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    AoC: US is Native Land for ALL LATINOS




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    I do not think she is even a real latina .
    Do something Danke

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    This lady has no clue what the hell shes talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    This lady has no clue what the hell shes talking about.
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    She is turning into a real disaster for the Demoncrats.
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    We don’t have the full context, but it sounds pretty ignorant. Native Americans may be surprised to find that they are now “Latino”.

    It seems like AOC has been listening to Aztlan and reconquista propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    We don’t have the full context, but it sounds pretty ignorant. Native Americans may be surprised to find that they are now “Latino”.

    It seems like AOC has been listening to Aztlan and reconquista propaganda.
    “We have to have … respect for the right of human mobility,” Ocasio-Cortez told a press conference on Capitol Hill.

    She continued, “It is a right. We are standing on native land, and Latino people are descendants of native people. We cannot be told and criminalized simply for our identity or our status.”



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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    “We have to have … respect for the right of human mobility,” Ocasio-Cortez told a press conference on Capitol Hill.

    She continued, “It is a right. We are standing on native land, and Latino people are descendants of native people. We cannot be told and criminalized simply for our identity or our status.”


    Bullsh!t... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquistador

    They are of European decent.

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    Having been mocked by her own leadership (and much of social media) Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) - the little socialist that could - faces the final condemnation tonight as The Wall Street Journal surveyed the Bronx Congresswoman's "Green New Deal" resolution... and was left in hysterics, with Kimberley Strassel tweeting:
    "By the end of the Green New Deal resolution (and accompanying fact sheet) I was laughing so hard I nearly cried. If a bunch of GOPers plotted to forge a fake Democratic bill showing how bonkers the party is, they could not have done a better job. It is beautiful. "
    Leaving the outspoken reporter with only one conclusion:
    " The Republican Party has a secret weapon for 2020. It’s especially effective because it’s stealthy: The Democrats seem oblivious to its power. And the GOP needn’t lift a finger for it to work.
    All Republicans have to do is sit back and watch 29-year-old Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez . . . exist."


    And while we already highlighted the most shocking proposals from the "Green New Deal," we leave it to Strassel to destroy it line by line...
    AOC, as she’s better known, today exists largely in front of the cameras. In a few months she’s gone from an unknown New York bartender to the democratic socialist darling of the left and its media hordes. Her megaphone is so loud that she rivals Speaker Nancy Pelosi as the face of the Democratic Party. Republicans don’t know whether to applaud or laugh. Most do both.
    For them, what’s not to love? She’s set off a fratricidal war on the left, with her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, this week slamming the “radical conservatives” among the Democrats holding the party “hostage.” She’s made friends with Jeremy Corbyn, leader of Britain’s Labour Party, who has been accused of anti-Semitism. She’s called the American system of wealth creation “immoral” and believes government has a duty to provide “economic security” to people who are “unwilling to work.” As a representative of New York, she’s making California look sensible.
    On Thursday Ms. Ocasio-Cortez unveiled her vaunted Green New Deal, complete with the details of how Democrats plan to reach climate nirvana in a mere 10 years. It came in the form of a resolution, sponsored in the Senate by Massachusetts’ Edward Markey, on which AOC is determined to force a full House vote. That means every Democrat in Washington will get to go on the record in favor of abolishing air travel, outlawing steaks, forcing all American homeowners to retrofit their houses, putting every miner, oil rigger, livestock rancher and gas-station attendant out of a job, and spending trillions and trillions more tax money. Oh, also for government-run health care, which is somehow a prerequisite for a clean economy.
    It’s a GOP dream, especially because the media presented her plan with a straight face - as a legitimate proposal from a legitimate leader in the Democratic Party. Republicans are thrilled to treat it that way in the march to 2020, as their set-piece example of what Democrats would do to the economy and average Americans if given control. The Green New Deal encapsulates everything Americans fear from government, all in one bonkers resolution.

    It is for starters, a massive plan for the government to take over and micromanage much the economy. Take the central plank, its diktat of producing 100% of U.S. electricity “through clean, renewable, and zero-emission energy sources” by 2030. As Ron Bailey at Reason has noted, a 2015 plan from Stanford envisioning the goal called for the installation of 154,000 offshore wind turbines, 335,000 onshore wind turbines, 75 million residential photovoltaic (solar) systems, 2.75 million commercial solar systems, and 46,000 utility-scale solar facilities. AOC has been clear it will be government building all this, not the private sector.
    And that might be the easy part. According to an accompanying fact sheet, the Green New Deal would also get rid of combustion engines, “build charging stations everywhere,” “upgrade or replace every building in U.S.,” do the same with all “infrastructure,” and crisscross the nation with “high-speed rail.”
    Buried in the details, the Green New Deal also promises government control of the most fundamental aspects of private life. The fact sheet explains why the resolution doesn’t call for “banning fossil fuels” or for “zero” emissions across the entire economy—at least at first. It’s because “we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast” (emphasis mine).
    This is an acknowledgment that planes don’t run on anything but fossil fuel. No jet fuel, no trips to see granny. It’s also an acknowledgment that livestock produce methane, which has led climate alarmists to engage in “meatless Mondays.” AOC may not prove able to eradicate “fully” every family Christmas or strip of bacon in a decade, but that’s the goal.
    Finally, there is the one little problem of how to pay for all this 'free $#@!' - never you mind says AOC, that's what taxes-on-the-rich and a printing press are for...
    ...the resolution is Democratic math at its best. It leaves out a price tag, and is equally vague on what kind of taxes would be needed to cover the cost. But it would run to tens of trillions of dollars. The fact sheet asserts the cost shouldn’t worry anyone, since the Federal Reserve can just “extend credit” to these projects! And “new public banks can be created to extend credit,” too! And Americans will get lots of “shared prosperity” from their “investments.” Ŕ la Solyndra.
    At least some Democrats seem to be aware of what a danger this is, which is why Ms. Pelosi threw some cold water on the Green New Deal this week. They should be scared. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is a freight train gaining speed by the day—and helping Republicans with every passing minute.


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    She probably took some Chicano Studies in college.

    A lot of Mexicans have a strong Native American cultural and ethnic background. Chicano Studies promotes the idea that Mexicans should celebrate their Native American heritage.


    The Plan de Santa Barbara is generally considered to be the manifesto of Chicano studies.[10] Drafted in 1969 at the University of California, Santa Barbara, the plan emphasizes the need for education, and especially higher education to enact Chicano community empowerment.[12] The Plan helped to "establish Chicano studies as an entity incorporated into the structures of academia."[12] However, while the Plan articulated a need for education, it did not specify how to create a program of study.[10] The Plan did, however, lead to the creation of the Chicano Studies Institute in 1969.[13] Another important document in Chicano studies was also produced in 1969. In March of that year, the Chicano Youth Conference held in Denver produced a plan written by Chicano poet, Alurista.[9] It was called El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán (The Spiritual Plan of Aztlán) and it contains a concept of "ethnic nationalism and self-determination."[9] The idea of the mythic homeland of the Aztec people, Aztlán, is one that unifies the United States and Mexico and correspondingly, united Mexican Americans with a sense of nationalism.[14]



    In 1970, a major Chicano journal began to be published at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA).[15] The journal was called Aztlán: A Journal of Chicano Studies and it was created at first by the students.[15] The journal, Aztlán, had a big influence on the discourse surrounding Chicano studies and helped "establish and legitimize" the subject in colleges and universities.[15] The name of the journal came directly from El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán and under the direction of the historian Juan Gomez-Quińones, the journal supported and sustained a culture of activism.[14] Chicano scholars in 1970 also wrote papers for the Chicano Studies Institute which were later published in the journal, Epoca.[10] These papers addressed topics such as Chicano curriculum, goals of the educational program and how to achieve academic recognition.[10]
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    she skipped the whole Conquistador thing...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    she skipped the whole Conquistador thing...

    Can you prove she is related to any of them, though?? I mean, it's not like her last name is Cortez or anything..

    Oh wait..

    https://www.livescience.com/39238-he...he-aztecs.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Can you prove she is related to any of them, though?? I mean, it's not like her last name is Cortez or anything..

    Oh wait..

    https://www.livescience.com/39238-he...he-aztecs.html
    We can say that her ancestors raped, murdered, enslaved and conquered the Natives



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    [INDENT] AOC, as she’s better known, today exists largely in front of the cameras. In a few months she’s gone from an unknown New York bartender to the democratic socialist darling of the left and its media hordes. Her megaphone is so loud that she rivals Speaker Nancy Pelosi as the face of the Democratic Party. Republicans don’t know whether to applaud or laugh. Most do both.
    On Thursday Ms. Ocasio-Cortez unveiled her vaunted Green New Deal, complete with the details of how Democrats plan to reach climate nirvana in a mere 10 years. It came in the form of a resolution, sponsored in the Senate by Massachusetts’ Edward Markey, on which AOC is determined to force a full House vote. That means every Democrat in Washington will get to go on the record in favor of abolishing air travel, outlawing steaks, forcing all American homeowners to retrofit their houses, putting every miner, oil rigger, livestock rancher and gas-station attendant out of a job, and spending trillions and trillions more tax money. Oh, also for government-run health care, which is somehow a prerequisite for a clean economy.

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...et-weapon-2020
    How is it that this person that is new to the game is able to get full house votes on idiotic legislation when people like Thomas Massie cannot even get a bill brought before congress?

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    Group Psychology.

    This is Mass Rationalization. That gets people to think it is acceptable to take someone elses property without compensation. Then Group Think Psychology takes over where they have absolved themselves of the wrongdoing of theft of the land of others. Literal Brainwashing.
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    Wow. This is the first time I actually read up on the Green Deal. I thought it was simply a silly pipe dream and dismissed it. After reading through bits of it, this is the same insanity that the Bolsheviks wrought on Russia early in the last century. This is no laughing matter.

    Read up on the Holodomor and how the Soviets told farmers how to grow crops and the millions who subsequently died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    YeS, I would think this clears up any cloudy assumptions about La Raza;
    'Are Land'

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    I've had some Indian/Tribal friends tell me that there is a massive
    Mexican integration into the tribes, might as well import all of Mexico,
    and Latin America into America's reservations, on the back of taxpayers.

    No one has to work again, unless you are of European dissent, light skinned.

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    I believe Occasional Cortez is ready to start her own utopia,
    a Shangri-La for her abused and down trodden masses,
    China has millions of empty square miles just screaming / reaching out to her.

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    The Articles of Confederation say what?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    She probably took some Chicano Studies in college.

    A lot of Mexicans have a strong Native American cultural and ethnic background. Chicano Studies promotes the idea that Mexicans should celebrate their Native American heritage.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicana/o_studies
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratovarious View Post
    I've had some Indian/Tribal friends tell me that there is a massive
    Mexican integration into the tribes, might as well import all of Mexico,
    and Latin America into America's reservations, on the back of taxpayers.

    No one has to work again, unless you are of European dissent, light skinned.
    They are playing word games. What is “Native American”? So if someone is born in Washington State in “America”, they are entitled to land in Argentina, “America”?

    The area that compromises California was first populated by North Americans natives, then Spanish missionaries and Spanish settlers. San Diego was established by the Spanish ~1769. The mixing of Spanish and native North Americans called themselves Californios. They were not Mexican, and never considered themselves Mexicans. They were not the same as the native inhabitants of Mexico (Aztec).

    People from south of the border that migrated here in the past 100 years are simply immigrants, just like any other immigrants. They don’t have any special claim to California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Wow. This is the first time I actually read up on the Green Deal. I thought it was simply a silly pipe dream and dismissed it. After reading through bits of it, this is the same insanity that the Bolsheviks wrought on Russia early in the last century. This is no laughing matter.

    Read up on the Holodomor and how the Soviets told farmers how to grow crops and the millions who subsequently died.
    I won't say you're wrong, but I would say she's closer to Nongqawuse than the Soviets. Deluded fantasies about a bright and wealthier future if you destroy the wealth you have now.



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    Didn’t Ocasio-Cortez claim that she is Jewish? Will she be claiming Jerusalem next?


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    Not so fast. Here's the dig. Her friends 'socialized' everything, so her claim is rendered null and void.

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    Latinos like Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese, & Greeks? What, no love for the Nordics, Slavs, and Celts?

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