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Thread: Rep. Ilhan Omar vs. Elliott Abrams

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    As entertaining as it might be, the neoconservative/MIC media is using it to turn Abrams into a saint that was attacked by a Muslim, communist, racist, anti-Semitic extremist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    As entertaining as it might be, the neoconservative/MIC media is using it to turn Abrams into a saint that was attacked by a Muslim, communist, racist, anti-Semitic extremist.
    It rather sucks that someone like that seems to be the only one giving that $#@!stain the treatment he deserves.
    "The Patriarch"

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    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
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    Although conspiracy theories about MAGA being fake frontgroup for zionist lobbies are grossly exagerrated, to give credit where due MAGA is standing against alleged anti-semitism by this rookie congresswoman and is calling for her resignation.


    Rep. Omar fires back after Trump calls for her resignation: 'You have trafficked in hate your whole life'


    By Kate Sullivan and Devan Cole, CNN
    Wed February 13, 2019

    Washington (CNN)Rep. Ilhan Omar on Wednesday rejected President Donald Trump's call for her to resign after she suggested US support of Israel is motivated by money, charging that the President is hypocritical given his history of race-baiting statements.


    "You have trafficked in hate your whole life—against Jews, Muslims, Indigenous, immigrants, black people and more. I learned from people impacted by my words. When will you?" Omar, a Minnesota Democrat, wrote in a tweet.
    Omar apologized on Monday after she ignited a firestorm with her tweets suggesting US support of Israel is motivated by money. The messages -- she suggested support of Israel is driven specifically by donations from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a prominent pro-Israel lobby group -- were condemned by lawmakers on both sides of the aisle as anti-Semitic.
    On Tuesday, Trump called on her to resign, saying during a Cabinet meeting that "anti-Semitism has no place in the United States Congress."

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/12/polit...ism/index.html






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    Be interesting to see how other leadership of America-First GOP-Adelson responds to this latest alleged hate speech scandal, it has taken some credibility hits lately following attacks from hard right conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It rather sucks that someone like that seems to be the only one giving that $#@!stain the treatment he deserves.
    Au Contraire: it was highly obvious that someone "like that" is the only type of someone with the

    1. Loyalty to her people
    2. Balls

    that could ever be expected to do such a thing. To go on such a beautiful rampage.

    The CHAD Ilhan. May she live forever. Bring Glory to Allah.
    My Gen Z, Right or Wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It rather sucks that someone like that seems to be the only one giving that $#@!stain the treatment he deserves.
    Yep. Nothing like using the most despicable people you can find to attack the most despicable people on the other team of government. I'm sure these little stunts are just what TPTB needs to get the sheep to defend despicability in one form or the other.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    "The Patriarch"

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is a lie.
    @Brian4Liberty, devil keeps spreading this lie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
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    You should remember that.

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    Here is a story about the exchange on Special Neoconservative Report with Bret Baier.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhDCUr2pAjg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    [redacted]
    Origanalist,
    you are spreading 'fected memes
    for the wrongest of the teams.
    You din't know
    So it's cool, my bro
    But Poser-biec Jack
    Does not have your back

    Who cares if she married her brother? Is cheating Jack the morality police now? No one cares. Why did he choose to attack and try to undermine her at this particular beautiful moment in time?

    You know why.
    So do I.

    Ilhan has declared Holy Jihad against my enemies.
    I side with Ilhan.
    We all side with Ilhan.

    Ave Ilhanator, morituri te salutant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    defend despicability in one form or the other.
    Shut it. You and your fat Islamaphophia-filled mouth can take a big fat hike to Dome A.

    Hail Allah.

    Hail Ilhan.

    Hail the Despicables.

    I stand with thee.
    You head scarf is lovely.
    All haters can go jump a cliff.
    My Gen Z, Right or Wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H View Post
    Shut it. You and your fat Islamaphophia-filled mouth can take a big fat hike to Dome A.

    Hail Allah.

    Hail Ilhan.

    Hail the Despicables.

    I stand with thee.
    You head scarf is lovely.
    All haters can go jump a cliff.
    Satyrs do exist!
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

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    A head scarf is nothing a full face veil is another.

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    Well, that put me in tailspin...whom I supposed to dislike here?

    Wish "our" side had the courage of her convictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, that put me in tailspin...whom I supposed to dislike here?
    There is no contest, AF.

    You know that.

    Wish "our" side had the courage of her convictions.
    She is on our side.

    Just as Tulsi Gabbard is.

    She is welcome at my Thanksgiving Dinner any time. She is, as of this week, my honorary sister. And I would still marry her.
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    https://twitter.com/hilaryagro/statu...04575125307392


    hmmm... this won't work for me aka itunes... srry maybe there's another source?? dunno.
    Last edited by goldenequity; 02-14-2019 at 01:43 PM.

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    Isn't it great when the foreign born representative that has made it a goal to attack America and the founding principles of this country, is also the only person to step up and stand up for Americans in the literal face of corrupt evil? Where are all of the so called tough GOPers that speak all day about the dangers of expansive big government, yet don't have 1/1000th the courage to do what she did yesterday? Why did a woman of Islamic faith do more to stand up for Americans that have next to no voice, than any of these so called American values oriented serving congressmen and senators? Between that and calling out the Israeli lobby just a few days ago, she has bigger balls than any serving congressmen and senator with the exception of Rand, despite her SJWing anti-liberty nonsense.

    You know this is how corrupted we are to the core and that our supposed leaders of liberty in both wings of the legislative body have zero gall and have been all bought and paid for. Omar proved this in no more than 5 minutes of speaking time. If we still had a functionally working legislative branch of government, every one of these corrupt cronies that are giving testimony would be grilled at least this hard every single day. Instead we get day after day of soft ball pre-arranged questioning. If some of these younger congressmen and senators want to make a name for themselves, take note.

    Pathetic and telling.



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    I sincerely detest Abrams. True evil on display.
    ClydeCoulter on the Liberty Movement:
    Yeah, they'll argue over roads and religion, but there are certain themes that bind, among those are freedom and the search for truth and justice.

    Loyalists gonna loyal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    Isn't it great when the foreign born representative that has made it a goal to attack America and the founding principles of this country, is also the only person to step up and stand up for Americans in the literal face of corrupt evil? Where are all of the so called tough GOPers that speak all day about the dangers of expansive big government, yet don't have 1/1000th the courage to do what she did yesterday? Why did a woman of Islamic faith do more to stand up for Americans that have next to no voice, than any of these so called American values oriented serving congressmen and senators? Between that and calling out the Israeli lobby just a few days ago, she has bigger balls than any serving congressmen and senator with the exception of Rand, despite her SJWing anti-liberty nonsense.

    You know this is how corrupted we are to the core and that our supposed leaders of liberty in both wings of the legislative body have zero gall and have been all bought and paid for. Omar proved this in no more than 5 minutes of speaking time. If we still had a functionally working legislative branch of government, every one of these corrupt cronies that are giving testimony would be grilled at least this hard every single day. Instead we get day after day of soft ball pre-arranged questioning. If some of these younger congressmen and senators want to make a name for themselves, take note.

    Pathetic and telling.
    +rep

    This needs to be repped by others as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Well, that put me in tailspin...whom I supposed to dislike here?

    Wish "our" side had the courage of her convictions.
    I hate everybody involved. That was easy.
    *******

    I didn't start out thinking that anti-vax people were fools or impervious to reason, it's from my experience here that I now think that.
    - AmyPi 2014 (RIP)

    Anti-vaxxers, responsible for a 30 percent uptick in totally preventable diseases in the world, have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be considered civilized members of society. If they refuse to listen to a century of scientific studies confirming time and time again that vaccination is an unquestionable good for humanity, then it's time for us to start treating anti-vaxxers as what they are: dangerous and worthy of shame and condemnation. If we can't convince anti-vaxxers to change their minds, we must attach enough social stigma to the delusion that agnostics cease to join them.

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    1. Her comment about AIPAC was completely reasonable. And I didn't see anything remotely offensive or anti-Semetic about it.

    2. She is a $#@!stain on humanity and should be deported.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It rather sucks that someone like that seems to be the only one giving that $#@!stain the treatment he deserves.
    True, but she's incredibly dumb and has trouble reading her prepared statements. Whoever wrote her speech did not envision the possibility of Abrams responding "No" before she declared "I will take it as yes". Her timing was totally off and the smirking was out of place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    True, but she's incredibly dumb and has trouble reading her prepared statements. Whoever wrote her speech did not envision the possibility of Abrams responding "No" before she declared "I will take it as yes". Her timing was totally off and the smirking was out of place.
    All part of the charm, man.

    I loved every second.
    My Gen Z, Right or Wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    It rather sucks that someone like that seems to be the only one giving that $#@!stain the treatment he deserves.
    Yes, why does it take a leftist Democrat to have the balls to smack down an evil lying murderous neocon pit fiend?

    Trump's latest swamp demon.


    Very enjoyable to watch Abrams squirm and pout “It was an attack! It was an attack!” ...“It is not right that members of this Committee can attack a witness" .
    Last edited by AZJoe; 03-23-2019 at 11:02 AM.
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    Elliott Abrams Smacked Down In Front Of Everybody

    Elliott Abrams is a monster. The atrocities that he has facilitated, covered up and whitewashed in Panama, El Salvador, Gaza, Guatemala, Nicaragua and Iraq are utterly unforgivable, and the fact that he has been appointed as special envoy to Venezuela by the Trump administration completely invalidates the US government’s Venezuela narrative all by itself. Even without the blatant lies, the known oil agendas, the CIA ops, the mounting evidence of US arms smuggling to right-wing militias, and America’s extensive history of utterly disastrous regime change interventionism, the fact that this administration would appoint such a ghoulish individual to spearhead its Venezuela interventionism alone is enough to show you that the US government has nothing but malevolent intentions for that nation.

    So it was nice to see someone in that government calling him what he is right to his face in front of everybody. …

    In 1991, you pleaded guilty to two counts of withholding information from Congress regarding your involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, for which you were later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush,” Omar accurately stated. “I fail to understand why members of this committee, or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful.” …

    “On February 8th, 1982, you testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about US foreign policy in El Salvador. In that hearing, you dismissed as communist propaganda a report about the massacre of El Mozote of which more than 800 civilians, including children as young as two years old, were brutally murdered by U.S.-trained troops. During that massacre, some of those troops bragged about raping 12 year-old girls before they killed them. You later said that the U.S. policy in El Salvador was a ‘fabulous achievement.’ Yes or no, do you still think so?” … “Yes or no, do you think that massacre was a fabulous achievement that happened under our watch?” Omar asked.

    “That is a ridiculous question and I will not respond to it, no,” Abrams replied. “I’m sorry Mr. Chairman, I am not going to respond to that kind of personal attack which is not a question.”

    “I will take that as a yes,” Omar said. “Yes or no, would you support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide if you believe they were serving US interests as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?”
    “I’m not going to respond to that question,” Abrams again answered. “I’m sorry, I don’t think this entire line of questioning is meant to be real questions, and so I will not reply.” …

    There is no legitimate reason for Elliott Abrams to ever find himself before a group of people who are ostensibly concerned with accountability and responsibility without being asked such questions. But that didn’t stop all the world’s worst people from crawling out of the woodwork to his defense. …

    This is the bipartisan establishment orthodoxy that is guiding … foreign policy, America. One which claims Elliott Abrams is a saint, which claims criticism of US warmongering is antisemitic, and which throws a bold Somali-American woman under the bus for speaking the truth …

    US warmongering is the most aggressively protected part of the establishment narrative matrix, because US warmongering is the glue that holds the unipolar empire together. … The difficulty for our rulers, though, is that warmongering is a very difficult thing to paint a pretty picture of, especially with our newfound ability to quickly share ideas and information around the globe. I mean, look at Elliott Abrams. Seriously, just watch him talk. That demonic grimace is the prettiest face they could find to put on their Venezuela agenda. I find that very encouraging.

    The reason they work so hard to manufacture our consent for warmongering agendas is because they need that consent. They wouldn’t propagandize us so aggressively if they didn’t need us all trusting them and believing their stories, so the best way to fight establishment warmongering is to circulate disbelief in their stories. Whenever you see someone like Ilhan Omar drawing attention to the gaping plot holes in agendas like regime change interventionism in Venezuela, go ahead and help draw attention to it. … The weakest link in this chain is the propaganda. Attack there.
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