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  1. #361
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Putting words in my mouth again?

    OK. We'll bite. We just can't resist your twisted lines of so-called 'reasoning'. Makes a roller coaster look like tangent track.

    Do tell us how you figure I made a statement I did not make.
    He can read the minds of millions of people, why do you think he wouldn't also be able to read yours?
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  3. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    He can read the minds of millions of people, why do you think he wouldn't also be able to read yours?
    Simple. I can read my mind, and I didn't even think about that stuff he said I said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  4. #363
    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    Have you ever considered that Socialism is a lateral variant of Feudalism? Perhaps it is the primary way the feudal stage is experienced in civilizations that reached that (pre-free market) stage post-industrial revolution? So perhaps it would have been better to let them have what they voted for, and not punished them further with military coups, drug wars-and the drug Lords thus anointed (big L, lotsa power).

    Running through it in my head, what characterized a feudal society? Distinct and severe class stratifications, parallel legal codes, being 'born' to the land and your occupation (thus getting what you need and contributing what you are able). Seems to me China and Soviet Russia fit rather fit this bill. And so do 'we' to an alarming extent--particularly regarding parallel legal codes.
    I don't support foreign intervention but I also don't support letting people who are behind the learning curve (as you suggest) come and drag us back into the dark ages.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  5. #364
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Putting words in my mouth again?

    OK. We'll bite. We just can't resist your twisted lines of so-called 'reasoning'. Makes a roller coaster look like tangent track.

    Do tell us how you figure I made a statement I did not make.

    Let's have it. Make your case for putting your words in my mouth and take your medicine.
    ...
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    totalitarians seldom give them another chance to vote.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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  6. #365
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ...
    In other words, there was no reason at all for you to put your words in my mouth. You just felt like doing it, even though it's an $#@! maneuver.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  7. #366
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    In other words, there was no reason at all for you to put your words in my mouth. You just felt like doing it, even though it's an $#@! maneuver.
    Maybe his shift is over for the evening. He'll surely be back tomorrow to continue his awesome mind reading skills, or else bury another thread where he's been called out. He's like an arsonist, you know. He'll just keep burning this place down, one thread at a time. When genuine Ron Paul supporters put the fire out or he runs out of fuel, he'll just move on to the next thread.
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  8. #367
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Maybe his shift is over for the evening. He'll surely be back tomorrow to continue his awesome mind reading skills, or else bury another thread where he's been called out. He's like an arsonist, you know. He'll just keep burning this place down, one thread at a time. When genuine Ron Paul supporters put the fire out or he runs out of fuel, he'll just move on to the next thread.
    Pretty much.

    Amazing how often his behavior is best described in his own words, isn't it? Like his head is so far up his own ass, projection is all he can do. His foibles are all he can criticize, because all he can see is what he had for lunch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  9. #368
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Maybe his shift is over for the evening. He'll surely be back tomorrow to continue his awesome mind reading skills, or else bury another thread where he's been called out. He's like an arsonist, you know. He'll just keep burning this place down, one thread at a time. When genuine Ron Paul supporters put the fire out or he runs out of fuel, he'll just move on to the next thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Pretty much.

    Amazing how often his behavior is best described in his own words, isn't it? Like his head is so far up his own ass, projection is all he can do. His foibles are all he can criticize, because all he can see is what he had for lunch.
    LOL
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  11. #369
    My fellow Americans relieve me annually of ~1/2 of my income.

    ...this is okay, because the people who steal my money vote happen to have been born in the same jurisdiction.

    ...but we must stop the foreigners who wish to produce inexpensive produce.

    Western Civilization is, after all, defined by artificially expensive tomatoes...

  12. #370
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    My fellow Americans relieve me annually of ~1/2 of my income.

    ...this is okay, because the people who steal my money vote happen to have been born in the same jurisdiction.

    ...but we must stop the foreigners who wish to produce inexpensive produce.

    Western Civilization is, after all, defined by artificially expensive tomatoes...
    The foreigners will take 100% of your income and then your life.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  13. #371
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The foreigners will take 100% of your income and then your life.
    Or maybe that's something that nationalist demagogues tell the simpleminded in order to win votes.

    ...as they dramatically increase the size of government.

  14. #372
    The foreigners will take 100% of your income and then your life.
    Wow, another amazing mind reading feat!

    I would bet I have had more to do with them than you, I used to live in an area with lots of them.
    And yet you lived to tell about it? So immigrants didn't take your life, after all?
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  15. #373
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Or maybe that's something that nationalist demagogues tell the simpleminded in order to win votes.

    ...as they dramatically increase the size of government.
    It's what happens every time in history when a hostile foreign culture overruns a native population and every time communists take over completely.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  16. #374
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Or maybe that's something that nationalist demagogues tell the simpleminded in order to win votes.

    ...as they dramatically increase the size of government.

    To the point where THEY can take 100% or our incomes and then our lives. So gee, whom do I fear? Poor ignorant peasants that just want a better life for themselves and their families? Or the well-educated guys in suits with political power and no compunction whatever against using it?

    Tough choice.
    Chris

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  17. #375
    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    Wow, another amazing mind reading feat!
    Read some history.



    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    And yet you lived to tell about it? So immigrants didn't take your life, after all?
    They hadn't taken over and imposed communism yet.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  18. #376
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    To the point where THEY can take 100% or our incomes and then our lives. So gee, whom do I fear? Poor ignorant peasants that just want a better life for themselves and their families? Or the well-educated guys in suits with political power and no compunction whatever against using it?

    Tough choice.
    We should probably duct tape our windows closed, grab a Spanish-English dictionary, and hide under the bed.

    ...and re-elect Trump, of course.



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  20. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    To the point where THEY can take 100% or our incomes and then our lives.
    LOL, border and immigration control will not do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    So gee, whom do I fear? Poor ignorant peasants that just want a better life for themselves and their families? Or the well-educated guys in suits with political power and no compunction whatever against using it?

    Tough choice.
    Those "poor ignorant peasants" will elect the well-educated guys in suits with political power and no compunction whatever against using it because they offer them free stuff which is what the "poor ignorant peasants" come here for.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They hadn't taken over and imposed communism yet.
    Where did communism originate? Out of which culture?

    ...I ask the person who thinks (laughably) that "culture" determines everything.

  22. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Where did communism originate? Out of which culture?
    European culture, which is where the European linked latin-American countries got it from.
    I don't want excessive or illegal immigrants from Europe either.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    ...I ask the person who thinks culture determines everything.
    I have never said it determines everything
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    European culture, which is where the European linked latin-American countries got it from.
    I don't want excessive or illegal immigrants from Europe either.
    It did originate in Europe, among low-church proto-Protestants like the Taborites of Bohemia.

    This is in stark contrast to the Catholics (what religion are Mexicans...).

    Anyway, in this hemisphere, it is people of English stock, of rural New England, Yankees, who are responsible for communism.

    It isn't the beaners.

    If you must deport someone, focus on people north of the Hudson (excluding the Irish, as good Catholics).

    New England was settled was by the filth and refuse of England; our very own Australia.
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 02-12-2019 at 12:36 AM.

  24. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It did originate in Europe, among low-church proto-Protestants like the Taborites of Bohemia.

    This is in stark contrast to the Catholics (what religion are Mexicans...).

    Anyway, in this hemisphere, it is people of English stock, of rural New England, Yankees, who are responsible for communism.

    It isn't the beaners.

    If you must deport someone, focus on people north of the Hudson (excluding the Irish, as good Catholics).
    LOL

    What political persuasion is the Pope?

    The countries south of the border are all much more socialist/communist than the US and have been since the 1800's.
    Last edited by Swordsmyth; 02-12-2019 at 12:44 AM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  25. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    It did originate in Europe, among low-church proto-Protestants like the Taborites of Bohemia.

    This is in stark contrast to the Catholics (what religion are Mexicans...).

    Anyway, in this hemisphere, it is people of English stock, of rural New England, Yankees, who are responsible for communism.

    It isn't the beaners.

    If you must deport someone, focus on people north of the Hudson (excluding the Irish, as good Catholics).

    New England was settled was by the filth and refuse of England; our very own Australia.
    lol'd I did. Our very own Australia... you devil.

  26. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    What political persuasion is the Pope?

    Th countries south of the border are all much more socialist/communist than the US and have been since the 1800's.
    Yes, because thats the flavor feudalism takes in post-industrial/pre-freemarket civilizations.
    Last edited by bv3; 02-12-2019 at 12:45 AM.

  27. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    Yes, because thats the flavor feudalism takes in post-industrial/pre-freemarket civilizations.
    And?

    Why should we let people who are behind the times come here and drag us back into the dark ages?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  29. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And?

    Why should we let people who are behind the times come here and drag us back into the dark ages?
    I suppose you mean, "through franchise strip us of our dearly bought and held liberties." What $#@!in liberties?

  30. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    I suppose you mean, "through franchise strip us of our dearly bought and held liberties." What $#@!in liberties?
    They won't necessarily limit themselves to the electoral process and we have much more liberty than we will under a communist dictatorship.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  31. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL

    What political persuasion is the Pope?

    The countries south of the border are all much more socialist/communist than the US and have been since the 1800's.
    The Church certainly isn't what it used to be (when the Popes explicitly excommunicated communists [such as the WASPs who ruled the US]).

    And yet, the Mexicans et al are far more inclined toward Western Civilization than the average American, still.

    ...stop reading Breitbart and other retard-material and go talk to these people.

    They're employed, they go to mass every Sunday (if not more frequently), they stay married until they die.

    They are, ironically enough, everything the absolutely worthless "evangelical" lobby in the US wants: except they're Mexican.

    ...Personally, I don't much care about culture; but, for those who do, you are missing a tremendous opportunity.

    The immigrants (i.e. good Catholic Mexicans) aren't going to be raping and pillaging you; they're going to be your best political allies.

    ...or they could be, if you stopped calling them rapists and murderers every day.

  32. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They won't necessarily limit themselves to the electoral process and we have much more liberty than we will under a communist dictatorship.
    Yeah, with 25% of the world's prison population and counting! Don't be pleonastic, Communist dictatorship, unless you hold that not all 'communism' results in dictatorial governance. That may be a question of scale.

  33. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The Church certainly isn't what it used to be (when the Popes explicitly excommunicated communists [such as the WASPs who ruled the US]).

    And yet, the Mexicans et al are far more inclined toward Western Civilization than the average American, still.

    ...stop reading Breitbart and other retard-material and go talk to these people.

    They're employed, they go to mass every Sunday (if not more frequently), they stay married until they die.

    They are, ironically enough, everything the absolutely worthless "evangelical" lobby in the US wants: except they're Mexican.

    ...Personally, I don't much care about culture; but, for those who do, you are missing a tremendous opportunity.

    The immigrants (i.e. good Catholic Mexicans) aren't going to be raping and pillaging you; they're going to be your best political allies.

    ...or they could be, if you stopped calling them rapists and murderers every day.
    Except they are communists, they just elected a communist who is starting to turn Mexico into the next Venezuela.

    We have our own problems but letting in the barbarians will only make things worse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  34. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    Yeah, with 25% of the world's prison population and counting! Don't be pleonastic, Communist dictatorship, unless you hold that not all 'communism' results in dictatorial governance. That may be a question of scale.
    The people you want to let in vote for the people whose entire political platform is about taking away more of our liberty and redistributing wealth.
    They also openly encourage hatred for not just whites but anyone who opposes them politically, if they take power with the help of the invaders Mao's China will look like a picnic.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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