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  1. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    My bad I thought you'd be flattered or just admit that you and zippy were the same
    poster, just playing darts,,,,,sorry.
    -
    Ok so, then , mmm, lets see, you didn't call for 'open borders' .
    I didn't call for 'standing armies' , ''now we have something we can agree on''
    How are you going, I mean how in the hell are you going to keep out disease ridden felons, rapists, murderers,
    terrorists, ms13 and drug traffickers merely by cutting all incentives (something I've called for a million times)?
    You can't even keep out the leeches by just eliminating government handouts, they would still come here to partake of our prosperity and then vote for handouts.
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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    ... We have adequate protection. ....
    That is complete blsht zippy.



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  5. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Nobody wants to kill you but if you continue to give aid and comfort to the enemy that wants to kill and enslave us that may change when the collapse comes.

    That sounds very much like a threat. Perhaps you need to step back a bit and compose yourself, before you say something truly unfortunate that gets you into trouble.
    Chris

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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    My bad I thought you'd be flattered or just admit that you and zippy were the same
    poster, just playing darts,,,,,sorry.
    -
    Ok so, then , mmm, lets see, you didn't call for 'open borders' .
    I didn't call for 'standing armies' , ''now we have something we can agree on''
    How are you going, I mean how in the hell are you going to keep out disease ridden felons, rapists, murderers,
    terrorists, ms13 and drug traffickers merely by cutting all incentives (something I've called for a million times)?


    Chart is immigrant border crossing arrests. Down considerably- not a surging crisis. https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01...each-the-mfer/


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  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    WE MUST REPEL THE INVADERS!

    Too late. They're already here.

    ALL THE MORE REASON TO KEEP THEM FROM COMING IN!!!1!!
    We will have a hard enough time expelling them, letting them send for reinforcements would be insane.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    That sounds very much like a threat. Perhaps you need to step back a bit and compose yourself, before you say something truly unfortunate that gets you into trouble.
    That is not a threat, I don't want to kill any Americans if I can keep my freedom without it but there are people who will want to kill those who collaborate with the invaders when the collapse comes.

    If either the invaders or the resistance end up killing you then you can't say you weren't warned.

    Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is treason.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Running out of arguments I see. You keep repeating the same talking points from your guidebook. "Invasion." "Hordes". "commies".
    What argument?

    Clearly, if you allow an invading demographic, hostile your customs, traditions, institutions, values and ideals, to overwhelm and displace you, you will end up a second class citizen in that nation that was once yours.

    Just ask the American Indians.

    There's no argument there, that's a matter of historical fact.

    The only "argument" is between people who see what is front of their eyes, and people that tell them what they are seeing is all wrong, we're reading it all wrong.

    Just like murderous government agents said at Waco: "This is NOT an Assault!!!" as they, assaulted and burned out, shot and killed men, women and children with tanks, snipers and automatic weapons fire.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We will have a hard enough time expelling them, letting them send for reinforcements would be insane.
    If we run around swatting at the reinforcements, we won't have time to deal with the core problem. And if we never deal with the core problem, the core problem will never stop sending for reinforcements.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  11. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You can't even keep out the leeches by just eliminating government handouts, they would still come here to partake of our prosperity and then vote for handouts.
    No you can't , so true.

  12. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post


    Chart is immigrant border crossing arrests. Down considerably- not a surging crisis. https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/01...each-the-mfer/
    lmao
    8 years of 'standing down' under Obama lowered
    border crossing arrests.



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    lmao
    8 years of 'standing down' under Obama lowered
    border crossing arrests.
    Decline started under Bush- not Obama. (actually Obama was tough on the border too- he did not "stand down"). Obama took office in January 2009. And despite higher forces, they have not roared back under Trump.


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    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

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  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If we run around swatting at the reinforcements, we won't have time to deal with the core problem. And if we never deal with the core problem, the core problem will never stop sending for reinforcements.
    We can cut off the reinforcements and deal with the core problem.
    We will lose if we don't stop the reinforcements, we are close to losing because people like you have interfered with our attempts to do either.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Decline started under Bush- not Obama. (actually Obama was tough on the border too- he did not "stand down"). Obama took office in January 2009. And despite higher forces, they have not roared back under Trump.
    Bush was a friend of illegals too.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If we run around swatting at the reinforcements, we won't have time to deal with the core problem. And if we never deal with the core problem, the core problem will never stop sending for reinforcements.
    Your solution?

  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bush was a friend of illegals too.
    He built the most miles of walls.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Decline started under Bush- not Obama. (actually Obama was tough on the border too- he did not "stand down"). Obama took office in January 2009. And despite higher forces, they have not roared back under Trump.
    Great , Bush/Obama ,
    now what zippy/.///

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He built the most miles of walls.
    Obama spent 12 billion in one year on border security , so what zippy.........

  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You can't even keep out the leeches by just eliminating government handouts, they would still come here to partake of our prosperity and then vote for handouts.
    So eliminating the core problem won't work, and eliminating the bait that's luring them won't work, so we prevent the totalitarianism by temporarily setting up a police state, and then resign ourselves to the police state being permanent?

    Is that the jist of your spam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    Your solution?
    Eliminate the bait, fix the core problem, and don't listen to people who want a permanent police state.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 02-11-2019 at 03:55 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us



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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He built the most miles of walls.
    That doesn't change the fact that he tried to keep the Border Patrol from stopping the illegals.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  24. #170
    When you have a nice place, people will want to come here. Want people to not come? Make it into the worst stinkhole. Or move to a deserted island where you can live with only people exactly like yourself.

    The whole issue is to stir up fears to allow for an expansion of government powers.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So eliminating the core problem won't work, and eliminating the bait that's luring them won't work, so we prevent the totalitarianism by temporarily setting up a police state, and then resign ourselves to the police state being permanent?

    Is that the jist of your spam?
    I didn't say any of that.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    When you have a nice place, people will want to come here. Want people to not come? Make it into the worst stinkhole. Or move to a deserted island where you can live with only people exactly like yourself.
    Or we can put up a wall or hire guards.

    Failure to do so will mean that nobody can ever have a nice place, the leeches would follow us to the island.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Irony- Calling for a bigger police state to prevent a bigger police state.
    How does protecting our borders equate to a police state?

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I didn't say any of that.
    You post your spin so fast you don't even have time to go back and see what you said.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Eliminate the bait, fix the core problem, and don't listen to people who want a permanent police state.
    Do you propose to eliminate prosperity?
    How do you propose to fix the core problem? (especially if the enemy is allowed to import as many reinforcements as they want)
    Nobody wants a permanent police state.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  30. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    So eliminating the core problem won't work, and eliminating the bait that's luring them won't work, so we prevent the totalitarianism by temporarily setting up a police state, and then resign ourselves to the police state being permanent?

    Is that the jist of your spam?



    Eliminate the bait, fix the core problem, and don't listen to people who want a permanent police state.
    That's not a solution , why not let us in on your solution, it might be helpful.



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  32. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You post your spin so fast you don't even have time to go back and see what you said.
    I know exactly what I said and it wasn't any of that.

    You are either a deliberate liar or you are so crazy that you see things that aren't there.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  33. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    How does protecting our borders equate to a police state?
    Border Patrol is a police force. They are part of the police state. And they don't just work at the border. Then can have checkpoints as far as 200 miles inland. They also check transportation- train, bus, airports. They can randomly stop and search people- including US citizens. Those guys groping you at the airport? They also work for Homeland Security. Gotta protect you from them ferriners! It's for your own good.


    Donald Trump: 'What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'

    "Truth isn't truth"- Rudy Giuliani

    "China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump's very, very large brain," - Donald Trump.

    "Yeah, I have to say these guys(trolls) are pretty sharp. Sort of good to get a challenge and sharpen your thoughts." NorthCarolinaLiberty

    I am Zippy and I approve of this post. But you don't have to.

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Border Patrol is a police force. They are part of the police state. And they don't just work at the border. Then can have checkpoints as far as 200 miles inland. They also check transportation- train, bus, airports. They can randomly stop and search people. Those guys groping you at the airport? They also work for Homeland Security.
    This has nothing at all to do with your statement, and my response;
    -
    Originally Posted by Zippyjuan Irony- Calling for a bigger police state to prevent a bigger police state.
    -

    How does protecting our borders equate to a police state?

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Do you propose to eliminate prosperity?
    How do you propose to fix the core problem? (especially if the enemy is allowed to import as many reinforcements as they want)
    Nobody wants a permanent police state.
    Prosperity? You're against prosperity?

    If we had true prosperity, nobody would be worried about immigrants undercutting their wages.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

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