While I admire people's loyalty to the first presidential candidate to speak honestly...
REALLY....have you ever been where construction is taking place, I have, it's not a photo op, their is machinery working.Originally Posted by AngryCanadian
Do you really think this is all staged and once the camera's stop all these people say ok let's pack up all this machinery and materials up and go home our propaganda piece is done, maybe you are getting these video's mixed up with CNN reporting.
The progress is very slow, not non-existent.
New Mexico is one of the states suing the President for trying to declare a state of emergency to get money for more wall. According to the US Constitution, Congress is supposed to determine how much gets spent on what.
Last edited by juleswin; 02-21-2019 at 08:20 AM.
She's a big idiot. Always has been always will be. I really just don't pay attention to anything she says. And I'm not a fan of Trump. Why do we give credibility to so many fools?
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On bringing the troops home
On fighting corruption:
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Trump bragged about doing the exact thing you're saying in Art of the Deal.
https://www.businessinsider.com/art-...sidency-2017-4"What the bulldozers and dump trucks did wasn't important, I said, so long as they did a lot of it."
Trump was talking about a stunt he pulled in 1982, when he owned a piece of land along the Atlantic City boardwalk and wanted Holiday Inn to partner with him on the construction of a casino.
Contrary to his representations to Holiday Inn, hardly any construction had taken place on the site, and he was concerned the company would decline to invest once they saw what was basically a plot of empty land.
So in advance of a site visit by Holiday Inn executives, he directed his construction manager to hire dozens of pieces of heavy equipment to move dirt around on the site, digging holes and filling them back up if necessary.
Hold on now... until seemingly recently, Coulter seems to have been ready to volunteer her head for Trump's giggles. Now this?
I swear, there seems to be nothing to which one may lend trust.
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There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.
It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
Our words make us the ghosts that we are.
Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.
Humans.
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There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.
It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
Our words make us the ghosts that we are.
Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
Coulter, paid opposition shill within the ranks, the same way repubs and dems are pitted to get tptb agendas accepted.
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If so then what would be the point of that? Why would someone write two books, countless blog posts and tweets praising Trump to one day do a 180 if she does not really believe he betrayed the plan? Simply page views and gigs, or do you have something else in mind?
There is so much dishonesty all the way around it is very difficult to tell what is real and what is a lie. Some in this thread pulled out some good stuff to debunk some of her complaints in the article but when you post something like this it really makes you wonder how much of that is deception from the administration.
I don't know the background of those videos. But my initial guess would be that it's what Jules said, just ongoing construction of border walls at specific locations where they had already been authorized and budgeted before Trump was even elected.
Immigration is microscopic compared to the main problem. Spending and debt.
+1 Madison320
For us anti-wall folks who believe ending incentives is the only solution to freedom/liberty and fiscal responsibility, she has a following who supports that wall and using her claws to stir things up within the party.
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Why not both? I see this allot here that if you are for the wall you are against ending incentives. I do not think there is anyone here that wants to keep incentives. The only split is between those who want border security with the wall and those who don't.
If you have an entry point being flooded by thousands of people the wall sounds like the cheapest solution to prevent the invasion. We just do not have enough man power to physically stop the numbers that are crossing. The more that cross the more spending to care for and process them.
The Wall prevents Circular Flow. Before ANY structure was up, many of the immigrants worked for a while and then returned back home. Since portions of the wall went up, it became much more difficult to return home so they decided to just stay. Another problem created and brought to you by corrupt government involvement.
The Wall invokes Eminent Domain (read my signature).
The Wall will require entry/exit points which will cost businesses more in time/fuel/etc.
The Wall has put Golf Courses, Resorts, Tourism, and actual communities, out of business. This has already happened during the Obama years. This leads to unemployment, and in some cases more Welfare recipients.
The Wall will require MORE government, MORE government personnel, MORE government police state tactics - on the tax payer dime.
"Ending Incentives" is a ZERO cost solution that will not undermine freedom, liberty and fiscal responsibility.
The only intention this government has is to continue Free Handouts while restricting more of the American people's Rights.
If it was truly the "crisis" they say it is, they would simply remove the Incentive and NOT disrupt Private Property and business owners along a 2,000 stretch, which contributes to a $1 Billion PER DAY economy.
For those who break the law, just like Americans who do, there are already laws to deal with that - court > prove guilt > serve jail time. In accordance to the Bill of Rights.
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LOL. Some of us were trying to tell the rest of you this back when Trump was still trying to secure the Republican nomination.
https://www.cato.org/blog/why-no-gov...beautiful-door
“This will be a wall with a big, very beautiful door because we want the legals to come back into the country.” -Donald J. Trump, August 23, 2015
“I want people to come into our country legally. I want to have a big, fat, beautiful open door.” -Donald J. Trump, September 3, 2015
“I want tremendous numbers of people to come in, and we are going to have that big beautiful door in the wall.” -Donald J. Trump, November 2, 2016
“We’re going to have a big, fat beautiful door right in the middle of the wall. We’re going to have people come in, but they’re coming in legally.” -Donald J. Trump, October 28, 2015
Trump is going to ultimately make a DACA deal that will make Obama jealous with envy. Trumprenamedrenegotiated NAFTA. The NAFTA truck deal that lets 4 out of 5 Mexican trucks in the country without inspection is still in place. The whole wall is a joke. Trump has backed off having a wall across the entire border. The wall does nothing about the migrant issue. Oh, and Trump ramping up the surveillance state by executive order (face scanning cameras at airports and on the border wall that already exists) all in the name of....well I'm not actually sure to be honest.
But check this out. Trump is the only president ever to ban a gun accessory via executive order. Unthinking people say "He did that because he knows it will be struck down by the courts." Well....we don't know that well happen. But his state of emergency could be struck down by the courts. Let's say, however, that it doesn't. What happens when president Sanders or Cortez or Warren decide they want to declare an emergency to move money around to "fight climate change?" What then?
Seriously, Trump supporters have not thought this all the way through. And it's said to see such a lack of critical thinking at a place that I once thought thrived on it.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jmdrake again.
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The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
There were no good choices, everyone knew this here and tried to tell you. There was one we all knew who had a history being a serial liar that was saying something different. What was said over and over again that at least with that you could move the overton window or slow things down a bit, throw a monkey wrench into the works and maybe stop things from getting far worse very fast.
We would be either in the exact same place we are now with another candidate or much further down the left hand side of the road.
I am against eminent domain but a country border is a different story. It is necessary to defend the nation and to hell with the immigrants, seriously. Hire American, America first. I know traitors to their own countrymen have a problem with that. Too bad for them, they should just leave for the other side of the wall.
People were supporting Trump while Rand was still in the race. I don't know if that was you specifically, but I know that happened. And "there are no good choices" wasn't a reason to give a free pass to John McCain or Mitt Romney either. Frankly I would have taken Ted Cruz over Donald Trump. But I saw Trumpskiites on here disgustingly run with a fake news "Ted Cruz is an adulterer" smear campaign and if it were true while defending a man who bragged about being a serial adulterer, with married women no less, and who said he never even apologized to God.
That said, I am glad some Trump supporters are waking up to what some of us tried to tell you before. I'm not bashing you for voting for the man. And I will say that who I see the dems putting forward this time are truly frightening and Trump will not have any serious opposition. But nothing that you have "discovered" now about Trump is news to those of us who were actually paying attention. Nothing.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Because sometimes once in a while they will say something that is anchored on the truth.
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."
Calvin Coolidge
Rand was out before Super Tuesday.
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“I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi
How exactly is it "necessary" when it won't even go across the entire border? How exactly is it "necessary" when 4 out of 5 trucks from Mexico are allowed into this country without inspection? And did you notice that the Honduran migrants went to the part of the border where there is already a wall? There's a reason for that. Technically all they have to do to apply for asylum is to get a foot on U.S. soil. The "Mexico" side of the border wall is still U.S. soil. You've been sold a bill of goods.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Some people here were supporting Trump over Rand before Rand was out.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Trumpskiites, that is brilliant. +rep
On Trump:
How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin
But I live in the same place you do. Rand was simply not a choice at that point. We did not vote for Trump, but Rand had already stopped campaigning and had not endorsed anyone.
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“I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi
I think the rationale was that he was better than Hillary, well Romney(maybe not McCain) would also be better than Obama, but we did not go for that. I think with Trump, the winning argument was the lie about securing the border and non interventionist foreign policy. Both policies he is getting a failing grade on. Ann Coulter nailed it on this one, the biggest national emergency is the fact that our president is an idiot.
Rand even before he dropped out was running an educational campaign focusing on things like police abuse. I totally agreed with Rand on that issue but it was pretty clear he was not really running to win. If he was he would have spent more time on issues the country really cared about. I wonder maybe with the Senate race looming and having the campaign funds it was just about keeping his name out there.
To everyone except for a few in this forum it was obvious that he was not focusing on issues that were important to your average Republican primary voters.
Still better than Hillary. He is not completely what he campaigned on, nor ideal but we are not as far down the road as Hillary would have taken us.
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