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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Same goes for those orange-colored glasses, it seems.
    On Trump:
    How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin



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  3. #122
    I'm surprised that anyone at all here is defending this declaration of National Emergency.

    The Ron Paul Forums of 2012 would have been opposed to the President using National Emergency powers to override the congress for any reason.
    If you wanted some sort of Ideological purity, you'll get none of that from me.

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam I am View Post
    I'm surprised that anyone at all here is defending this declaration of National Emergency.

    The Ron Paul Forums of 2012 would have been opposed to the President using National Emergency powers to override the congress for any reason.
    Well, maybe not for "any" reason. I mean, the Federal Debt is a ticking time bomb... If there was ever a real "national emergency", that is it!
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Well, maybe not for "any" reason. I mean, the Federal Debt is a ticking time bomb... If there was ever a real "national emergency", that is it!
    A thousand times yeas! Out of rep.
    On Trump:
    How conservative Republicans can continue to support this arrogant imposter—the man who brags about inflicting the world with the Covid mark of the beast; the man who said, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”; and the man who deliberately played and then set up Stewart Rhodes (of course, Stewart was all too eager to be Trump’s patsy) for an 18-year prison sentence—is truly beyond my comprehension.” Chuck Baldwin

  6. #125
    Somewhere, @TheTexan, is ejaculating.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How is Trump growing government?
    Every budget and spending bill he has signed has been larger than the last.


    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I mean, this is basic logic that a Kindergartner should be able to understand.
    Agreed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Somewhere, @TheTexan, is ejaculating.
    This isn't something to joke about. It's a super serious national emergency. Many lives and walls are in danger.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 02-15-2019 at 03:39 PM.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Every budget and spending bill he has signed has been larger than the last.




    Agreed.

    This thread is about the national emergency.. I asked how Trump's national emergency was growing government. You are like the fifth person to respond incorrectly and out of context.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    it's time to repel the f***king invasion
    This x1000!!! We need to repel the bastards that have taken our liberties and threatened our freedom!

    We need to take this fight to these bastards! Let's all go to Home Depot and find them, there's usually a few of them there!!!
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This thread is about the national emergency.. I asked how Trump's national emergency was growing government. You are like the fifth person to respond incorrectly and out of context.
    It's almost as if noone here is taking the national emergency seriously. (besides us)
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    It's almost as if noone here is taking the national emergency seriously. (besides us)
    I'm not taking the national emergency seriously, all Trump is doing is moving money that would be spent on drug enforcement and is using it to build a wall. One of those things is Constitutional (the wall) and one is not (drug enforcement).

    It's those guys who are taking it seriously, like it is going to be some horrible thing, another big mistake by Trump.. how exactly is that?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    This isn't something to joke about. It's a super serious national emergency. Many lives and walls are in danger.
    What truly grinds my gears is that all of these $#@! hole country migrants are making a mockery of the sanctity of our voting systems.

    Is nothing sacred anymore?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    What truly grinds my gears is that all of these $#@! hole country migrants are making a mockery of the sanctity of our voting systems.

    Is nothing sacred anymore?
    Yes it's absolutely ridiculous, that these illegal immigrants are allowed to vote for all these socialist policies.

    Only Americans should be allowed to do that.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  16. #134
    Welfare is for Americans!! Donald Trump's government is creating thousands of welfare jobs, adding billions of dollars to the GDP. Don't people realize that when these construction workers start spending that money we will all be rich?

    The usual pessimists on RPF can't even be bothered to see God's Work. Sad!
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Yes it's absolutely ridiculous, that these illegal immigrants are allowed to vote for all these socialist policies.

    Only Americans should be allowed to do that.
    I don't know if you're joking or not but Donald Trump has campaigned on being the last blockade of socialism.

    I, for one, take him super serious and I am proud that we have such a free market capitalist in the White House.

    Could you imagine the socialist boondoggles this country would be undertaking if Hilary Clinton had been elected? She would have bankrupted this country.

    Donald Trump isn't perfect but at least he, as a businessman, understands assets and liabilities and he is working to get this ship back on track.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  18. #136
    He needs to declare a National Emergency on jobs. I went to use my food card the other day and there were only two cashiers working.

    I felt like I was in Venezuela.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump



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  20. #137

    Exclamation Home Depot - "Allahu Akbar"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    This x1000!!! We need to repel the bastards that have taken our liberties and threatened our freedom!

    We need to take this fight to these bastards! Let's all go to Home Depot and find them, there's usually a few of them there!!!

    FILE - Authorities stand near a damaged Home Depot truck after a motorist drove onto a bike path near the World Trade Center memorial, striking and killing several people in New York, Oct. 31, 2017.

    An Uzbek national is accused of using a rented truck to mow down pedestrians on a bike path Tuesday in New York City, killing at least eight and injuring 12, in what Police Commissioner James O'Neill called "the worst terror attack in New York City since Sept. 11, 2001."

    According to NYPD Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counterterrorism John Miller, the suspect, Sayfullo Saipov, left handwritten notes pledging his support for the Islamic State group.

    It's not uncommon following mass-casualty events like the Tuesday attack in New York City that people become confused about whether the incidents amount to terrorism. The U.S. government has a strict legal definition of terrorism, which the FBI describes as an attack motivated by "political, religious, social, racial or environmental" beliefs.

    Due to Saipov's Islamic radicalization and his support for IS, authorities quickly labeled his attack as terrorism. After he used his truck to run over pedestrians, authorities say Saipov began shouting "Allahu Akbar," which means "God is great" in Arabic, and is commonly uttered by Islamic terrorists.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/difference...r/4095806.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Well, maybe not for "any" reason. I mean, the Federal Debt is a ticking time bomb... If there was ever a real "national emergency", that is it!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Yes it's absolutely ridiculous, that these illegal immigrants are allowed to vote for all these socialist policies.

    Only Americans should be allowed to do that.
    Immigrants vote for bigger government at twice the rate of citizens. We are giving away welfare to illegal immigrants to come here, then only to vote for bigger government.

    I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Immigrants vote for bigger government at twice the rate of citizens. We are giving away welfare to illegal immigrants to come here, then only to vote for bigger government.

    I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
    You know who also votes for bigger government at twice the rate of everyone else?

    Black people.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    You know who also votes for bigger government at twice the rate of everyone else?

    Black people.
    We can't do anything about the ones born here.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    You know who also votes for bigger government at twice the rate of everyone else?

    Black people.
    Surprisingly, they are a bit better, actually closer to asians.

    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We can't do anything about the ones born here.
    Can we at least put it to a vote?

    ....or are you too PC for that?
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This thread is about the national emergency.. I asked how Trump's national emergency was growing government. You are like the fifth person to respond incorrectly and out of context.
    Trump to declare national emergency for border wall after signing spending bill



    Yes, I know that a trumpkin hid the lede in the title, but it's still there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Immigrants vote for bigger government at twice the rate of citizens. We are giving away welfare to illegal immigrants to come here, then only to vote for bigger government.

    I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.
    Well then call it a national emergency to end welfare. And end big government. That’s the real problem right?
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire



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  29. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Somewhere, @TheTexan, is ejaculating.
    "The Patriarch"

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Well then call it a national emergency to end welfare. And end big government. That’s the real problem right?
    Run on that platform, get elected and say it is the will of the people. I would frame it as giving welfare back to the states to run, though.. with all the people dependent on welfare, it is probably something that needs to be scaled back over time.

    Trump didn't run on that. Trump did win, though, and the result will be less people voting for big government in the future than if he lost. Because he is fulfilling his campaign promises.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  31. #147
    http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/...onal-emergency

    Do The Wall And Government Shutdown Justify A National Emergency?

    The words "National Emergency" should send shivers down the spine of anyone that values their liberty. At the same time, these words are music to the ears of those who lust after power. President Trump's threats to rule by fiat should not be taken lightly. Ron Paul discuses on today's Liberty Report.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 02-15-2019 at 05:42 PM.

  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Run on that platform, get elected and say it is the will of the people.
    And run the country by executive fiat. The battle cry of the populist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    And run the country by executive fiat. The battle cry of the populist.
    Everything Trump is doing is legal, when we have set things right we can change that but there is no reason to fight with both hands tied behind our backs.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    And run the country by executive fiat. The battle cry of the populist.


    FDR and some other past presidents actually bypassed congress much more. Clinton and Trump are virtually tied with executive orders per year, at 45.5 versus 46.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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