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    US plan for Latin America: ‘Venezuela is just the beginning’ – Daniel McAdams

    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”



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    That's not the surprising thing. The surprising thing is, both conservatives and liberals consider violent intervention "principled", and treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".
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    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's not the surprising thing. The surprising thing is, both conservatives and liberals consider violent intervention "principled", and treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".
    Yep.

    I think it's time for everyone to read (or reread) Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins. Shows you exactly what's going on- and who and why.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    That's not the surprising thing. The surprising thing is, both conservatives and liberals consider violent intervention "principled", and treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".
    Governments have natural rights? And those rights supersede the rights of the individuals?
    *******

    Anti-vaxxers, responsible for a 30 percent uptick in totally preventable diseases in the world, have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be considered civilized members of society. If they refuse to listen to a century of scientific studies confirming time and time again that vaccination is an unquestionable good for humanity, then it's time for us to start treating anti-vaxxers as what they are: dangerous and worthy of shame and condemnation. If we can't convince anti-vaxxers to change their minds, we must attach enough social stigma to the delusion that agnostics cease to join them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Governments have natural rights? And those rights supersede the rights of the individuals?
    Is this a rhetorical segue into an argument that an official Venezualeans installed is less legitimate than an official picked out for them by Washington, D.C?
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    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Is this a rhetorical segue into an argument that an official Venezualeans installed is less legitimate than an official picked out for them by Washington, D.C?
    Is answering a question with a question a tool to deflect on the earlier statement?
    ...treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".
    It's actually an interesting theory: Do governments have natural rights? Are we indeed born into a social contract, then, where our individual natural rights are contingent on and secondary to the natural rights of the government?
    *******

    Anti-vaxxers, responsible for a 30 percent uptick in totally preventable diseases in the world, have blood on their hands. They shouldn't be considered civilized members of society. If they refuse to listen to a century of scientific studies confirming time and time again that vaccination is an unquestionable good for humanity, then it's time for us to start treating anti-vaxxers as what they are: dangerous and worthy of shame and condemnation. If we can't convince anti-vaxxers to change their minds, we must attach enough social stigma to the delusion that agnostics cease to join them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Is answering a question with a question a tool to deflect on the earlier statement?
    I suppose it could be. But then again...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmund Freud
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    There's not a liberty lover on the planet who isn't called a liberal by the right, and a con by the left.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Only Q or a civil war will save us



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