Gallup: Five Million Latin Americans Coming to U.S. in Next 12 Months

[Swordsmyth]

Five million Latin Americans plan to migrate to the United States in the next 12 months, and an estimated 42 million more say they want to enter the country.

Those statistics were in a report from Jim Clifton, the chairman and CEO at Gallup:

Forty-two million seekers of citizenship or asylum are watching to determine exactly when and how is the best time to make the move. This suggests that open borders could potentially attract 42 million Latin Americans. A full 5 million who are planning to move in the next 12 months say they are moving to the U.S.

The poll came as Democrats began using their new political clout to try to widen the catch-and-release loopholes in President Donald Trump’s border defenses.
Breitbart News reported:

Democrats say the DHS does not need so many detention beds but instead can release and track migrants or resident illegals by using “Alternatives to Detention,” such as monitors strapped to migrants’ ankles.
Democrats also argue that migrants who bring children should not be detained. If that rule is adopted by Congress, all migrants who bring children to the border would be quickly released into the U.S. jobs market.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) spokeswoman Katie Waldman rejected the Democrats’ proposals, saying in a statement:

Without the necessary detention authority and sufficient funding for family beds to enable ICE to detain family units when they are ordered removed, ICE will still only be able to remove a very small percentage of family units, thereby increasing the pull factors and further contributing to the border crisis. For example last year, only one percent of all removals were on ATD, at a cost of $72,000 per removal.

“Most U.S. citizens like me just want to know the plan,” Clifton concluded. “What is the 10-year plan? How many, exactly whom and what skills will they bring? What do we want? Answer these questions, and the current discussion can be resolved.”

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ext-12-months/


Is it an invasion yet?

[Warlord]

the president has the constitutional authority to repel invasions...

[invisible]

Is it an invasion yet?

No, that's only what those in power would like everyone to think, and the racists are only their useful idiots.

[phill4paul]

No, that's only what those in power would like everyone to think, and the racists are only their useful idiots.

I don't care what race they are, adding 5 million impoverished families of any nationality/race, is not a good idea in anyone's book. Except perhaps socialists and libertarians.

[Slave Mentality]

No, that's only what those in power would like everyone to think, and the racists are only their useful idiots.

Word.

[Schifference]

Would be better for rich liberal US people to go there and gentrify the area. Make it prosperous. Provide jobs and amenities so people would want to stay and live there.

[Stratovarious]

I don't care what race they are, adding 5 million impoverished families of any nationality/race, is not a good idea in anyone's book. Except perhaps socialists and libertarians.

What libertarians?

[acptulsa]

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/246563/million-border.aspx?g_source=link_NEWSV9&g_medium=TOPIC&g_ campaign=item_&g_content=What%2520If%2520There%252 0Were%252042%2520Million%2520at%2520the%2520Border %3f"

Gallup asked the whole population of Latin America. There are 33 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean. Roughly 450 million adults live in the region. Gallup asked them...

Why is Gallup implying they asked all 450 million of them? Just getting a random sample in each and every remote Andean village would be a logistical nightmare that I sincerely doubt Gallup is capable of conquering.

"Would you like to move to another country permanently if you could?"

A whopping 27% said "yes."

I'll bet at least forty percent of U.S. residents would buy a Bentley if they could. Should Bentley gear up to produce eighty million cars next year?

So this means roughly 120 million would like to migrate somewhere.

The next question Gallup asked was, "Where would you like to move?"

Of those who want to leave their Latin American country permanently, 35% said they want to go to the United States.

And triggered Swordshyll's cardiac arrest. Hope you have good insurance!

Yo, Swordshyll. Slight detail of logic that breitbart the MSM Fakenews Outlet didn't mention: Would like to =/= will do.

[juleswin]

Why is Gallup implying they asked all 450 million of them? Just getting a random sample in each and every remote Andean village would be a logistical nightmare that I sincerely doubt Gallup is capable of conquering.



I'll bet at least forty percent of U.S. residents would buy a Bentley if they could. Should Bentley gear up to produce eighty million cars next year?



And triggered Swordshyll's cardiac arrest. Hope you have good insurance!

Yo, Swordshyll. Slight detail of logic that breitbart the MSM Fakenews Outlet didn't mention: Would like to =/= will do.

Dailycaller, dailymail, dailyxxx, infowars, breitbart all deal in red meat sensational news stories that get people all hot and bothered. This thread would have gone to 4 + pages iin no time without this post. Breitbart probably understood what the survey meant but they came out with the headline anyway.

Good job breaking down the poll data.

[CCTelander]

Why is Gallup implying they asked all 450 million of them? Just getting a random sample in each and every remote Andean village would be a logistical nightmare that I sincerely doubt Gallup is capable of conquering.



I'll bet at least forty percent of U.S. residents would buy a Bentley if they could. Should Bentley gear up to produce eighty million cars next year?



And triggered Swordshyll's cardiac arrest. Hope you have good insurance!

Yo, Swordshyll. Slight detail of logic that breitbart the MSM Fakenews Outlet didn't mention: Would like to =/= will do.

But you don't understand. It's an "INVASION!" (Gotta keep misusing those militaristic terms so as to keep the levels of agitation and fear high.) these "invaders" are launching an all out assault on "our," well, everything! Loathe and fear them or we're doomed!

The divisive wedge driving and flagrant fear mongering on this site has gotten WAY out of hand.

[Anti Federalist]

No, that's only what those in power would like everyone to think, and the racists are only their useful idiots.

Bull$#@!.

[Anti Federalist]

I don't care what race they are, adding 5 million impoverished families of any nationality/race, is not a good idea in anyone's book. Except perhaps socialists and libertarians.

Of course it isn't.

We get preached at constantly about "falling for what the powers that be want".

One has to wonder what the ulterior motives are of those who find nothing at all wrong with this.

[Anti Federalist]

So, this woman is in the vanguard of the invaders.

She says we are right to be afraid of her and her kind.

Why?

I'm being told I'm a racist, fascist, freedom hating, forum wrecking, scumbag because I don't want New England (or the rest of the country for that matter, although many places are too far gone) to become New Ghana or New Honduras.

So, change my mind.

Why is this Velazquez broad full of $#@!? (A member of Congress by the way. What do you supposes the reaction would be if a white congresscritter said that?)

Why is she lying?

Why do I have have nothing to fear from her and her kind that she claims to be speaking for by saying "us"?

[Pauls' Revere]

Besides, the millions were sending to strengthen the economy and border in Southern Mexico will deter all this.

[Slave Mentality]

So, this woman is in the vanguard of the invaders.

She says we are right to be afraid of her and her kind.

Why?

I'm being told I'm a racist, fascist, freedom hating, forum wrecking, scumbag because I don't want New England (or the rest of the country for that matter, although many places are too far gone) to become New Ghana or New Honduras.

So, change my mind.

Why is this Velazquez broad full of $#@!? (A member of Congress by the way. What do you supposes the reaction would be if a white congresscritter said that?)

Why is she lying?

Why do I have have nothing to fear from her and her kind that she claims to be speaking for by saying "us"?

Take solice in the universal truth that the entirety of the universe is constantly finding balace. The same laws of physics applies to our existence on this planet.

It could not exist if it was not perfect and balanced. It would have ended a long time ago if not.

Time to reach beyond these constructs being built to control us. Step outside your mind to see the truth.

Fear nothing.

It's not what you look at that matters; it's what you see. - Henry David Thoreau

[phill4paul]

Take solice in the universal truth that the entirety of the universe is constantly finding balace. The same laws of physics applies to our existence on this planet.

It could not exist if it was not perfect and balanced. It would have ended a long time ago if not.

Time to reach beyond these constructs being built to control us. Step outside your mind to see the truth.

Fear nothing.

It's not what you look at that matters; it's what you see. - Henry David Thoreau

I don't think Thoreau ever lived through a pogrom, or died because of one, before "balance" was restored.

[Swordsmyth]

No, that's only what those in power would like everyone to think, and the racists are only their useful idiots.

It is an invasion, this is exactly how ancient tribes used to invade eachother, they just move themselves and their families into the territory and started using the resources of the other tribe.

[Swordsmyth]

Take solice in the universal truth that the entirety of the universe is constantly finding balace. The same laws of physics applies to our existence on this planet.

It could not exist if it was not perfect and balanced. It would have ended a long time ago if not.

Time to reach beyond these constructs being built to control us. Step outside your mind to see the truth.

Fear nothing.

It's not what you look at that matters; it's what you see. - Henry David Thoreau

You can contemplate your navel while hostile foreigners impose tyranny and begin genocide against your neighbors, friends and family if you want but they will come for you too in the end.

[Swordsmyth]

Take solice in the universal truth that the entirety of the universe is constantly finding balace. The same laws of physics applies to our existence on this planet.

It could not exist if it was not perfect and balanced. It would have ended a long time ago if not.

Time to reach beyond these constructs being built to control us. Step outside your mind to see the truth.

Fear nothing.

It's not what you look at that matters; it's what you see. - Henry David Thoreau

Maybe you should try telling that to the people of the countries the US has invaded?

[Superfluous Man]

“Most U.S. citizens like me just want to know the plan,” Clifton concluded. “What is the 10-year plan? How many, exactly whom and what skills will they bring? What do we want? Answer these questions, and the current discussion can be resolved.”

Clifton said the magic word. Plan.

Sadly, he's right. Most Americans, like him, really do want central planners to decide for the nation what economic interactions are to transpire here, rather than trusting such things to the free market. They honestly believe that questions like the ones he asks about such things as what skill sets people have, are the government's business.

[Swordsmyth]

Clifton said the magic word. Plan.

Sadly, he's right. Most Americans, like him, really do want central planners to decide for the nation what economic interactions are to transpire here, rather than trusting such things to the free market. They honestly believe that questions like the ones he asks about such things as what skill sets people have, are the government's business.

Immigration is NOT a free market issue, it can't be as long as most people and cultures don't believe in liberty.

That would be like having a free market in crime.

[fedupinmo]

No, that's only what those in power would like everyone to think, and the racists are only their useful idiots.

And yet, when they show up and vote illegally for socialists, slanting our political system away from liberty, shall we all celebrate our own demise just so we can avoid accusations of racism?

[Superfluous Man]

Immigration is NOT a free market issue, it can't be as long as most people and cultures don't believe in liberty.

That would be like having a free market in crime.

So you agree with me that the government shouldn't concern itself with what skill sets any would-be immigrants have, like Clifton wants it to do?

[Swordsmyth]

So you agree with me that the government shouldn't concern itself with what skill sets any would-be immigrants have, like Clifton wants it to do?

Since we have to control immigration anyway then there is no reason not to give preference to those who will be of a greater benefit to our society from among those that apply.

[Swordsmyth]

And yet, when they show up and vote illegally for socialists, slanting our political system away from liberty, shall we all celebrate our own demise just so we can avoid accusations of racism?

We should celebrate their liberty to tyrannize us.

[Superfluous Man]

Since we have to control immigration anyway then there is no reason not to give preference to those who will be of a greater benefit to our society from among those that apply.

And who's job is it to decide what constitutes a benefit and measure that for us?

[Swordsmyth]

And who's job is it to decide what constitutes a benefit and measure that for us?

Our elected representatives.

[Superfluous Man]

Our elected representatives.

If you believe they can do that, then it was disingenuous for you to pretend you have any interest at all in free markets.

[Swordsmyth]

If you believe they can do that, then it was disingenuous for you to pretend you have any interest at all in free markets.

I have no interest in a free market in immigration, I never said I did.

[Superfluous Man]

So, this woman is in the vanguard of the invaders.

She says we are right to be afraid of her and her kind.

Why?

I'm being told I'm a racist, fascist, freedom hating, forum wrecking, scumbag because I don't want New England (or the rest of the country for that matter, although many places are too far gone) to become New Ghana or New Honduras.

So, change my mind.

Why is this Velazquez broad full of $#@!? (A member of Congress by the way. What do you supposes the reaction would be if a white congresscritter said that?)

Why is she lying?

Why do I have have nothing to fear from her and her kind that she claims to be speaking for by saying "us"?

Which of these is your position?
a) We should only prevent those who, like her, think we should fear them and their kind, from entering the USA. But those who do not think like that should be allowed to enter, in which case, their being from Latin America should not even be considered among the criteria of allowing them to enter.
b) We should exclude all of them, whether they agree with her or not, in which case, holding that belief really has nothing to do with it.
c) We should exclude all of them, because they're all the same. They are not individuals, but a collective, and she speaks for all of them. To be a person who wants to immigrate to the USA from Latin America is to be a person who thinks we should fear them.