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    About what age were you

    When it began to dawn on you that the majority of elected officials are insane , incompetent or evil ?
    Do something Danke



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    When Nixon was in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    When Nixon was in office.
    Whoa, Hi Carly.
    "The Patriarch"

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    16
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    6 (almost 7)

    Context: Bush Sr. election vs. Dukakis
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    16
    Probably about the same for me .
    Do something Danke

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    I asked my mom who she was going to vote for President, she said Bush. I asked why, she said because Dukakis let murderers out of jail...

    I was like, holy $#@!, what a horrible answer.. I just asked why she was voting for Bush.. Not only might this dudukaka murderer guy be our President, but she can't even say anything nice about the guy running against him!!

    We're $#@!ed!!

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    12, LBJ. A no brainer.

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    LBJ is like Satans right hand man no doubt .
    Do something Danke

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    I don't recall an exact age...20 something...but I do remember, like it was yesterday, the incident that make it clear to me that this government had utterly run amok, was a deadly clear and present danger, was working against the interests of the people and was tyrannical and corrupt.

    None of those things have changed, regardless of what necessities have made me change or modify my outlook on things.


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    I can pin it down to 9/11. I think I was 18.

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    It was around 07/08(so i was around 17/18 years old) when ron paul was campaigning for pres, I saw a man that ignited a fire in me and found him to be making alot of sense compared to the other candidates at the time and woke me up as result
    ''There were four million people in the American Colonies and we had Jefferson and Franklin. Now we have over 300 million and the two top guys are Trump and Biden. What can you draw from this? Darwin was wrong.'' ~ Mort Sahl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I don't recall an exact age...20 something...but I do remember, like it was yesterday, the incident that make it clear to me that this government had utterly run amok, was a deadly clear and present danger, was working against the interests of the people and was tyrannical and corrupt.

    None of those things have changed, regardless of what necessities have made me change or modify my outlook on things.

    Ditto. Before Waco, I regarded politicians and politics as merely insincere, venal and incompetent (with rare exceptions, such as in the case of Ron Paul).

    After Waco, I realized that descriptors such as "vicious", "murderous" and "actively evil" were far more accurate, appropriate and to the point.

    Ruby Ridge had primed me for this shift in perspective, but it didn't quite get me there. Until Waco, I thought of Ruby Ridge more as a tragic aberration than as a symptom of the system's essential and inherent vileness. Events at Waco and their aftermath corrected that mistake. (And for as supreme a specimen of irony as one could ask for, moving past the "legacy" of Ruby Ridge was one of the Feds' motivations behind the attempted PR stunt that kicked off the whole Waco incident ..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I don't recall an exact age...20 something...but I do remember, like it was yesterday, the incident that make it clear to me that this government had utterly run amok, was a deadly clear and present danger, was working against the interests of the people and was tyrannical and corrupt.

    None of those things have changed, regardless of what necessities have made me change or modify my outlook on things.

    This was an eye-opener for me as well.
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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    Late teens:

    On Trump:
    How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin



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    In 2007, I was 34... Ron cured my apathy but i saw the scale of the cage we are in
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    I grew up in California. 13.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    I think I realized the average person was insane, incompetent or evil in high school when I realized how worthless the average school teacher was. I think 70% of teachers are socialists and 90% are placeholders. So I always faulted the electorate who votes more than the individual politicians.

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    20-21 years old when I started looking into Ron Paul back in 2013. I didn't really pay attention to politics that much when I was in high school and the early years of college.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 02-15-2019 at 09:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    When it began to dawn on you that the majority of elected officials are insane , incompetent or evil ?
    There was always some cynicism, but I believed in the Republican party until I was in my early 20s (HW Bush presidency). Then I thought they were all just incompetent or old school corrupt and just needed to be educated on Libertarian ideals. It wasn't until 2007 (mid 30s) when I realized there were some truly evil people in power.

    ETA: I always knew there were some evil people running things, but 2007 was when I grasped the depth of it.
    Last edited by RJB; 02-15-2019 at 09:50 AM.
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    Kent State Nixon era...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I was born rejecting all authority.
    Pretty much this, although I continued to vote anyway.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I don't recall an exact age...20 something...but I do remember, like it was yesterday, the incident that make it clear to me that this government had utterly run amok, was a deadly clear and present danger, was working against the interests of the people and was tyrannical and corrupt.

    None of those things have changed, regardless of what necessities have made me change or modify my outlook on things.

    Ayup.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Ditto. Before Waco, I regarded politicians and politics as merely insincere, venal and incompetent (with rare exceptions, such as in the case of Ron Paul).

    After Waco, I realized that descriptors such as "vicious", "murderous" and "actively evil" were far more accurate, appropriate and to the point.

    Ruby Ridge had primed me for this shift in perspective, but it didn't quite get me there. Until Waco, I thought of Ruby Ridge more as a tragic aberration than as a symptom of the system's essential and inherent vileness. Events at Waco and their aftermath corrected that mistake. (And for as supreme a specimen of irony as one could ask for, moving past the "legacy" of Ruby Ridge was one of the Feds' motivations behind the attempted PR stunt that kicked off the whole Waco incident ..)
    Precisely.

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    18..

    Though I had questions in my teens... Time in the Army convinced me of the total insanity.

    I was 17,, at Ft Polk for the Fall of Saigon. been watching since.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    I went through the process of getting a "work permit" at 14. It was also that age when I first visited a government school.

    It was pretty self-evident then.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Wasn't really *woke* at all till muh early-mid 20s. #latebloomer But I got really radical really fast.
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    Why are we limiting it to elected officials? My dad was an entrepreneur so I grew up from the get go with a distaste for bureaucrats. He went rounds with the OSHA $#@!s in the 80s.

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    18

    I voted Perot in my first election, but I must admit that I was more of a local election kind of guy. I hated the local establishment politicians - a horribly corrupt and evil bunch of human beings. The national issues annoyed me, but I was often affected by local politics.

    At 5 years old I voted in the kindergarten election for Regan, and my dad (a carter fan) just about lost his sh!t... I vaguely remember the school issues driving my opinion, but I clearly remember my dad being upset (what might one expect from a carter fan?)

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