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    Dual Citzenship and Congress

    Does the constitution permit someone who has a citizenship in a foreign country to serve in congress? Is ones foreign citizenship publicly available?
    A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both

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    This issue should be pushed into the mainstream. Dual citizens should not be able to serve in any branch of the Federal or State governments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    This issue should be pushed into the mainstream. Dual citizens should not be able to serve in any branch of the Federal or State governments.
    I know there's rules about officership in the Military, but I wonder why the same principles don't apply to congress.
    A society that places equality before freedom with get neither; A society that places freedom before equality will yield high degrees of both

    Make a move and plead the 5th because you can't plead the 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    This issue should be pushed into the mainstream. Dual citizens should not be able to serve in any branch of the Federal or State governments.
    I agree 100%.

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    Must be 25 , citizen of US for seven years prior to election day , a resident of the state representing . Cannot have taken part in the rebellion or aided the enemy .
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    I know there's rules about officership in the Military, but I wonder why the same principles don't apply to congress.




    LOL a lot of things don't apply.

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    Well most of our politicians have dual citizenship with Israel.
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    We should outlaw dual citizenship like many other countries do, when you accept our citizenship you should have to renounce all others.

    Failing that we need a Constitutional Amendment to bar dual citizens from any government office or job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumba of Liberty View Post
    This issue should be pushed into the mainstream. Dual citizens should not be able to serve in any branch of the Federal or State governments.
    Dual citizenship should not be allowed at all. Anyone with another citizenship clearly hates America and should be treated as the traitors that they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We should outlaw dual citizenship like many other countries do, when you accept our citizenship you should have to renounce all others.
    And if an American citizen accepts another country's citizenship, that person should be deported immediately to their new country since they hate America so much.
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    If we can't eliminate dual citizenship, maybe we can introduce the concept of Double citizenship. E.g., I am a Double American citizen. Only eligible for people born in America who's parents were born in America to parents who were born in America.

    And only people who hold double/triple American citizenship could hold office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    And if an American citizen accepts another country's citizenship, that person should be deported immediately to their new country since they hate America so much.
    They should be given the option to renounce one citizenship or the other and if they give up American citizenship then they should be given a limited amount of time to apply for legal residence, if they don't apply or don't qualify then they should be deported if they don't leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If we can't eliminate dual citizenship, maybe we can introduce the concept of Double citizenship. E.g., I am a Double American citizen. Only eligible for people born in America who's parents were born in America to parents who were born in America.

    And only people who hold double/triple American citizenship could hold office.
    The founders did that with the office of President, perhaps they should have done so for more offices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They should be given the option to renounce one citizenship or the other and if they give up American citizenship then they should be given a limited amount of time to apply for legal residence, if they don't apply or don't qualify then they should be deported if they don't leave.
    Yes, because if an American who certainly isn't me for example acquired a EU passport so they could have the right to work in a place like, lets say Switzerland, it's clearly a red flag that this person is a socialist big government foreign traitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Dual citizenship should not be allowed at all. Anyone with another citizenship clearly hates America and should be treated as the traitors that they are.
    They don't necessarily hate America but different countries have different interests and those who may put the interests of another country before America should not hold positions in the American government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Yes, because if an American who certainly isn't me for example acquired a EU passport so they could have the right to work in a place like, lets say Switzerland, it's clearly a red flag that this person is a socialist big government foreign traitor.
    If you acquired EU citizenship in order to obtain that passport then you certainly should not be trusted with a position in the American government.
    If the EU won't let you work in the EU without EU citizenship then that is their problem.

    No man can serve two masters.
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    If you acquired EU citizenship in order to obtain that passport then you certainly should not be trusted with a position in the American government.
    I would no longer be eligible to work in the TSA??!?!?!? Oh no!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No man can serve two masters.
    I disagree, we seem to be serving many hundreds already
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Well most of our politicians have dual citizenship with Israel.
    Link?

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    What difference would it make? Is John McCain. John Bolton, Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump, Nancy Pelosi etc etc dual citizens? Trump was on video saying how he would support Israel 1000% and gets a whole bunch of single citizen, patriotic Americans to vote for him. The constitution cannot save the American voters from voting for the Israeli agent.

    We all know who these double agents are and it makes very little difference to the voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    What difference would it make? Is John McCain. John Bolton, Lindsey Graham, Donald Trump, Nancy Pelosi etc etc dual citizens? Trump was on video saying how he would support Israel 1000% and gets a whole bunch of single citizen, patriotic Americans to vote for him. The constitution cannot save the American voters from voting for the Israeli agent.

    We all know who these double agents are and it makes very little difference to the voters.
    Every little bit helps.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Every little bit helps.

    Little drops of water and little grains of sand make the mighty ocean and the mighty land.
    I think its a red herring, I don't think the issue with dual citizenship is all its cracked up to be, the vast majority of people in congress are just good ole boys Americans but that doesn't stop them from virtually being 100% super pro Israel. Or maybe I think this way because I am a dual citizen
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I think its a red herring, I don't think the issue with dual citizenship is all its cracked up to be, the vast majority of people in congress are just good ole boys Americans but that doesn't stop them from virtually being 100% super pro Israel. Or maybe I think this way because I am a dual citizen
    Not everyone who has dual citizenship is a spy secretly working against America, but most are.
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    I'm sure illegal's vote so why can't foreigners make our laws?
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    My comment from another thread on the subject:

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    I don't live in a lot of places. For example, I don't live in Azerbaijan. Nor do I live in Connecticut. So any "public official" or "elected representative" in Connecticut is just as much a "dual-citizenship foreigner" to me regardless of whether his forebears came over on the Mayflower or he (or his forebears) came from Azerbaijan.

    IOW: As far as I'm concerned, Congress is composed of 532 foreigners ... (and I'm not so sure about the other three, either ...)
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    Thanks for the link.
    Americans need to know, this is not something I would list under 'right to privacy' .
    I wonder why this is not a prominent subject.....rhetorical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    My comment from another thread on the subject:
    People in Connecticut have sworn and represent the same constitution and flag as you do(assuming you're american). An Azerbaijanian does not.
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    According to the US Constitution, all citizens have dual citizenship- that of the country and of the state they live in.

    From the Fourteenth Amendment: https://www.jurist.org/commentary/20...-constitution/

    "[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside",


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    I would like to see this enacted just for the dramatic reactions that would ensue from all the anti-semites when they see that their belief that every Jew in Congress holds Israeli citizenship turns out to be a myth. I imagine that they would continue to believe that they do still hold Israeli citizenship, and would chalk up the failure to report this to some kind of conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    People in Connecticut have sworn and represent the same constitution and flag as you do (assuming you're american).
    I am what is commonly referred to as an "American" (and so were my forebears going back at least several generations, so far as I know) - but I haven't "sworn and represent[ed]" to or for any such things, so I'm not sure what you're getting at when you say "as you do (assuming you're [A]merican)".

    Quote Originally Posted by dillo View Post
    An Azerbaijanian does not.
    He does if he becomes an "American" citizen ("dually" or otherwise) and then becomes a "public official" or "elected representative" in Connecticut (which is exactly the condition I specified in my remarks).

    And if some "Mayflower" Connecticutter thinks he has any right to dictate to me or mine, even though he lives nowhere near me and is in no way a part of my home or community, then he can go pound the same sand as the Azerbaijani Connecticutter can - and I don't give a damn what flag or document either one of them cares to fetishize. They're both foreign interlopers as far as I'm concerned, and they should just butt the hell out of my business (as I should do for them and others in Connecticut).
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