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    Rand Paul 'Disappointed' in Border Bill, Emergency Declaration

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ra.../15/id/902946/

    Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said he's "disappointed" with the border security bill and President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration to build additional miles of border barrier.

    Paul tweeted his disagreement with the 1,159-page bill Thursday evening, which passed in both houses of Congress. The White House confirmed Trump would declare the emergency, which he made official Friday morning.



    He added, "I, too, want stronger border security, including a wall in some areas. But how we do things matter. Over 1,000 pages dropped in the middle of the night and extraconstitutional executive actions are wrong, no matter which party does them."

    A bipartisan group of senators and members of Congress hashed out a Homeland Security spending bill this week to stave off another government shutdown ahead of a Friday night deadline. The measure allocates just under $1.4 billion for border fencing, less than Trump's request of $5.7 billion.

    Trump will sign the bill and use a national emergency declaration to secure additional funding for the wall.


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    He said it was a great victory for Trump a day or two ago.
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    1,159-page bill

    What's Nancy Peyote's favorite response?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    1,159-page bill

    What's Nancy Peyote's favorite response?

    You've got to sign the bill to see what's in it, Mr. President?
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    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    You've got to sign the bill to see what's in it, Mr. President?
    Exactly

    We need to sign so we can see what's in it........


    Something like that.......good lord wut a foolish woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He said it was a great victory for Trump a day or two ago.
    He was happy Trump got some money for a section of wall but is not happy with Trump declaring an emergency to get the money to build more. Authorization of spending and taxation is Congress's job according to the Constitution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He said it was a great victory for Trump a day or two ago.
    Maybe that was before he talked to his dad?

    Regardless, the wall is a stupid distraction and an increase in totalitarianism. Trump doesn't even really care about it but has to push it or get crucified by his right flank. And the dems are political whores to push against in when they supported building the partial wall in the first place. Trump's "expansion" isn't really that much in the grand scheme of things, but because of political pandering to really stupid people he will probably end up pushing for a Gulf to Pacific Ocean wall before it's all said and done. Then he will build that "big beautiful door" in the wall to let future DACA parents in. Oh yeah, and face scanning cameras all the way across. Meanwhile NAFTA, which he [strike]renegotaiated[strike] renamed and regurgitated, allows for Mexican trucks to come across the border without inspection. That's how your illicit drugs are coming in. That and from the Canadian border. But hey, get distracted by migrant caravans and conflate issues that have nothing to do with each other cause....'merika!
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    This should fit in well with our future as a nation... Maybe, now that they've secured funding, they could go with a nice stone structure? You know, to match the head stones?




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    The technicalities around Donald Trump's N.E decree could trigger his impeachment. A line has been drawn in the sand.

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    This is just a few pages of the 1,159:


    Page 188
    8 (h) REFUGEE ASSISTANCE IN NORTH AFRICA.-Not
    9 later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary
    10 of State, after consultation with the United Nations
    11 High Commissioner for Refugees and the Executive Direc-
    12 tor of the World Food Programme, shall submit a report
    13 to the Committees on Appropriations describing steps
    14 taken to strengthen monitoring of the delivery of humani-
    15 tarian assistance provided for refugees in North Africa,
    16 including any steps taken to ensure that all vulnerable ref-
    17 ugees are receiving such assistance.


    Page 255
    12 (k) TRANSFER OF FUNDS.-Of the funds appro-
    13 priated by this Act under the heading "Economic Support
    14 Fund", $25,000,000 shall be transferred to, and merged
    15 with, funds appropriated under the heading "International
    16 Organizations and Programs", of which $23,000,000 shall
    17 be for a contribution to support the United Nations resi-
    18 dent coordinator system and $2,000,000 shall be for a
    19 contribution to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund.


    Page 314
    6 UNITED NATIONS POPULATION FUND
    7 SEC. 7072. (a) CONTRIBUTION.-Of the funds made
    8 available under the heading "International Organizations
    9 and Programs" in this Act for fiscal year 2019,
    10 $32,500,000 shall be made available for the United Na-
    11 tions Population Fund (UNFP A).
    12 (b) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.-Funds appropriated
    13 by this Act for UNFPA, that are not made available for
    14 UNFP A because of the operation of any provision of law,
    15 shall be transferred to the "Global Health Programs" ac-
    16 count and shall be made available for family planning, ma-
    17 ternal, and reproductive health activities, subject to the
    18 regular notification procedures of the Committees on Ap-
    19 propriations.
    Last edited by PAF; 02-20-2019 at 04:00 PM.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This is just a few pages of the 1,159:


    Page 188
    8 (h) REFUGEE ASSISTANCE IN NORTH AFRICA.-Not
    9 later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary
    10 of State, after consultation with the United Nations
    11 High Commissioner for Refugees and the Executive Direc-
    12 tor of the World Food Programme, shall submit a report
    13 to the Committees on Appropriations describing steps
    14 taken to strengthen monitoring of the delivery of humani-
    15 tarian assistance provided for refugees in North Africa,
    16 including any steps taken to ensure that all vulnerable ref-
    17 ugees are receiving such assistance.


    Page 255
    12 (k) TRANSFER OF FUNDS.-Of the funds appro-
    13 priated by this Act under the heading "Economic Support
    14 Fund", $25,000,000 shall be transferred to, and merged
    15 with, funds appropriated under the heading "International
    16 Organizations and Programs", of which $23,000,000 shall
    17 be for a contribution to support the United Nations resi-
    18 dent coordinator system and $2,000,000 shall be for a
    19 contribution to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund.


    Page 314
    6 UNITED NATIONS POPULATION FUND
    7 SEC. 7072. (a) CONTRIBUTION.-Of the funds made
    8 available under the heading "International Organizations
    9 and Programs" in this Act for fiscal year 2019,
    10 $32,500,000 shall be made available for the United Na-
    11 tions Population Fund (UNFP A).
    12 (b) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.-Funds appropriated
    13 by this Act for UNFPA, that are not made available for
    14 UNFP A because of the operation of any provision of law,
    15 shall be transferred to the "Global Health Programs" ac-
    16 count and shall be made available for family planning, ma-
    17 ternal, and reproductive health activities, subject to the
    18 regular notification procedures of the Committees on Ap-
    19 propriations.
    Wow! So this is how congress shows concern for unpaid U.S. government workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brushfire View Post
    This should fit in well with our future as a nation... Maybe, now that they've secured funding, they could go with a nice stone structure? You know, to match the head stones?

    That wall won't keep out all those Democrat voters on the other side, either ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    That wall won't keep out all those Democrat voters on the other side, either ...
    LMAO. They put a nice stone wall around the ones in the picture but they still manage to get out and vote from the grave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    That wall won't keep out all those Democrat voters on the other side, either ...
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