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    Iraq Lies Redux: Trump Admin Claims Iran/al-Qaeda Alliance

    Iraq Lies Redux: Trump Admin Claims Iran/al-Qaeda Alliance



    Feb. 20 - In an astonishing Washington Times article this week, unnamed Trump Administration officials (who may or may not be called "John Bolton") are claiming that Iran, which has been battling al-Qaeda in Syria for nearly four years, is actually secretly allied with al-Qaeda and therefore Iran can be attacked with no further Congressional authorization. Are we seeing the old "babies thrown from incubators" lies resurrected to gin up a war with Iran? Warning lights in today's Liberty Report.
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    The US has allied with al-Qaeda since 9-11.
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    Related discussion.

    Asked in a recent panel discussion at the RT show CrossTalk if Iran is a national security threat to the United States, Ludwig von Mises Institute Founder and Chairman Lew Rockwell answered that that claim is ‘baloney’ used for “justifying imperialism.”
    ...
    http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...united-states/
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    The following is the article being discussed in The Liberty Report:

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    Iran-al Qaeda alliance may provide legal rationale for U.S. military strikes
    By Ben Wolfgang and Guy Taylor

    Iran is providing high-level al Qaeda operatives with a clandestine sanctuary to funnel fighters, money and weapons across the Middle East, according to Trump administration officials [Unnamed sources. - B4L] who warn that the long-elusive, complex relationship between two avowed enemies of America has evolved into an unacceptable global security threat.

    With the once-prominent Islamic State receding from the spotlight, The Washington Times has learned that the administration is focusing increasingly on the unlikely alliance between Iran and al Qaeda, with what some sources say is an eye toward establishing a potential legal justification for military strikes against Iran or its proxies.

    Skeptics have long doubted that Iran, which this year marked its 40th anniversary as a Shiite Muslim theocracy, could find common cause with a radical Sunni Islamist group such as al Qaeda, but U.S. officials argue that a confluence of interests — and a common enemy in the U.S. and its allies — has brought a level of covert cooperation and coordination that has reached new heights. [Sounds a lot like when the neocons were pushing the Trump-Russia collusion hypothesis. - B4L]

    The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed by Congress in the days after the 9/11 attacks provided the legal framework for President George W. Bush to order U.S. military action against the Taliban for harboring Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda fighters in Afghanistan. The law has underpinned the U.S. counterterrorism campaign and has largely gone unchanged for the past 17 years through three presidential administrations.

    Congressional and legal sources say the law may now provide a legal rationale for striking Iranian territory or proxies should President Trump decide that Tehran poses a looming threat to the U.S. or Israel and that economic sanctions are not strong enough to neutralize the threat.
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    The administration has not publicly commented on whether it is considering strikes on the grounds where Iran is willingly offering safe haven to al Qaeda leaders. But some lawmakers and other sources say the discussion is taking place among Mr. Trump’s top aides, including National Security Adviser John R. Bolton and other sharp critics of Iran, who stress that all options are on the table for dealing with Tehran’s institutionalized support for terrorism and its nuclear weapons potential.
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    Behind the scenes in Washington, there is increasing speculation that the White House could make a case for military strikes using the existing AUMF, which authorizes the president to use all “appropriate force” to target those who “planned, authorized, committed or aided” the 9/11 attacks on America, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

    Legal analysts say the administration likely would have a strong argument.
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    More: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...gal-rationale/
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The US has allied with al-Qaeda since 9-11.
    Long before that- the US formed Al Qaeda to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Long before that- the US formed Al Qaeda to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.
    Yes but we pretended that they were our deadly enemies after 9/11.

    We have since allied with them on multiple occasions though so complaining about anyone else allying with them is ridiculous.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes but we pretended that they were our deadly enemies after 9/11.

    We have since allied with them on multiple occasions though so complaining about anyone else allying with them is ridiculous.
    And I agree- don't faint.
    There is no spoon.



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