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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I'm not sure I follow?
    You mean like turn the country into sht to stop attracting an influx of illegals
    and ruin the country?
    Could you elaborate.....
    He needs to elaborate, he is the one who claims he can eliminate all incentives even though prosperity is the biggest incentive.
    Your suggestion would seem to be the only way he can do what he claims t o be able to do.....................
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  3. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You need a new playbook with more accurate definitions (assuming that being factual is actually a goal for you).

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberty
    And people aren't any of those things if other people are allowed to engage in tyranny.

    You have gone completely insane.

    There is and can be no such thing as the freedom to engage in tyranny.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  4. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    If you can't rape the willing than it's not rape if they are consenting to big government...
    I am not willing and I know many other people who aren't, we have a right to keep out those who want to rape us.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  5. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And people aren't any of those things if other people are allowed to engage in tyranny.

    You have gone completely insane.

    There is and can be no such thing as the freedom to engage in tyranny.
    Exactly. You want to repress people who do not think the same as you- therefore you want tyranny in the name of liberty which is a contradiction.


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  6. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Exactly. You want to repress people who do not think the same as you- therefore you want tyranny in the name of liberty which is a contradiction.
    Preventing people from engaging in tyranny is not and can not be tyranny.

    You have gone completely insane.

    There is and can be no such thing as the freedom to engage in tyranny.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  7. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Preventing people from engaging in tyranny is not and can not be tyranny.

    You have gone completely insane.

    There is and can be no such thing as the freedom to engage in tyranny.
    You are stuck in "repeat" mode again. Bot glitch?


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  8. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You are stuck in "repeat" mode again. Bot glitch?
    When you keep saying the same insane thing over and over you will get the same response over and over.


    @Bryan please read this exchange, Zippy is openly advocating against the mission of this site and in favor of tyranny while mocking us and claiming to advocate for freedom. (the "freedom" to engage in tyranny)

    Will you finally have him banned?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  9. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He needs to elaborate, he is the one who claims he can eliminate all incentives even though prosperity is the biggest incentive.
    Your suggestion would seem to be the only way he can do what he claims t o be able to do.....................
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I'm not sure I follow?
    You mean like turn the country into sht to stop attracting an influx of illegals
    and ruin the country?
    Could you elaborate.....
    The only way to get rid of all incentives is to either make America into Mexico or make Mexico more like America. So the idea is to make all the Democrats go to Mexico and vote for more government. Send them over to fix Mexico.



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  11. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He needs to elaborate, he is the one who claims he can eliminate all incentives even though prosperity is the biggest incentive.
    Your suggestion would seem to be the only way he can do what he claims t o be able to do.....................
    I guess I wasn't clear, I thought you understood my stance
    on illegals.
    By stating 'cut all incentives' I'm referring to the same
    rant I've posted here probably 5 or six times;

    Cut all incentives to ILLEGALS;
    Welfare
    licenses
    Sanctuary Cities
    Free med care
    Free Education
    Anchor Babies
    Chain Migration
    Amnesty
    DACA
    All freebies of any kind

    None of the above is enough to keep out the disease ridden rapists, murderers , extortionists,
    felons, thieves, terrorists etc, enhanced border security via a wall, and better, more effective
    border patrolling would help.

  12. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    You are stuck in "repeat" mode again. Bot glitch?
    Maybe there is a feedback loop, that can require lots of rewiring might as well just try noise cancellation

  13. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I guess I wasn't clear, I thought you understood my stance
    on illegals.
    By stating 'cut all incentives' I'm referring to the same
    rant I've posted here probably 5 or six times;

    Cut all incentives to ILLEGALS;
    Welfare
    licenses
    Sanctuary Cities
    Free med care
    Free Education
    Anchor Babies
    Chain Migration
    Amnesty
    DACA
    All freebies of any kind

    None of the above is enough to keep out the disease ridden rapists, murderers , extortionists,
    felons, thieves, terrorists etc, enhanced border security via a wall, and better, more effective
    border patrolling would help.
    We are in agreement, Ender is the one who claims to be able to stop the invasion with out walls or patrols by eliminating all incentives.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  14. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    When you keep saying the same insane thing over and over you will get the same response over and over.


    @Bryan please read this exchange, Zippy is openly advocating against the mission of this site and in favor of tyranny while mocking us and claiming to advocate for freedom. (the "freedom" to engage in tyranny)

    Will you finally have him banned?
    I'm done feeding the trolls, enders zippy and whoever, all they get from me now
    is fo troll.......if even that much, I will not be opening zippy's trolling posts either,
    I wouldn't doubt if he is paid per 'response to his posts' that is the most logical means of
    gauging a trolls effectiveness, imv, I don't believe it is hourly as someone has previously
    suggested.

  15. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    The only way to get rid of all incentives is to either make America into Mexico or make Mexico more like America. So the idea is to make all the Democrats go to Mexico and vote for more government. Send them over to fix Mexico.
    Mexico quite on net sending people several years ago.

    https://www.lbausa.com/article/stati...co-falls-zero/

    Net Migration From Mexico Falls to Zero— and Perhaps Less

    The largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States has come to a standstill. After four decades that brought 12 million current immigrants—most of whom came illegally—the net migration flow from Mexico to the United States has stopped and may have reversed, according to a new analysis of government data from both countries by the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center.

    The standstill appears to be the result of many factors, including the weakened U.S. job and housing construction markets, heightened border enforcement, a rise in deportations, the growing dangers associated with illegal border crossings, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates and broader economic conditions in Mexico.
    The sharp downward trend in net migration from Mexico began about five years ago and has led to the first significant decrease in at least two decades in the unauthorized Mexican population. As of 2011, some 6.1 million unauthorized Mexican immigrants were living in the U.S., down from a peak of nearly 7 million in 2007, according to Pew Hispanic Center estimates based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Over the same period, the population of authorized immigrants from Mexico rose modestly, from 5.6 million in 2007 to 5.8 million in 2011.

    The net standstill in Mexican-U.S. migration flows is the result of two opposite trend lines that have converged in recent years. During the five-year period from 2005 to 2010, a total of 1.4 million Mexicans immigrated to the United States, down by more than half from the 3 million who had done so in the five-year period of 1995 to 2000. Meantime, the number of Mexicans and their children who moved from the U.S. to Mexico between 2005 and 2010 rose to 1.4 million, roughly double the number who had done so in the five-year period a decade before. While it is not possible to say so with certainty, the trend lines within this latest five-year period suggest that return flow to Mexico probably exceeded the inflow from Mexico during the past year or two.
    Article from 2011. More at link.


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  16. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We are in agreement, Ender is the one who claims to be able to stop the invasion with out walls or patrols by eliminating all incentives.
    Yep , neither Ender nor Zippy are here to discuss logic.

    Zipender might even be that same troll, either way IMV, they are both
    worthless troll agitators, they can fo.

  17. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Mexico quite on net sending people several years ago.

    https://www.lbausa.com/article/stati...co-falls-zero/





    Article from 2011. More at link.
    Are the ones here going to want to come home any time soon or are they going to import their families that are starving

  18. #256
    Probably can add nikcers to the same zipendernik list.



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  20. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I'm done feeding the trolls, enders zippy and whoever, all they get from me now
    is fo troll.......if even that much, I will not be opening zippy's trolling posts either,
    I wouldn't doubt if he is paid per 'response to his posts' that is the most logical means of
    gauging a trolls effectiveness, imv, I don't believe it is hourly as someone has previously
    suggested.
    I would do that if the site would implement my suggestion and auto-hide his posts and those of anyone who receives a certain number of red bars from all viewers who don't log in and from anyone who doesn't un-ignore him.

    As it is if we all just ignored him he would be able to influence people who come here to learn about us.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  21. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Probably can add nikcers to the same zipendernik list.
    Trust me I'm already on all the lists

  22. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Mexico quite on net sending people several years ago.

    https://www.lbausa.com/article/stati...co-falls-zero/





    Article from 2011. More at link.
    If we can believe that it doesn't make any difference, they help the invaders from other countries farther south to get here.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  23. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Are the ones here going to want to come home any time soon or are they going to import their families that are starving
    Mexico's economy had improved considerably and the population is starting to age (fewer kids means fewer young people leaving to look for work plus more jobs at home means less incentive to leave looking for it). Some were deported and some went home to be back with families.

    Ironically perhaps tighter border security encouraged more illegal immigrants to come to the US and stay. They used to come, work a few months to earn what they can, and go home and maybe come back again later. When it got harder to cross, those who came stayed and sent money home. Then they started missing their families so they brought more of them up instead of staying in Mexico. Unintended consequences.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 02-11-2019 at 06:28 PM.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  24. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I would do that if the site would implement my suggestion and auto-hide his posts and those of anyone who receives a certain number of red bars from all viewers who don't log in and from anyone who doesn't un-ignore him.

    As it is if we all just ignored him he would be able to influence people who come here to learn about us.
    I scare you. Why? You want 100% control of the forum?


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  25. #262
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I would do that if the site would implement my suggestion and auto-hide his posts and those of anyone who receives a certain number of red bars from all viewers who don't log in and from anyone who doesn't un-ignore him.

    As it is if we all just ignored him he would be able to influence people who come here to learn about us.
    I think we need to 'patrol' and notice when new members are here and watch over them until they
    learn who the trolls are.
    We had a thing on youtube of not feeding trolls, we noticed (my group of friends) that when we
    stopped responding , they dried up, they don't get paid when they are ignored.
    You're right , we need to attract and retain new members if we are to grow, I don't have the
    answers.
    But I'm done imagining that zendernik will ever look to having any rational discussion with anyone here.
    Maybe we should have a feature that allows us to track new members so we can assist them
    till they get a 'lay of the land' .

  26. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If we can believe that it doesn't make any difference, they help the invaders from other countries farther south to get here.
    ''You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.''

  27. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I scare you. Why? You want 100% control of the forum?
    You do not scare me and I don't desire 100% control of the forum but you are a vile liar and your lies must not be allowed to stand unopposed if they are allowed here at all.
    I seek to protect the innocent and ignorant from devils like you.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  29. #265
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Mexico's economy had improved considerably and the population is starting to age (fewer kids means fewer young people leaving to look for work plus more jobs at home means less incentive to leave looking for it). Some were deported and some went home to be back with families.

    Ironically perhaps tighter border security encouraged more illegal immigrants to come to the US and stay. They used to come, work a few months to earn what they can, and go home and maybe come back again later. When it got harder to cross, those who came stayed and sent money home. Then they started missing their families so they brought more of them up instead of staying in Mexico. Unintended consequences.
    We have never had tight enough security to cause that, they stayed because they learned they could bleed us of even more wealth if they did.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #266
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You do not scare me and I don't desire 100% control of the forum but you are a vile liar and your lies must not be allowed to stand unopposed if they are allowed here at all.
    I seek to protect the innocent and ignorant from devils like you.
    I do scare you. You keep suggesting I should be banned. Competing ideas cannot be tolerated I guess. Nobody allowed to challenge the boss.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  31. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    He needs to elaborate, he is the one who claims he can eliminate all incentives even though prosperity is the biggest incentive.
    Your suggestion would seem to be the only way he can do what he claims t o be able to do.....................
    We are not limited in what we can do by the narrow confines of your imagination
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  32. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I do scare you. You keep suggesting I should be banned. Competing ideas cannot be tolerated I guess.
    You do not scare me, lies never scare me, you should be banned because lies should not be tolerated, you go far beyond legitimate differences in opinion.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #269
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    We are not limited in what we can do by the narrow confines of your imagination
    Then you need to enlighten me.

    How are we going to stop the invasion by eliminating incentives without eliminating the prosperity that is the biggest incentive?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    I scare you. Why? You want 100% control of the forum?
    Why does it seem like these two work in the same office?? I think Zippy and SS share a state-sponsored cubicle.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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