Trump to declare national emergency for border wall after signing spending bill

[dannno]

And run the country by executive fiat. The battle cry of the populist.

If it's for freedom, I have no problem with it.

[Zippyjuan]

Everything Trump is doing is legal, when we have set things right we can change that but there is no reason to fight with both hands tied behind our backs.

If Clinton was trying to circumvent Congress via Executive Orders and Fiat and emergency declarations would you be applauding her actions? There was a workplace shooting today. What if she declared a national emergency to institute gun restrictions? It would be legal for her to do so. Congress is supposed to determine spending- not the President.

[Swordsmyth]

If Clinton was trying to circumvent Congress via Executive Orders and Fiat and emergency declarations would you be applauding her actions? There was a workplace shooting today. What if she declared a national emergency to institute gun restrictions? It would be legal for her to do so. Congress is supposed to determine spending- not the President.

It would NOT be legal for her to do so, Congress has not passed laws giving the President power over guns and the Constitution forbids any branch of government from taking them and Congress did determine this spending when it passed laws giving the President the power to do this.

[TheCount]

If it's for freedom, I have no problem with it.

Yes, the freedom of dictatorship. We know.

[dannno]

Yes, the freedom of dictatorship. We know.

Uh, no the freedom from living under socialism. Derrrrr.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, the freedom of dictatorship. We know.

That's what the open borders crowd wants.

[TheCount]

That's what the open borders crowd wants.

How very Orwellian of you.

[Swordsmyth]

How very Orwellian of you.

How very Orwellian of you.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

We know.

Who is "we?"

[Swordsmyth]

Who is "we?"

The open borders mafia that wants the freedom to live under tyranny, zippy actually made that argument recently.

[timosman]

https://www.modbee.com/news/state/ca...226333740.html

California plans to sue over President Donald Trump’s decision to declare a national emergency at the Mexico border, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Friday.

If filed, the lawsuit would mark the state’s 46th legal challenge to Trump administration policies. This time, Newsom said, the state intends to contest Trump’s use of executive power for what the governor calls a manufactured crisis at the border.

“Our message back to the White House is simple and clear: California will see you in court,” Newsom said.


In a speech in the White House Rose Garden, Donald Trump announced the emergency declaration to build a wall along the border. He described illegal immigration over the border as “an invasion of our country.”

An emergency declaration lets the White House pay for the wall by repurposing money Congress previously allocated for military construction and counterdrug operations, aides said in a briefing with reporters Friday morning.


Trump has been unable to get that money from Congress. Democrats have refused to provide the $5.7 billion he requested in December spending negotiations. The disagreement led to a 35-day partial government shutdown, which ended in late January.

Administration officials told reporters they have identified as much as $8 billion they believe they can redirect to wall construction under the emergency declaration.

That includes $3.6 billion allocated for military construction and $2.5 billion from a counternarcotics account that funds National Guard efforts to stop drugs from flowing across the border, among other activities.

Instead, the administration wants to add about 200 miles of barriers along the border, augmenting the roughly 650 miles of border that already have some kind of wall.

A senior White House official told reporters the administration does not plan to redirect money from flood-control projects in the Sacramento region.

Reports last month that the White House could tap those civil works funds prompted Democratic Rep. John Garamendi and fellow California Democrats in the House to introduce legislation to block such a move.

Those projects are “not on the table currently,” the White House official said.

Newsom and Attorney General Xavier Beccera at a joint news conference declined to say when they would file the lawsuit they are preparing.

Becerra said he needs to review the text of the president’s declaration before he can say exactly what his office will do. He said he anticipates California will join several other states in suing over the declaration.

“President Trump got one thing right this morning about his declaration, when he said ‘I didn’t have to do this,’” Becerra said, referring to Trump’s remarks at the White House. “In fact, he can’t do this… This is a president showing his disdain for the rule of law and our U.S. Constitution.”

The president has argued the country needs physical barriers on the border to stem the flow of illegal drugs into the United States. Democrats have countered that most of the drugs coming over the Southwest border are brought in through ports of entry.

A spending deal Congress passed on Thursday includes an increase in funding for new screening equipment and 600 new customs officers at border crossings, including California’s five busy land ports of entry. That legislation, which the president signed to prevent another partial government shutdown, also provides $191 million for infrastructure improvements at the Calexico border crossing.

San Diego Regional Chamber of Commerce Vice President Paola Avila said “the new federal funding will help improve ports of entry efficiency and security.” That will have an economic impact, Avila said, because 90 percent “of California’s exports to Mexico are processed through our land ports of entry.”

Newsom’s announcement about the pending lawsuit caps a week in which he and Trump repeatedly tested each other. On Monday, Newsom announced that he’d scale down a California National Guard deployment that Trump requested a year ago. Newsom wanted to reassign the troops to other priorities, such as preparing for wildfires and seizing illegal drugs.

On Wednesday, Trump declared in a Twitter message that he’d demand California return $3.5 billion to the federal government after Newsom put the brakes on costly legs of the state’s $77 billion high speed rail project.

Newsom on Friday repeated language he used in his State of the State speech earlier this week, arguing that the border wall Trump wants is a “vanity project” that distracts from more pressing challenges, such as delivering assistance to Californians who lost homes in wildfires.

Newsom on Thursday met with victims of the Camp Fire, which killed 86 people in November.


“I cannot impress upon the president more than at this moment not to play politics with any emergency declarations that would somehow impact the efforts here,” the Democrat said Thursday while meeting with Camp Fire victims in Northern California. “This is an area where politics has no place.”

[Pauls' Revere]

Multi-Dimensional Dark Matter Wormhole Chess.

[kahless]

This was really a defining moment in the future direction of the country and I do not see how the right can come back from this. Conservatives barely had the numbers as it is and Trump was and is the last chance to stop it all. Any gains made in the last few years will simply be rolled back with the Democratic Socialist majorities due to the massive legal and illegal immigration.

If something does not turn this around history will likely view the Trump's in this period sort of like the Romanov's without meeting the same fate. Simply the last family before the political shift away from a country that once represented Capitalism and majority white Christian European culture.

[kcchiefs6465]

FDR and some other past presidents actually bypassed congress much more. Clinton and Trump are virtually tied with executive orders per year, at 45.5 versus 46.

Oh okay. Here I thought he was expanding executive powers faster than Clinton. Here Trump is scaling back executive overreach in the same sense that proposed budget increase decreases constitute slashing spending.

[Swordsmyth]

This was really a defining moment in the future direction of the country and I do not see how the right can come back from this. Conservatives barely had the numbers as it is and Trump was and is the last chance to stop it all. Any gains made in the last few years will simply be rolled back with the Democratic Socialist majorities due to the massive legal and illegal immigration.

If something does not turn this around history will likely view the Trump's in this period sort of like the Romanov's without meeting the same fate. Simply the last family before the political shift away from a country that once represented Capitalism and majority white Christian European culture.

Only Q or a civil war will save us, Trump has been doing the best possible job considering the RINOs and the courts and now the Demoncrats in the House.

Hopefully Q is part of his efforts and will actually payoff.

The last time we actually had a chance with anything other than Q or a civil war was Pat Buchanan but we we got the Shrubs and Clinton instead.

[Zippyjuan]

Only Q or a civil war will save us, Trump has been doing the best possible job considering the RINOs and the courts and now the Demoncrats in the House.

Hopefully Q is part of his efforts and will actually payoff.

The last time we actually had a chance with anything other than Q or a civil war was Pat Buchanan but we we got the Shrubs and Clinton instead.

What is Q going to do besides post weird things on the internet to drive people crazy and distract them?

[Swordsmyth]

Oh okay. Here I thought he was expanding executive powers faster than Clinton. Here Trump is scaling back executive overreach in the same sense that proposed budget increase decreases constitute slashing spending.

But is he using the executive powers for things that will result in less government in the long run or for things that will result in more government in the long term?

If the previous drivers used 4WD to get us way off track it may be necessary to use 4WD to get back on track.

[kcchiefs6465]

But is he using the executive powers for things that will result in less government in the long run or for things that will result in more government in the long term?

If the previous drivers used 4WD to get us way off track it may be necessary to use 4WD to get back on track.

He's abandoned free market principles to save the free market.

Jeep style.

[Swordsmyth]

He's abandoned free market principles to save the free market.

Jeep style.

You can't abandon something that was never there since long before you took over.

[TheTexan]

Only Q or a civil war will save us, Trump has been doing the best possible job considering the RINOs and the courts and now the Demoncrats in the House.

Hopefully Q is part of his efforts and will actually payoff.

The last time we actually had a chance with anything other than Q or a civil war was Pat Buchanan but we we got the Shrubs and Clinton instead.

I don't know if I really actually trust Q. I'm glad that he's now in America and he's working on our side, but I don't like that he used to work for the British government in their R&D division. He could still be loyal to Britain.

[TheTexan]

You can't abandon something that was never there since long before you took over.

Government spending and overreach has gotten out of control in recent decades. But I think it will be a lot better after we spend 6+ billion dollars to make sure people can't walk over an invisible line.

I can feel the freedom already.

[Swordsmyth]

Government spending and overreach has gotten out of control in recent decades. But I think it will be a lot better after we spend 6+ billion dollars to make sure people can't walk over an invisible line.

I can feel the freedom already.

It will save much more than that in welfare, socialism, incarceration and property damage costs.

I would still prefer massive patrols but that might actually cost more in the long run.

You can't put a price on freedom and independence.

[TheTexan]

It will save much more than that in welfare, socialism, incarceration and property damage costs.

I would still prefer massive patrols but that might actually cost more in the long run.

You can't put a price on freedom and independence.

Massive patrols of police? That sounds awesome!

[Swordsmyth]

Massive patrols of police? That sounds awesome!

Massive patrols of the military or the Border Patrol.

It would be awesome.

[TheTexan]

Immigrants vote for bigger government at twice the rate of citizens. We are giving away welfare to illegal immigrants to come here, then only to vote for bigger government.

I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp.

Well, if I put my 4D chess hat on, they may have a point. Think about it - Trump ran on an anti-immigration platform and it's a huge reason why he got elected. Trump's policies are way deeper than that though - he supports free markets, non-interventionism, and small government. These are all great but the average American doesn't care - they only care about immigration.

If Trump solves the immigration issue in 2019, where does that leave us in 2020? Or 2024? If we truly fix immigration, and deport all the Mexicans, then 10 years down the road all these Trump voters who supported Trump because of immigration issues might go back to being Democrat liberal voters.

But if immigration stays a problem and never gets fixed, then Trump can run on that platform again in 2020 and easily win, and similarly other liberty candidates can also run on anti-immigration platforms and sneak into office the same way Trump did, all the while secretly advancing the pro-free-market pro-liberty agenda.

This may be why Trump signed the spending bill - he knew it was a bad bill and wouldn't fix immigration but maybe that's the point. It sounds counter intuitive but if you've read Art of the Deal you know it makes sense.

[TheTexan]

Massive patrols of the military or the Border Patrol.

It would be awesome.

So military police basically. In the US! So awesome!

[Swordsmyth]

So military police basically. Serving domestically. Even better!

The border isn't domestic, it is the border.

[TheTexan]

The border isn't domestic, it is the border.

I wonder how many bases we can fit on a 1 dimensional line. Probably a lot!

[Swordsmyth]

Statement by the President

Today, I have signed into law H.J. Res. 31, the “Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2019” (the “Act”), which authorizes appropriations to fund the operation of a number of agencies in the Federal Government through September 30, 2019.

Certain provisions of the Act (such as Division F, under the heading “Contribution for International Peacekeeping Activities”) would require advance notice to the Congress before the President may direct certain military actions or provide certain forms of military assistance. In signing the Act, I reiterate the well-established understanding of the executive branch that these types of provisions encompass only military actions for which providing advance notice is feasible and consistent with the President’s constitutional authority and duty as Commander in Chief to ensure national security. In addition, Division C, section 527, and Division A, section 516, both restrict the transfer of Guantanamo detainees to the United States. I will treat these, and similar provisions, consistent with the President’s constitutional authority as Commander in Chief.
Numerous provisions could, in certain circumstances, interfere with the exercise of the President’s constitutional authorities to negotiate international agreements (such as Division C, sections 509, 518, and 530; and Division F, sections 7010(c) and 7013(a)), to articulate the position of the United States in international fora (such as Division F, sections 7025(c), 7029(a), (b)(1), 7031(d)(2), 7042(h)(1), 7043(g)(1), 7047(b)(3), 7054(b), and 7060(c)(2)(D), (3)), to receive ambassadors (such as Division F, section 7031(c)), and to recognize foreign governments (such as Division F, section 7047(b)(2)(A)). My Administration will treat each of these provisions consistent with the President’s constitutional authorities with respect to foreign relations.
Division C, section 537, provides that the Department of Justice may not use any funds to prevent implementation of medical marijuana laws by various States and territories. I will treat this provision consistent with the President’s constitutional responsibility to faithfully execute the laws of the United States.
Certain provisions within Division D, title II, under the heading “Office of Management and Budget — Salaries and Expenses” impose restrictions on supervision by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) of work performed by executive departments and agencies, including provisos that no funds made available to OMB “may be expended for the altering of the annual work plan developed by the Corps of Engineers for submission to the Committees on Appropriations”; that “none of the funds provided in this or prior Acts shall be used, directly or indirectly, by the Office of Management and Budget, for evaluating or determining if water resource project or study reports submitted by the Chief of Engineers acting through the Secretary of the Army are in compliance with all applicable laws, regulations, and requirements relevant to the Civil Works water resource planning process”; and that “none of the funds appropriated in this Act for the Office of Management and Budget may be used for the purpose of reviewing any agricultural marketing orders or any activities or regulations under the provisions of the Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937 (7 U.S.C. 601 et seq.).” The President has well-established authority to supervise and oversee the executive branch and to rely on subordinates, including aides within the Executive Office of the President, to assist in supervising the executive branch. Legislation that significantly impedes the President’s ability to supervise the executive branch or obtain the assistance of aides in this function violates the separation of powers by undermining the President’s ability to fulfill his constitutional responsibilities, including the responsibility to faithfully execute the laws of the United States. My Administration will, therefore, construe these restrictions in Division C, title II consistent with these Presidential duties.
Several provisions (such as Division F, section 7041(b)(3)) mandate or regulate the submission of certain executive branch information to the Congress. I will treat these provisions in a manner consistent with the President’s constitutional authority to withhold information that could impair foreign relations, national security, the deliberative processes of the executive branch, or the performance of the President’s constitutional duties. In particular, Division D, section 713, prohibits the use of appropriations to pay the salary of any Federal officer or employee who interferes with or prohibits certain official communications between Federal employees and Members of Congress or of any Federal officer or employee who takes adverse action against an officer or employee because of such communications. I will construe these provisions not to apply to circumstances that would detract from my authority to supervise, control, and correct communications by Federal officers and employees with the Congress related to their official duties, including in cases where such communications would be unlawful or could reveal confidential information protected by executive privilege.
Certain provisions (such as Division F, section 7064; and Division G, section 418) prohibit the use of funds to deny an Inspector General access to agency records or documents. I will construe these, and similar provisions, consistent with my authority to control the dissemination of information protected by executive privilege.
Certain provisions prohibit the use of funds to recommend certain legislation to the Congress (Division B, section 715), or require recommendations of certain legislation to the Congress (Division A, section 537). Because the Constitution gives the President the authority to recommend “such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient”, my Administration will continue the practice of treating provisions like these as advisory and non-binding.
Numerous provisions purport, in certain circumstances, to condition the authority of officers to spend or reallocate funds on the approval of congressional committees (Division B, sections 702, 706, and 716(a), (b); Division E, sections 403 and 409; Division G, sections 188, 405, and 406). These are impermissible forms of congressional aggrandizement in the execution of the laws other than by the enactment of statutes. My Administration will make appropriate efforts to notify the relevant committees before taking the specified actions and will accord the recommendations of such committees all appropriate and serious consideration, but it will not treat spending decisions as dependent on the approval of congressional committees.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...-president-28/

[Swordsmyth]

I wonder how many bases we can fit on a 1 dimensional line. Probably a lot!

Bases may be built anywhere in the United States.