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    U.S. won't partner with countries that use Huawei systems: Pompeo

    U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday warned that the United States would not be able to partner with or share information with countries that adopt Huawei Technologies Co Ltd systems, citing security concerns.In an interview on Fox Business Network, Pompeo said nations in Europe and elsewhere need to understand the risks of implementing Huawei's telecommunications equipment and that when they did, they would ultimately not use the company's systems.
    "If a country adopts this and puts it in some of their critical information systems, we won't be able to share information with them, we won't be able to work alongside them," Pompeo said.
    "We're not going to put American information at risk," he added.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/u-wont-partne...9--sector.html

    That sounds good to me, I hope they all use it now.
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    @TheTexan

    I will sure sleep well tonight knowing that Great Americans like this have a genuine interest in the privacy and liberty of his fellow citizens. I feel so safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    @TheTexan

    I will sure sleep well tonight knowing that Great Americans like this have a genuine interest in the privacy and liberty of his fellow citizens. I feel so safe!
    I just feel bad for the Chinese people. They have to live under an authoritarian regime that would use Huawei devices to spy on the world's telecommunication systems.

    It's a good thing the US government is standing up against such an evil practice.

    Plus the Huawei devices probably aren't compatible with the PRISM devices already installed.
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    There was always a downside to outsourcing tech and military production to Asia...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Sending military manufacturing and secrets to Asia will eventually turn out to be a fatal mistake. But at least the crony MIC saved a little money by outsourcing. Where's Obama's jobs Czar Immelt from GE these days? Did he finally just move to China, or maybe Monaco?
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    ... Obama and his buddy Immelt thought it would be a good idea to export production to China, along with all of the technology to do it. No worries, the Chinese would never use that technology and production capability to build up their own military. And they would never, ever, secretly imbed flaws, backdoors, kill switches, etc.

    Now why did China stop purchasing all kinds of US tech? Oh yeah, it's because the US government requires backdoors in everything. But China would never do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Thursday warned that the United States would not be able to partner with or share information with countries that adopt Huawei Technologies Co Ltd systems, citing security concerns.In an interview on Fox Business Network, Pompeo said nations in Europe and elsewhere need to understand the risks of implementing Huawei's telecommunications equipment and that when they did, they would ultimately not use the company's systems.
    "If a country adopts this and puts it in some of their critical information systems, we won't be able to share information with them, we won't be able to work alongside them," Pompeo said.
    "We're not going to put American information at risk," he added.

    More at: https://news.yahoo.com/u-wont-partne...9--sector.html

    That sounds good to me, I hope they all use it now.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I just feel bad for the Chinese people. They have to live under an authoritarian regime that would use Huawei devices to spy on the world's telecommunication systems.

    It's a good thing the US government is standing up against such an evil practice.

    Plus the Huawei devices probably aren't compatible with the PRISM devices already installed.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-23-2019 at 02:26 PM.

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    Washington is going to re-evaluate its policy of sharing intelligence with European allies that have decided to use Chinese Huawei equipment in their 5G networks, US Deputy Assistant Secretary for Cyber, International Communications, and Information Policy Robert Strayer said on 29 April. He claimed that using equipment from an “untrustworthy vendor” in any form compromises the entire network.
    “If other countries insert and allow untrusted vendors to build out and become the vendors for their 5G networks we will have to reassess the ability for us to share information and be connected with them in the ways that we are today”, he said.
    Earlier, reports surfaced that the UK had decided to allow Huawei equipment to be used in non-core elements of its 5G network; however, Strayer stated that Washington won’t differentiate between core and no-core aspects when making its decision to limit intelligence sharing.

    The UK is not the only US ally in Europe to allow the Chinese giant’s 5G equipment to be used. Jochen Homann, director of Germany’s Federal Network Agency — Bundesnetzagentur, said that his agency would not bar Huawei from the country, as it had been given no indications that the Chinese company was spying on its clients. European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker also defended the tech giant by saying that the bloc won’t ban Huawei just because it “is Chinese.”

    More at: https://www.infowars.com/us-to-reass...uawei-5g-tech/
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    bbc
    Huawei: US official warns 'no safe level' of involvement with tech giant
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48098362







    ====


    A Chinese court sentenced a Canadian national to death on Tuesday for producing and trafficking methamphetamine, amid heightened tension between Beijing and Ottawa over the arrest of a Huawei Technologies executive.
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1S606P
    Last edited by goldenequity; 04-30-2019 at 05:59 AM.

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    Many Obamaphone providers use Huawei. Does that put the U.S. government at odds with itself?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 04-30-2019 at 12:48 PM.
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    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
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    I don't really care if I happen to be wrong about your positions, you are wrong about mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Backdoor found in Cisco networking equipment
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ci...are,37480.html

    Truly pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Backdoor found in Cisco networking equipment
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ci...are,37480.html

    Vodafone Finds Hidden Backdoors In Huawei Network Equipment

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    UK:


    Gavin Williamson has been sacked as defence secretary following an inquiry into the leak of information from the National Security Council.

    The inquiry followed reports over a plan to allow Huawei limited access to help build the UK's new 5G network.

    Mr Williamson, who has been defence secretary since 2017, continues to deny leaking the information.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48126974

    buh bye

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    https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/sta...97154396168192

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Contrary to Huawei's insistence that it has never been caught spying for the government during its 30-year history, and that it would be willing to sign "No Spy" pacts to assuage national security concerns, reports about the discovery of 'back doors' in Huawei equipment have been a persistent - and unsettling - factor.

    Just last night, President Trump signed an executive order, and the Commerce Department said it would add Huawei to a list of firms that US companies aren't allowed to do business with. Being added to this blacklist could result in a Huawei bankruptcy; a similar designation applied to ZTE, another Chinese telecoms firm, last year nearly destroyed the company. And on Thursday, the newspaper De Volkskrant revealed that a hidden "backdoor" had been discovered on the network of an unspecified Dutch telecoms company.
    The report, which was picked up by Reuters, said Dutch intelligence agency AIVD is looking into whether the Chinese government had used the vulnerability to spy on Dutch citizens.


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...awei-equipment
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    https://twitter.com/FelizMcChanj/sta...38760066363392



    Huawei P30 Pro's 50X SuperZoom




    https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/1130458348174893058
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-20-2019 at 08:17 PM.

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    some background...

    Huawei Technologies and 70 of its affiliates have been placed on a trade blacklist, the US Department of Commerce has confirmed, after President Donald Trump declared an emergency targeting telecoms owned by “adversaries.”
    https://www.rt.com/business/459445-u...ade-blacklist/


    U.S. COMMERCE ADDS HUAWEI TECHNOLOGIES CO. LTD. TO THE ENTITY LIST ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES CONTRARY TO U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY

    No more Android updates and google play store for Huawei users
    https://en.muraselon.com/2019/05/and...-huawei-users/


    How long till China goes after Apple?

    Huawei confirms it has built its own operating system in case #US tensions disrupt use of Google’s Android
    https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/a...m-just-case-us


    ►Wondering how big losses will be to US tech. compensation to big techs next after farmers???

    China's Huawei refuses to yield to US demands amid blackmailing
    https://sptnkne.ws/m2Uu


    Huawei plans on developing its own chips to lessen impact of US ban
    https://www.rt.com/business/459719-h...us-ban-effect/


    Angela Merkel and the powerful BDI (Federation of German Industries) association distanced themselves on Thursday from the US government's decision to put Huawei on a blacklist. "Europe needs to maintain its own course," the BDI said.
    http://ow.ly/sPXo50ufTlv



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    Xi’s Trip to Rare-Earths Plant Stokes Talk of Trade Retaliation
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    The Trade war is only starting.
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    Intel and Qualcomm join Google in cutting off ties with Huawei
    https://gimtae.com/intel-and-qualcom...s-with-huawei/

    Huawei: China warns about 'unwavering resolve' to fight US 'bullying'
    https://www.fin24.com/Companies/ICT/...lying-20190520

    There will be conflict': US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...panys-strength

    US’ action against Huawei is not an automatic trump card in Europe
    https://www.mobileeurope.co.uk/press...card-in-europe

    US ban won’t derail Huawei’s European 5G rollout
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/05/ar...an-5g-rollout/

    The US is underestimating Huawei, says founder Ren Zhengfei
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/21/1...ve-order-trump

    Donald Trump has been warned by the west’s most influential economics thinktank that further escalation of the US-China trade war would unleash significant damage for the American economy, as well as the rest of the world
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...my-oecd-tariff

    ►suddenly

    Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei is working closely with Google to resolve restrictions imposed by the United States last week, a senior Huawei executive said on Tuesday.
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SR11N

    Google offers Huawei a brief reprieve by putting its Android suspension on hold
    https://www.businessinsider.in/Googl...w/69427599.cms

    (can U say Rare Earth sanction??? )

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    Boycott phones made in China (Huawei) with other phones made in China (apple, samsung, etc)
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Intel and Qualcomm join Google in cutting off ties with Huawei
    https://gimtae.com/intel-and-qualcom...s-with-huawei/

    Huawei: China warns about 'unwavering resolve' to fight US 'bullying'
    https://www.fin24.com/Companies/ICT/...lying-20190520

    There will be conflict': US has underestimated Huawei, says founder
    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...panys-strength

    US’ action against Huawei is not an automatic trump card in Europe
    https://www.mobileeurope.co.uk/press...card-in-europe

    US ban won’t derail Huawei’s European 5G rollout
    https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/05/ar...an-5g-rollout/

    The US is underestimating Huawei, says founder Ren Zhengfei
    https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/21/1...ve-order-trump

    Donald Trump has been warned by the west’s most influential economics thinktank that further escalation of the US-China trade war would unleash significant damage for the American economy, as well as the rest of the world
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...my-oecd-tariff

    ►suddenly

    Chinese telecoms equipment maker Huawei is working closely with Google to resolve restrictions imposed by the United States last week, a senior Huawei executive said on Tuesday.
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SR11N

    Google offers Huawei a brief reprieve by putting its Android suspension on hold
    https://www.businessinsider.in/Googl...w/69427599.cms

    (can U say Rare Earth sanction??? )
    Rare Earths are not that rare.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Russian Market‏@russian_market
    BT Drops Huawei Phones for Britain's First 5G Network
    ►BT’s EE network to reach 16 cities by the end of the year
    ►U.S. blacklisting of Huawei may reshape global telecom sector

    UKUS.

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    Huawei 'back door' boogieman argument is flawed...
    it's NOT about 'security'. YOU HAVE NONE. Clear? I hope so.

    sum current cyber 'news'...

    https://thecyberwire.com/issues/issu...019_05_14.html

    "BleepingComputer writes that Symantec, McAfee, and Trend Micro were among the security firms allegedly breached by the Fxmsp hackers. Trend Micro said data from a test lab had been accessed by unauthorized parties, but that no source code or customer information were compromised. Symantec denied being affected at all, and McAfee says it's investigating. BleepingComputer identified the companies from unredacted Fxmsp chat logs it received from Advanced Intelligence researchers. There's no word yet about a rumored fourth victim."

    But German RT yesterday says they are:

    https://deutsch.rt.com/meinung/88319...odes-bedrohen/

    "The source codes of three American antivirus manufacturers were cracked. Those who have the money can obtain the codes - including organized crime. Another aspect is more dramatic: almost all critical infrastructures in the West are now vulnerable."

    Anyone heard about it elsewhere?

    "Digital Armageddon: Cracked source codes threaten critical infrastructure
    The source codes of three American antivirus manufacturers were cracked. Those who have the money can obtain the codes - including organized crime. Another aspect is more dramatic: almost all critical infrastructures in the West are now vulnerable."

    Here's the source in English:

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...s-avs-respond/


    First time I hear about this. But surely the affected companies won't happily announce that their products were compromised. Especially as it seems to be related to their products.

    Recently new flaws in Intel processors were discovered. Allegedly they are even more dangerous than previously discovered ones (ie. Spectre)...

    New secret-spilling flaw affects almost every Intel chip since 2011

    https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/14/zo...el-processors/
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-22-2019 at 06:40 PM.



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    martyrdom. (aka just like neocon foreign policy... it will BACKFIRE every time. idjuts.)


    https://twitter.com/RanaBurhanJaved/...81896492654594
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-22-2019 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    martyrdom. (aka just like neocon foreign policy... it will BACKFIRE every time. idjuts.)


    https://twitter.com/RanaBurhanJaved/...81896492654594
    **note to self
    I'm going to keep my eye on this as a growing phenom across EurAsia...
    I have a sneaking hunch it's going to eclipse the BDM movement.

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    Does this mean such partnerships with our closest ally would stop?


    James Woods on Obama: He’s the ‘gift from hell’
    The Washington Times Thursday, September 12, 2013
    The latest came this week, in response to a report from British press that revealed the National Security Agency commonly provides Israel with intelligence data — without first stripping out private and personal information on American citizens. The Guardian in London reported the item, the latest in its coverage of document leaks from Edward Snowden.
    Mr. Woods unleashed his views of the matter — and of Mr. Obama's role in allowing the practice to occur — on Twitter.
    He wrote: "Report: Data on Americans shared with Israel ... Obama: the gift from hell that keeps on giving."

    Secretive Israeli Company Uses WhatsApp Voice Calls To Install Spyware On Phones

    A shadowy Israeli firm is accused of spying on US government officials to undermine Iran deal

    Huawei reportedly acquires Israeli IT networking company Toga

    venturebeatDec 7, 2016 - Chinese technology giant Huawei has reportedly snapped up Toga Networks, an Israel-based company that provides “advanced technology ...

    Huawei Buys Israel's Hexatier For $42M
    nocamels.com/2016/12/chinas-huawei-reportedly-buys-israels-hexatier-for-42m/
    Dec 28, 2016 - Chinese phone manufacturer Huawei reportedly will buy Israeli database security & compliance solutions startup Hexatier for $42 million.

    China Is Spying On Israel to Steal U.S. Secrets
    Benjamin Netanyahu ignored the intelligence operations of Beijing and Moscow for too long. Now, the Israeli government is finally paying attention, but it could be too late.
    March 24, 2019
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/24...dod-iai-elbit/

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    James Woods on Obama: He’s the ‘gift from hell’
    The Washington Times Thursday, September 12, 2013
    The latest came this week, in response to a report from British press that revealed the National Security Agency commonly provides Israel with intelligence data — without first stripping out private and personal information on American citizens. The Guardian in London reported the item, the latest in its coverage of document leaks from Edward Snowden.
    Mr. Woods unleashed his views of the matter — and of Mr. Obama's role in allowing the practice to occur — on Twitter.
    He wrote: "Report: Data on Americans shared with Israel ... Obama: the gift from hell that keeps on giving."

    Secretive Israeli Company Uses WhatsApp Voice Calls To Install Spyware On Phones

    A shadowy Israeli firm is accused of spying on US government officials to undermine Iran deal

    Huawei reportedly acquires Israeli IT networking company Toga

    venturebeatDec 7, 2016 - Chinese technology giant Huawei has reportedly snapped up Toga Networks, an Israel-based company that provides “advanced technology ...

    Huawei Buys Israel's Hexatier For $42M
    nocamels.com/2016/12/chinas-huawei-reportedly-buys-israels-hexatier-for-42m/
    Dec 28, 2016 - Chinese phone manufacturer Huawei reportedly will buy Israeli database security & compliance solutions startup Hexatier for $42 million.

    China Is Spying On Israel to Steal U.S. Secrets
    Benjamin Netanyahu ignored the intelligence operations of Beijing and Moscow for too long. Now, the Israeli government is finally paying attention, but it could be too late.
    March 24, 2019
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/24...dod-iai-elbit/
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Does this mean such partnerships with our closest ally would stop?
    I hope so.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #30
    Japan/Panasonic now lick the hegemon boot.... and Brit ARM (blueprint service for chip design)


    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1131468349622218752
    Last edited by goldenequity; 05-23-2019 at 05:35 AM.

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