, and they did.
    Last edited by Stratovarious; 03-11-2019 at 05:27 PM.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Lots of things are happening, on many levels, and more quickly.

    The "Blitzkreig" is not accidental, it's designed that way...to pile up the bull$#@! so fast you'd need wings to stay above it.

    Key points: the Fifth Gen Warfare generals sense victory, which explains the all out, Battle of the Bulge thrusts on the borders.

    The Cultural Marxists sense victory, which explains the all out, over the top propaganda campaign from the government news and entertainment organs. (Take a close look at how "woke af" it all is now)

    And the collectivists of all stripes sense victory, as the first generation to have no knowledge of the Soviet Union or the genocides it spawned in the 20th century come of age and embrace the failed ideas of the past, again.

    Those who can not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them, and drag along the few who have, with them.
    They sense victory but they also sense defeat, we are approaching a crisis point and the outcome could go either way.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They sense victory but they also sense defeat, we are approaching a crisis point and the outcome could go either way.
    There are Cultural Marxists which are merely useful idiots. If we win they win. And if they think they win, they lose and we lose.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Small, sparsely populated countries inhabited by hard working, self deprecating, sane white folks.

    That's why the redistributionist polices of Scandinavia "work".



    Hitler was a NAZI.

    NAZIs were socialists.

    The National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP).

    He was also a "green".

    Central planning authoritarians of all stripes love Malthusian environmentalism.

    Since, deep down, they abhor most fellow humanity.

    For that matter, so do I, but I am honest enough to admit that:

    A - I have no right to exterminate people to satisfy my grand plans, as each person has God given rights that I am not to usurp, and I respect and defend that.

    B - I'd be fine with that portion of fellow humanity that I abhor, if they would just be so kind as to leave me the $#@! alone and mind their own business.

    For instance, how much gas my car burns is my business, not yours.
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  11. #69
    At least this makes some people rethink our foreign policy.
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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    At least this makes some people rethink our foreign policy.
    Think so?

    I think this is a matter of, lots if people had become skeptical, and they decided to let a polarizing public figure adopt the position. That will, they hope, keep all the partisans on "the other side of the aisle" on the reservation.

    I think we scared them. Many liberals have been doubting Israel for a long time. When we showed up saying nothing good about the country at the GOP convention, they decided to do something about it.

    The result? Nothing makes Republicans live something so much as a program lightning rod publicly hating on it.

    Fact is, this "special relationship" isn't good for any American outside the MIC, K Street or Congress.

    It may make the wrong people (conservatives with no love for Israel) do the rethinking.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Think so?

    I think this is a matter of, lots if people had become skeptical, and they decided to let a polarizing public figure adopt the position. That will, they hope, keep all the partisans on "the other side of the aisle" on the reservation.

    I think we scared them. Many liberals have been doubting Israel for a long time. When we showed up saying nothing good about the country at the GOP convention, they decided to do something about it.

    The result? Nothing makes Republicans live something so much as a program lightning rod publicly hating on it.

    Fact is, this "special relationship" isn't good for any American outside the MIC, K Street or Congress.

    It may make the wrong people (conservatives with no love for Israel) do the rethinking.
    Great, I'm happy with either, or both sides rethinking this. Bonus.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Great, I'm happy with either, or both sides rethinking this. Bonus.
    Just as long as conservatives who were skeptical don't decide, if she's against Israel I'm for Israel.

    But I think that's just what they're after. And they might make that work.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Just as long as conservatives who were skeptical don't decide, if she's against Israel I'm for Israel.

    But I think that's just what they're after. And they might make that work.
    I'd like to see our foreign policy footprint reduced. But like all things, easier said than done.
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  17. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    The so what is that socialism is the main problem we face.

    Yes, the Israel lobby is bad. And part of why it's bad is because it advances causes that are either socialism or variations of the same root problem as socialism.

    But the enemy of our enemy is not necessarily our friend. Saying something we can agree with about the Israel lobby doesn't cover over AOC's socialism, which is as bad or worse.
    Seems to me that the 'herding the sheep" technique being used almost exclusively these days is to use a (created and intentionally placed) polarizing figure to say or advocate something so that the herd automatically, unthinkingly, runs to oppose it, whatever it is. In this case, AOC makes comments about Israel so of course the Republicans that may have been starting to question things like $38B payments to build Israel's walls, while the wall promised to Republicans isn't materializing, automatically run back to support Israel unconditionally. They quickly forget about the $38B and walls and are right back firmly on the plantation. This sort of duality tactic is being used on everything and everyone and not even subtly any more.

    Last edited by devil21; 03-13-2019 at 11:02 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Seems to me that the 'herding the sheep" technique being used almost exclusively these days is to use a (created and intentionally placed) polarizing figure to say or advocate something so that the herd automatically, unthinkingly, runs to oppose it, whatever it is. In this case, AOC makes comments about Israel so of course the Republicans that may have been starting to question things like $38B payments to build Israel's walls, while the wall promised to Republicans isn't materializing, automatically run back to support Israel unconditionally. They quickly forget about the $38B and walls and are right back firmly on the plantation. This sort of duality tactic is being used on everything and everyone and not even subtly any more.

    I didn't see any Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, ever question Israel's handouts.
    His name was Seth Rich.

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    I didn't see any Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, ever question Israel's handouts.
    You saw Ron Paul do it.

    Dr. No just said no.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You saw Ron Paul do it.

    Dr. No just said no.
    True that.

    But's he's extraordinary though and that was different pre-America First era.

    Ron Paul: Israeli blockade of Gaza horrible & act of war, US morally responsible

    I think a video of Trump was posted here where he was saying "Ron Paul can't be elected" or something like that. If RP were in Congress now and said same, MAGA foot soldier Kevin McCarthy would probably launch campaign against him. Current MAGA supporter Ben Stein had previously accused RP of 'hate speech'.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    I didn't see any Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, ever question Israel's handouts.
    I have but that was just an example of justification.

    IOW, if AOC says something Republicans are supposed to automatically go the exact opposite direction, no matter how true what she said is. It is the end result of such extreme polarization that's been intentionally inserted into governance/politics these days. Just like how if Trump says something Dems automatically run the opposite direction. It's quite easy to control each side using this tactic.
    Last edited by devil21; 03-13-2019 at 09:59 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    The entire internet is the domain of paid shills and bots. If you don't know this by now....

    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    Visiting the Outer Banks of NC?
    Outer Banks NC Fishing Boat Rentals

  22. #79
    Rep. Ilhan Omar
    @Ilhan
    The people of Syria revolted against Assad's repressive dictatorship 8 years ago today, demanding a more just and free government.
    Peace loving people around the world stand in solidarity with them in this struggle!



  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Even a broken clock can be right.
    Came to say this.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.



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  25. #81
    She is just another political mascot designed to attract populist voters to a dying political party. Their transparent attempt to control political discussions everywhere with their red herring sheep dog mascot is dividing people and that's how they win.

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  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Again, why is it the socialist, along with Omar, the only ones to stand up to the Israeli lobby crap?

    You have to ask?



    The John Hagee wing of evangelicals have the GOP by the balls. That Hagee can call himself a Christian, deny Jesus being the Messiah, and still have a viable TV ministry is what is really scary.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Only at RPF can the erupting Democratic party civil war incite one of our own.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    I don't see people in Norway and Sweden dropping like flies.
    Is Sweden really socialist?

    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Is Sweden really socialist?

    ''You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jmdrake again.''

  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Rep. Ilhan Omar
    @Ilhan
    The people of Syria revolted against Assad's repressive dictatorship 8 years ago today, demanding a more just and free government.
    Peace loving people around the world stand in solidarity with them in this struggle!



    https://twitter.com/ArabianaINTEL/st...12323393355781

    Jihadists.

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