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    Activists Teaching Judges To Yank Kids From Parents Who Won’t Transgender

    LGBT Activists Teaching Judges To Yank Kids From Parents Who Won’t Transgender Them

    Documents obtained from Rhode Island Family Court must concern any person who questions whether it's a good idea to chemically and surgically mutilate children.


    On Thursday, the Health and Human Services committee of the South Dakota House killed a bill that would have protected the right of parents to refuse to consent to medical or psychological treatment for a child suffering from gender dysphoria if the treatment “would induce, confirm, or promote the child’s belief that the child’s sex or gender identity is different from the child’s sex presented at birth.” Proposed House Bill 1205 also provided that “no public authority or official of this state may take any adverse action against a parent for exercising this right.”

    That such a simple affirmation of parental rights could not clear a committee in this solidly red state should terrify parents, as it lays bare transgender activists’ plan: use the government to force parents to affirm a false sex for their child, agree to hormone blockers, and accept a transition to their son or daughter’s preferred gender. If parents refuse? Removal of the child from the family, due to alleged medical neglect.

    We are already seeing the first two waves of this strategy, according to Dr. Michelle Cretella, executive director of the American College of Pediatricians. The first wave began in 2016 in the divorce and child custody setting, Cretella explained.

    “I first began hearing from distraught parents in this situation in 2016 and in 2017, I heard from seven families in as many different states in this situation. In all but one case the child was a 15 year-old girl who never had any sexual identity confusion prior to her parent’s divorce,” Cretella said. “The other case involved 4-year-old triplet boys whose mother desperately wanted a girl. The mother was a psychologist herself and had cross-dressed one of the boys for two years, insisting that it was his idea. In each of the seven cases the guardian ad litems and judges removed the right to medical consent and/or custody from the parent who objected to transition with puberty blockers and hormones.”
    The Second Wave

    We have since moved on to the second wave, Cretella told The Federalist. “The second wave is going on now, with emergency room staff, therapists, or doctors reporting parents to Child Protective Services who refuse to affirm their child’s false gender.”

    More recently, Cretella explains, she has heard from two sets of parents who were accused of being “abusive parents” for refusing to consent to hormone treatments for their teen children. In one case, the parents sought treatment for their son’s suicidal depression. Their son was adopted out of an abusive family, had a long history of depression and anxiety, had been in therapy in the past, was on medications, and never had any sign of gender dysphoria.

    Nevertheless, the emergency room physician at the children’s hospital, after interviewing him alone, diagnosed him as “definitely transgender because he insists that he is and that [the parents’] lack of acceptance is causing his suicidal depression. He should be started on puberty blockers and estrogen to transition.”

    This was the first time the 14-year-old boy had ever said such a thing, Cretella noted, yet from this one ER visit, his parents had to fight with the children’s hospital for months against allegations of being “abusive and unsupportive” parents. The family finally found a therapist who helped them set boundaries with their son, and his complaints of feeling trapped in the wrong body have stopped. Even with this outcome, attorneys told the parents they could not sue because experts would side with the ER physician, who was following the “standard of care” guidelines.

    The third wave will be here soon, according to Cretella, when schools trigger investigations into parents of children suffering from gender dysphoria, by reporting children “afraid to come out to their parents as their authentic selves.” We can see this wave forming from the multitude of school protocols in the news, such as allowing students from K-12 to choose their gender identity.

    The end goal is the same, Cretella said: “removal of a child based on accusations of medical neglect.”
    FOIA Documents Provide Evidence

    Documents recently obtained from the Rhode Island Family Court in response to a FOIA request give credence to Cretella’s warning. In late 2015—the year before Cretalla first began receiving calls from concerned parents—the Rhode Island Family Court’s Annual Judicial Conference focused on transgendered children. The lead presenter at the judicial conference was Dr. Michelle Forcier.

    Forcier “is considered an expert on transgender, ***** and questioning youth” and is an associate professor of pediatrics at the Brown University Alpert Medical School. Forcier spoke to attendees at the judicial conference—dozens of state employees, including Court Appointed Special Advocates (CASA) workers, employees of the Department of Children, Youth, and Families (DCYF), and judges—for nearly an hour and a half.

    The Rhode Island deputy legal counsel who responded to the FOIA request confirmed that no audio or video recording exists of the conference or of Forcier’s presentation on transgender youth. When asked about the focus of Forcier’s presentation, Judge Sandra Lanni, who organized the conference at the request of the now-retired chief judge of the Rhode Island Family Court, said through a spokesman that “I thought of it as: How do we as judges understand these kids?”

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    Forcier “is considered an expert on transgender, ***** and questioning youth” and is an associate professor of pediatrics at the Brown University Alpert Medical School. Forcier spoke to attendees at the judicial conference—dozens of state employees, including Court Appointed Special Advocates (CASA) workers, employees of the Department of Children, Youth, and Families (DCYF), and judges—for nearly an hour and a half.
    This woman is pure cancer.

    Michelle Forcier, MD, MPH

    Faculty

    Michelle Forcier is an Associate Professor of Pediatrics and Assistant Dean of Admissions at the Brown University Alpert Medical School. She received her medical degree from the University of Connecticut School of Medicine, Pediatric residency at University of Utah, obtained a Master’s in Public Health and completed a Robert Wood Johnson Clinical Scholars fellowship and Preventive Medicine residency at the University of North Carolina. She has been providing adolescent health services, specializing in sexual health care since 1997.

    Her professional background has focused on sexual health issues including: lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, ***** and questioning youth with a focus on gender nonconforming youth, puberty blockers and hormones; contraception and advanced family planning; pediatric and adolescent gynecology; and transition medicine for older youth with complex medical problems. She has been involved in medical education and training at Brown University, Northwestern University and University of North Carolina Chapel Hill for over 15 years.


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    Am I crazy or is this "woman" a man?
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    Lol. How did I know she's a crazy cat non-binary?

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    This woman is pure cancer.





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    This will not stop until they force everyone to participate in abominations, we must separate before we are forced to kill or die.

    We will probably be forced to kill or die if we try to separate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This woman is pure cancer.
    Reported for assuming this person might be a woman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Am I crazy or is this "woman" a man?
    Reported for assuming this person might be a man who might be a woman ... or might be a woman who might be man ... or ... something ...

    Anyway, you need to get right with God the Rhode Island Family Court, comrade ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post


    This will not stop until they force everyone to participate in abominations, we must separate before we are forced to kill or die.

    We will probably be forced to kill or die if we try to separate.
    Unlikely. Long term, even if this continues, we will be the ones whose children can have their own children. They cant. Period.

    Idiot activists like this twists facts to suit their ideas, not considering ideas to suit the facts. And the facts are that straight people have natural children. Thus, advantage us. Second thusly, the intent is now to destroy the Nuclear Family. They want Govt to be your new family, which is a tactic of Totalitarian Authoritarian Technocracy Regimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Reported for assuming this person might be a woman.



    Reported for assuming this person might be a man who might be a woman ... or might be a woman who might be man ... or ... something ...

    Anyway, you need to get right with God the Rhode Island Family Court, comrade ...
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    There is no doubt that some of these parents and doctors are not just “accepting” some behaviors of these kids. They are encouraging and guiding them, leading them into physical modification via drugs and surgery. It should be questioned as to whether this physical modification of children is child endangerment.

    There is a show on TV called “I am Jazz” about a trans-girl. Apparently it has been on for several years (5?), and follows this trans child and her family. It’s another reality show like so many others. It’s clear that this show is mostly about an opportunity for all of them to be on TV, especially the mother.

    The mother encourages and guides the kid, who is now over 18, but clearly too immature for the decisions being made. For example, in the first show, the parents are discussed whether to have “bottom” surgery on their teenager. The kid never asked for that surgery. A doctor asks the kid about it, and she says she isn’t sure, and is kind of used to how she is. Obviously the mother and the doctors pushed the kid towards this surgery for years, and after she turned 18, they did the surgery. Multiple difficult surgeries with ugly complications.

    Would she have chosen this surgery without the encouragement of her mother and the doctors? Maybe, maybe not. As immature as the kid is about the issues, a responsible medical system would not have performed the surgery until a later age, when the person could make a mature and informed choice on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There is no doubt that some of these parents and doctors are not just “accepting” some behaviors of these kids. They are encouraging and guiding them, leading them into physical modification via drugs and surgery. It should be questioned as to whether this physical modification of children is child endangerment.

    There is a show on TV called “I am Jazz” about a trans-girl. Apparently it has been on for several years (5?), and follows this trans child and her family. It’s another reality show like so many others. It’s clear that this show is mostly about an opportunity for all of them to be on TV, especially the mother.

    The mother encourages and guides the kid, who is now over 18, but clearly too immature for the decisions being made. For example, in the first show, the parents are discussed whether to have “bottom” surgery on their teenager. The kid never asked for that surgery. A doctor asks the kid about it, and she says she isn’t sure, and is kind of used to how she is. Obviously the mother and the doctors pushed the kid towards this surgery for years, and after she turned 18, they did the surgery. Multiple difficult surgeries with ugly complications.

    Would she have chosen this surgery without the encouragement of her mother and the doctors? Maybe, maybe not. As immature as the kid is about the issues, a responsible medical system would not have performed the surgery until a later age, when the person could make a mature and informed choice on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    “You need fake dick surgery if you want to be on tv! How can you be on tv if you don’t get fake dick surgery??”
    It’s a way to get on TV today. May not work in the future.

    Hopefully my terminology is correct. Trans-girl is a boy who identifies and appears as a girl. So the surgery was penis removal. Apparently the fake vagina is quite fake too. It seems like the kid was not fully informed of the ramifications and complications of the surgeries.

    The show is trying to push the idea that once she has full surgery, she will be a regular girl, and then she can date regular guys. Reality will crash down hard on that fantasy, no matter how much they try to condition and brainwash the population. Attempting to fool regular guys will always have negative results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    There is no doubt that some of these parents and doctors are not just “accepting” some behaviors of these kids. They are encouraging and guiding them, leading them into physical modification via drugs and surgery. It should be questioned as to whether this physical modification of children is child endangerment.

    There is a show on TV called “I am Jazz” about a trans-girl. Apparently it has been on for several years (5?), and follows this trans child and her family. It’s another reality show like so many others. It’s clear that this show is mostly about an opportunity for all of them to be on TV, especially the mother.

    The mother encourages and guides the kid, who is now over 18, but clearly too immature for the decisions being made. For example, in the first show, the parents are discussed whether to have “bottom” surgery on their teenager. The kid never asked for that surgery. A doctor asks the kid about it, and she says she isn’t sure, and is kind of used to how she is. Obviously the mother and the doctors pushed the kid towards this surgery for years, and after she turned 18, they did the surgery. Multiple difficult surgeries with ugly complications.

    Would she have chosen this surgery without the encouragement of her mother and the doctors? Maybe, maybe not. As immature as the kid is about the issues, a responsible medical system would not have performed the surgery until a later age, when the person could make a mature and informed choice on their own.
    This crap is 99% brought on by sick adults who don't care about anything but how "woke" they look as parents or how enlightened they appear as professionals. Not one $#@! is given about the lives they are destroying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Unlikely. Long term, even if this continues, we will be the ones whose children can have their own children. They cant. Period.

    Idiot activists like this twists facts to suit their ideas, not considering ideas to suit the facts. And the facts are that straight people have natural children. Thus, advantage us. Second thusly, the intent is now to destroy the Nuclear Family. They want Govt to be your new family, which is a tactic of Totalitarian Authoritarian Technocracy Regimes.
    It is because they don't have children of their own that their attempts to steal ours will increase until we separate or have a war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It is because they don't have children of their own that their attempts to steal ours will increase until we separate or have a war.
    Thats true. If they do manage to break up the very idea of Family, then they can use the children of normal people against their parents. Well, theres a thousand ways this could go too. If Google gets its way and successfully creates Robot AI Soldiers, we have much bigger problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    If Google gets its way and successfully creates Robot AI Soldiers, we have much bigger problems.
    I wouldn't worry about that until computer games develop decent AI without giving it unfair advantages to make up for its inhuman stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I wouldn't worry about that until computer games develop decent AI without giving it unfair advantages to make up for its inhuman stupidity.
    Very true. But on AI, one major problem is the Elites will use the AI to control the rest of humanity more efficiently than has been done in previous forms of slavery. Humans owning humans, AI will just be the middle men.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Vaccine induced perversion.
    Its Bizarro World. Everything we are told is lies is actually truth, and everything that we are told is good is bad. What ever they tell you, just think the opposite and youre more likely to interpret things correctly!
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Its Bizarro World. Everything we are told is lies is actually truth, and everything that we are told is good is bad. What ever they tell you, just think the opposite and youre more likely to interpret things correctly!
    That's how I see it. How do you think I found RPF?



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